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Re: Today's Presidential Debate.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Today's Presidential Debate.
Date 2016-09-29 21:04 -0700
Message-ID <D4133244.7EEB5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 9/29/16, 8:45 PM, in article nskn4e$qag$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:

... 
>>>>>> He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities
>>>>>> to make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on
>>>>>> emotion over logic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> LOL!!!  Trump is a leader, else he wouldn't have come this far.
>>>> 
>>>> He is able to get emotion-based people to get excited. OK.
>>> 
>>> Guffaw!!!  As I've stated before, people are just sick and tired of the
>>> same old garbage day after day.
>>> All people are emotional, so using the excuse that he is emotional is a
>>> rather goofy left-wing playbook nonsense, just like politically correct
>>> speech.  Do you want a Robot for president then?
>> 
>> None of that is even relevant to what I said.
> 
> It is very relevant to this country.

So you want to change topics to what you think is relevant to the country.
LOL! OK, I think we can accept that as you folding on the initial topic.

Trump is good at getting some people who use emotion over reasoning to get
excited. That is not something you even wish to deny any more.

> That's why the L.A. Times poll shows him way ahead of Hillary as
> compared to the bogus CNN poll.

So you found two polls and based on your emotion you accept one and reject
the other. OK.

> There are other polls as well showing him way ahead.

Support?

> Now look at BuzzFeed where they have their poll on who won the 1st
> debate.   97% out of 11.5 million votes to Trump... 1% other
> candidate... 1% to undecided ... and 1% to Hillary, which came in last.
> And BuzzFeed is usually a liberal site.

How about finding an authoritative site... or, you know, actually watching
the debate.

> 
>> 
>>>>>>>> He is an emotional child.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So you think.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The evidence backs this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What evidence?
>>>>> You are now running in circles here.
>>>> 
>>>> I already showed you where he speaks at the level of a 4th grader... and
>>>> where he has no real substance. What else do you need?
>>> 
>>> The hard facts, which you haven't given me yet.
>> 
>> LOL! Keep in mind you deem direct quotes and video -- and NOT of some
>> one-off comment or mis-statement -- as liberal lies.
>> 
>> When you insist facts are lies we are not even starting from the same place
>> to try to have a discussion.
> 
> They aren't facts... they're distortions.

Sure: most of the videos of Trump are filled with his distortions... but to
blame those who quote him and show him, as you are, is silly.

>> Maybe we can try again: will you accept direct proof as something other than
>> lies? If so then we can move forward... if not I think there is little value
>> to these rather lengthy posts we share.
> 
> You'll never find any real truth out there from any website.

Keep in mind we are talking direct proof based on videos of him... from
debates and other very public places.

And you just deny this.

> You won't believe what Alex Jones says, so why should I believe in your
> choice of sites?

LOL! I do not accept the WORDS of a conspiracy theorist blogger so you
should not accept direct proof.

No offense but at this point you have to be kidding, right?
 
...
>> Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and videos... and
>> NOT of one-off comments or misstatements (everyone makes those). You deem
>> those as something other than what they are. At that point you are simply
>> insisting on denying reality.
> 
> Your proved facts are nothing more than left-wing distorted or reversed
> in favor of Hillary.

So FACTS... absolute, unequivocal facts... you deem to be left-wing
distortions.

Again: once you insist that the world is "distorted" to not fit... um, what
you want to be real??? or whatever what are we even discussing? Your
fantasies? 

>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy world where
>> facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be said.
>> 
> It seems you have that a bit backward.

Again: keep in mind I am speaking of direct videos and not even of one-off
comments but of major talking points... and of Trump's direct Twitter
feed... things like this. Absolute facts. Unimpeachable truth.

And you deem truth to be left-wing.

OK. Reality is left-wing and conservatives tend to deny reality. I accept
your stance there.



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