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Re: The Steady State Universe

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Daniel60 wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote on 20/03/18 03:17:
> > Daniel60 wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 16:46:
> >>> Daniel60 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 07:09:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Before the Big Bang occurred..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Simply put, it became unsteady.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Based on observations..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> when they both were correct.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> >>>>>> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> >>>>>> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> >>>>>> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> >>>>>> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The green area here that is...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (which is the red area you see here)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
> >>>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
> >>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The green is A and the B is red.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >>>>>
> >>>>> just looking for more space:
> >>>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Looking at those links ... it's easy to see that you have *NEVER*
> >>>> learned any physics!!
> >>>
> >>> Is there a mistake that you see or error you can point out? Or you don't have a leg to stand on...
> >>>
> >> What?? You mean like the links don't seem to show what you reckon they
> >> show?? Sure, there's an error!!
> >
> > Which link are you refering to and where is the error exactly? ...or are you one of those vague people with their drive by shootings...
> >
> Well lets start with the four links from your post from a couple of days
> ago ....
> 
> *Quote*
> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang
> photo' looks like...sideways:
> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> 
> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
> 
> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> The green is A and the B is red.
> 
> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A
> transformed to B
> 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> 
> just looking for more space:
> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> *End Quote*
> 
> Your first link states it is an image of a Wormhole!!
> Your second link shows some pretty lights on a possibly star spangled
> background.
> Your third link shows an orange blob on a black background that turns
> orange.
> Your forth link is just a copy of your first link!
> 
> Sure, the images are pretty, but hardly cosmologically significant!!
> IMHO, of course!!
> --
> Daniel

I am simply using "illustrations", that I find on the Internet to...'illustrate' to you what this 

"photograph"
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg

is all about.

This is a photograph (not an illustration) of what it looked like 'before and after the big bang'

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg




Dictionary
il·lus·trate

explain or make (something) clear by using examples, charts, pictures, etc.
"the results are illustrated in Figure 7"
synonyms:	explain, explicate, elucidate, clarify, make plain, demonstrate, show, emphasize; informalget across
"this can be illustrated through a brief example"
serve as an example of.





If I want to use a pair of woman's stockings to illustrate...I can. It doesn't mean the big bang is a pair of woman's stockings.

I'm illustrating
what this
photograph is:

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


It is a 'photograph' of moments after the big bang *and* what it looked like before the big bang. A window into both universes.

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg



There is no error here, just a misunderstanding of women's stockings.

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