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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Today's Presidential Debate. |
| Date | 2016-09-28 13:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D41179F1.7EC5E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 9/28/16, 1:11 PM, in article nsh84k$sbv$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
> On 09/28/2016 12:13 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 9/28/16, 10:15 AM, in article nsgtrq$i38$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>>> Trump is an emotional child who jumps at the slightest provocation. He
>>>> wanted to attack people for name calling. He would lead to massive war.
>>>
>>> Not true at all.
>>> It was Clintons' lies he is telling to the public is all.
>>> So that makes him an emotional child??
>>>
>>> I don't think so.
>>
>> OK, I decided to do a search for examples... easy to find:
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/yknUyvc8oYk>
>>
>> We can attack the source... but listen to his actual words. And they are
>> exactly right: he is a salesman and it is easy to fall for it if you do not
>> think.
>
> I have. Remember when Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky hearings,
> where he said "It depends on what you mean by is."
At least with the Clintons they are god liars. Trump is not even that. Well,
not sure being a good liar is a quality I want in a leader either.
Sigh.
>> I think we can question if they unfairly selected his comments, but really,
>> pretty much any time you hear him speak it is the same thing.
>
> And Hillary won't comment on it either, because in this instance she
> lied thru omission.
She does that a LOT. A whole lot. Through omission and innuendo and more.
This is going to be used by those who troll but she DOES lie in ways that
are hard to quote... so some of her supporters think she is honest.
Trump does not even do that... he just flat out lies.
>>>> So will Clinton.
>>>
>>> She will and she has no limitations watching a lot of people get killed.
>>> She reminds me of a serial killer.
>>
>> I do not like her but I am not as tied to emotional reactions to her as you
>> are.
>
> Or is it that she said "I can't help it if people die around me."
> Or that the benghazi todo where she said over the death of Ambasadore
> Stevens, "What difference does it make now?"
>
> Who wouldn't get emotional over her statements because of the wrong
> doings she has done to other people and her recklessness of handling the
> problem causing our own people and others to die?
When I hear those who get so caught up over Benghazi show the same level of
outrage at other deaths I will take them more seriously. YES, Clinton has
said some dumb things about Benghazi but it is not the issue some make it.
...
>>> Yes, he has blamed Obama.
>>
>> What time stamp?
>
> 2016.
On the video you linked to!
>>
>>> You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.
>>
>> I have watched Trump... he is all emotion and no thought.
>
> So you say.
> I do not think that.
I gave some examples... I can give more.
...
>>>> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his hands.
>>>> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>>>
>>> That would make him a great leader.
>>
>> The fact he is all style (and not a good style at that) and no substance is
>> not exactly something that makes me think he would be a good leader.
>
> That's just your personal preferences. To me it looks like his wife is
> very good looking, and of course she married him.
>
> If you think looks makes a good leader, then Obama is pretty ugly.
Why bring up looks?
>> The fact he attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
>> HORRIBLE leader.
>
> Why worry about that?
Why worry about equality? Why worry about the first amendment? Why worry
about Nazi-like slogans and sentiments?
Because these things matter!
> After all, this is our country, not theirs.
See: the idea that a Muslim is any less an American than you are or I am or
anyone else is just bigoted, Nazi-like thinking. That type nonsense should
NEVER be accepted!
>> The fact he mocks women for their weight and judges them by it would make
>> him a HORRRIBLE leader.
>
> Yeah, something that happened 20 years ago. Something that Hillary
> forgot to mention.
He STILL mocks women for their looks and for having menstrual cycles and
breast feeding and more.
>> The fact he is a lousy business man who's only bragging points are how he
>> screwed others over would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>
> You keep saying that he is a lousy business man, yet he is successful in
> his business enterprise.
Successful in what? Not making much money? Screwing over others? How are
these good things?
> That is what you call good leadership.
How is not making much money a sign of "good leadership"?
> A loser, we don't need for president at this point in time. I'd rather have
> an ogre that has our own interests at heart and protect us, than some
> psychopathic liar like Hillary.
Trump lies as much or more than Clinton.
>> The fact he has claimed our wages are too high would make him a HORRIBLE
>> leader.
>
> He never said that.
This is what I mean: his followers have no idea what he has said. Here,
direct video proof he said it... and not as a slip of the tongue or
whatever, but as a talking point he tried to defend! And in one of the
debates!
<https://youtu.be/MbZ-o1T6F5Y?t=1m21s>
Seriously, no offense but how can you NOT have known this? Again, not some
side issue at some talk he gave where it is being taken out context.
Of course, as with almost all of his views, he flip flops on this like crazy
(even more than Clinton does on her views): <https://goo.gl/qaUfvg>.
He is ALL emotion... nobody can look at his content and agree because HE
does not agree with his own content!
>> The fact he denies climate change (except when he is not, and even then he
>> shows he lacks understanding) would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>
> Only a fools agenda to believe in it. Many other world leaders don't
> believe in it either.
If you cease to believe in seasons they still come. If you fail to believe
in gravity you still fall. Who else believes it is not even slightly
relevant to the fact that Trump denies basic science... science that is key
to being able to make decent policy and lead well. His denial of science
makes him a horrible leader.
Remember: Climate change is not even a political topic... except when it is
made so by people denying it. It is science... and it is well supported.
>> The fact he lies continually and contradicts himself and denies his own
>> claims would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>
> He doesn't. Is this snit I'm talking to? Or is it your other cia buddy
> that has the same play book?
I show, above, where he flip flops on minimum wage. How about his view of
Obama as an American? How about his view on the Iraq war? Banning Muslims?
The height and expense of his wall that will never be made anyway?
Maybe we can turn this around: what policy position has he NOT made major
flip flops on?
>> He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities to
>> make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on emotion
>> over logic.
>
> LOL!!! Trump is a leader, else he wouldn't have come this far.
He is able to get emotion-based people to get excited. OK.
>>>> He is an emotional child.
>>>
>>> So you think.
>>
>> The evidence backs this.
>
> What evidence?
> You are now running in circles here.
I already showed you where he speaks at the level of a 4th grader... and
where he has no real substance. What else do you need?
>>>>> He wants to protect americans from our
>>>>> corrupt government and banking system.
>>>
>>> So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?
>>
>> I never said any such thing.
>
> But it is evident that you do want this.
> I don't.
Please do not try to speak for me. Thanks!
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