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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? |
| Date | 2016-01-16 00:18 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <dseomc-ahl.ln1@mail.specsol.com> (permalink) |
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R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote: > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: >> Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? > ... > > There's certainly some evidence for this. > > We have reasonable estimates of human populations from 0-2000ad for example > and we can compare that against the proxy global temps from the Vostok ice cores. > > The table that my database spits out is: > > Year pop bn Vostok delaTS (C) > 1102 0.3226 -0.78 > 1069 0.32775 -0.78 > 1038 0.3355 -0.17 > 1006 0.3435 -0.25 > 1133 0.3629 -0.17 > 1398 0.3763 -1.61 > 1162 0.4006 -0.1 > 1369 0.40965 -0.9 > 1255 0.4176 -1.23 > 1427 0.41882 -1.39 > 1285 0.4272 -0.18 > 1224 0.43368 -1.54 > 1313 0.435575 -0.02 > 1193 0.4409 -0.85 > 1341 0.44185 -0.6 > 1455 0.4653 -1.08 > 1481 0.50846 -0.08 > 1506 0.54234 0.18 > 1623 0.54772 -0.22 > 1530 0.5517 0.35 > 1599 0.56336 -0.48 > 1553 0.56925 0.23 > 1575 0.57861 -0.75 > 1646 0.59592 -0.75 > 1669 0.65756 -1.09 > 1692 0.89896 -0.95 > 1716 0.9938 0.36 > 1739 1.0594 0.02 > 1760 1.13054 -0.81 > 1780 1.24134 0 > 1801 1.3466 0 > > > And a TS-sensitive regression finds the model > > deltaTS = 0.596689*pop - 0.853777 > where Pr(beta)>0 is 95.0243% > Spearman corr = .32379 (> 5% 2-sided crit val .306) > > So there is some prima facie evidence that temps at > Vostok (several km up and near the S pole) were rising > about .6C per billion human population between ~1000ad and ~1850ad. > > Because warming tends at the S Pole may not be numerically > very close to the global avgerate temperature or warming in > any temperate region we can check the Vostok result with another > model. I.e. the world population against the long-running Central > England Temperature record. > > When we do that (much bigger overlap since CET runs 1659- ; so I > won't list the raw data) we get the model > > CET = 0.381433*pop + 8.68655 > Pr(beta>0) = 98.68% > (beta 95% confidence interval .045 to .717 ) > (Spearman corr fails) > > Which is remarkably similar to the prev value despite CET being > an actual avg temp in deg C and deltaTS being a proxy and as > at a location that varies from -50C to 0C each year. It is far more probable that a warming Earth allowed for increased population than it is an increased population warmed the Earth. 99% of convicted murders ate potatoes within a week of commiting their crime, therefor eating potatoes causes murder. -- Jim Pennino
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Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 22:19 -0600
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-14 04:59 +0000
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 13:58 -0800
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-15 16:04 -0600
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-01-15 22:35 +0000
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-16 00:18 +0000
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 18:36 -0600
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-16 01:39 +0000
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 22:23 -0600
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-16 07:01 +0000
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 10:03 -0800
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 14:07 -0500
Re: Did Early Agricultural CO2 Save Earth From An Ice Age? jc_lavau <NolavauSpamjac@cleube-internet.effer> - 2016-01-27 08:59 +0100
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