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The Steady State Universe

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First post2018-03-14 11:40 -0700
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  The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-14 11:40 -0700
    Re: The Steady State Universe "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 13:54 -0700
      Re: The Steady State Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-14 16:40 -0700
      Re: The Steady State Universe "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 10:42 -0700
        Re: The Steady State Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-16 14:11 -0700
    Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-14 18:24 -0700
      Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-14 21:50 -0700
        Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-15 23:33 -0700
          Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-16 09:21 -0700
        Re: The Steady State Universe Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-17 14:55 +0000
          Re: The Steady State Universe Térov Balónky <iytn@yeicenlw.ik> - 2018-03-17 17:17 +0000
          Re: The Steady State Universe Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-17 18:17 +0000
        Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-18 13:09 -0700
          Re: The Steady State Universe Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-03-19 15:03 +1100
            Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-18 22:46 -0700
              Re: The Steady State Universe Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-03-19 19:01 +1100
                Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-19 09:17 -0700
                  Re: The Steady State Universe Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-03-20 19:15 +1100
                    Re: The Steady State Universe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-20 13:33 +0100
                    Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-20 09:54 -0700
                      Re: The Steady State Universe Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-03-21 17:31 +1100
                        Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-21 14:09 -0700
                          Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-22 23:25 -0700
            Re: The Steady State Universe J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 07:53 -0400
              Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-19 09:18 -0700
              Re: The Steady State Universe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-20 00:44 +0100
    Re: The Steady State Universe Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-15 13:46 -0700
    Re: The Steady State Universe Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 09:08 +0000
      Re: The Steady State Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-22 13:25 -0700
        Re: The Steady State Universe Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 08:43 +0100
          Re: The Steady State Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-25 13:26 -0700
          Re: The Steady State Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-25 13:26 -0700
            Re: The Steady State Universe Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 18:10 +0100
              Re: The Steady State Universe "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-31 19:20 -0700
    Re: The Steady State Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-19 22:52 -0700

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#676345 — The Steady State Universe

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-14 11:40 -0700
SubjectThe Steady State Universe
Message-ID<5AA96C99.616D@ix.netcom.com>
Before the Big Bang occurred..

the universe was a Steady State Universe.

Simply put, it became unsteady.

So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..


it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.

Not the end of a theory for a new theory...

but the end of a universe for a new universe.

Based on observations..

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg

oh, btw...i found the Blue.


but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,

when they both were correct.



Where do you guys learn physics from????

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#676367

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-14 13:54 -0700
Message-ID<df9cf2c7-f574-4a93-9c4b-7e511f1353e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#676345
On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 11:40:36 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Before the Big Bang occurred..
> 
> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> 
> Simply put, it became unsteady.
> 
> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> 
> 
> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> 
> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> 
> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> 
> Based on observations..
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> 
> 
> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> 
> when they both were correct.
> 
> 
> 
> Where do you guys learn physics from????

Choas rules in universe structures.Some fast others very slow,but its the way of creating in both realms  Bert

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#676401

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-03-14 16:40 -0700
Message-ID<p8cbvt$hni$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#676367
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
"Choas rules in Bert's Brain structures.Some fast 
others very slow,but its the way of creating in both 
realms of Bert's Brain "G=emc^2" which clearly says:
*** "Glazier exhibits micro cephalic cretinism"***
"Being Jewish I know this is so very true", "O ya". Bert
>
"I am all alone in my van with my bucket that I shit into"
"Why am I not loved by all. I am very depressed". Bert
>


hmmm...<snicker>...<chortle>...ahahahAHAHA...ROTFLMAO

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#676644

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-16 10:42 -0700
Message-ID<8067e1fb-4f55-41dc-8879-4ce0632705a6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#676367
On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 1:54:14 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 11:40:36 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Before the Big Bang occurred..
> > 
> > the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> > 
> > Simply put, it became unsteady.
> > 
> > So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> > 
> > 
> > it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> > 
> > Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> > 
> > but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> > 
> > Based on observations..
> > 
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > 
> > oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> > 
> > 
> > but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> > 
> > when they both were correct.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> 
> Choas rules in universe structures.Some fast others very slow,but its the way of creating in both realms  Bert

Teality is nothing in both realms can ever be static.That is a given Bert

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#676698

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-03-16 14:11 -0700
Message-ID<p8hc0e$ctl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#676644
"the first thing that enters my mind when I wake up" is
that "I use Cocaine which is a wonder-drug for me". Bert
.. and it makes ne to obsessively advocate and pimp
<https://tinyurl.com/Glazier-s-sexual-harassments> as
<http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal>, given
that <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-REAL-intent> [1]
is very different from SwineBert's posted, phony
Sanctimony, (see Bert's filthy and criminal details inside [1].
>
>
"Why am I posting this, it's making me cry as it always does"
"I am all alone in my van and I am very depressed". Bert
"Why am I not loved by all. I am very depressed". Bert.
"Being Jewish I know this is so very true. O ya" -- Bert.
>
>
>
hmmm...<snicker>...<chortle>...ahahahAHAHA...ROTFLM

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#676409

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-14 18:24 -0700
Message-ID<5AA9CB55.499C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#676345
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Before the Big Bang occurred..
> 
> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> 
> Simply put, it became unsteady.
> 
> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> 
> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> 
> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> 
> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> 
> Based on observations..
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> 
> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> 
> when they both were correct.
> 
> Where do you guys learn physics from????



Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif



Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.



Where do you guys learn physics from????

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#676430

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-14 21:50 -0700
Message-ID<5AA9FB94.77CA@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#676409
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Before the Big Bang occurred..
> >
> > the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> >
> > Simply put, it became unsteady.
> >
> > So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> >
> > it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> >
> > Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> >
> > but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> >
> > Based on observations..
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> >
> > but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> >
> > when they both were correct.
> >
> > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> 
> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> 
> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> 
> Where do you guys learn physics from????

For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox

" In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and 
populated by an infinite number of stars, then 
any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and 
hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright. 
This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."


They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.


The green area here that is... 

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


"populated by an infinite number of stars"

any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star

(which is the red area you see here) 


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".



Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.



Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?

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#676588

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-15 23:33 -0700
Message-ID<5AAB6535.2199@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#676430
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Before the Big Bang occurred..
> > >
> > > the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> > >
> > > Simply put, it became unsteady.
> > >
> > > So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> > >
> > > it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> > >
> > > Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> > >
> > > but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> > >
> > > Based on observations..
> > >
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > >
> > > oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> > >
> > > but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> > >
> > > when they both were correct.
> > >
> > > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >
> > Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> >
> > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >
> > Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> >
> > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> 
> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
> 
> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
> 
> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
> 
> The green area here that is...
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
> 
> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
> 
> (which is the red area you see here)
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
> 
> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
> 
> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?



Albert Einstein liked 'the steady state universe' idea, but it conflicted with his relativity.


What he didn't realize was that what came before the big bang was 'the steady state universe'.

They are not seperate universes..just one exist in one diminsion...green, the other exist in the other diminsion...red.


Those red-shift you see far away are from the very beginnings....


The green area in this photo of the before and after the big bang

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


is stars just making more and more stars until it ran out of space...then...bang.


Sort of like a whirlpool...(not really a bang) 


Don't depend on scientist to give you all the answers...Nature speaks to anyone who listens.

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#676622

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-16 09:21 -0700
Message-ID<5AABEF20.59F0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#676588
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Before the Big Bang occurred..
> > > >
> > > > the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> > > >
> > > > Simply put, it became unsteady.
> > > >
> > > > So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> > > >
> > > > it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> > > >
> > > > Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> > > >
> > > > but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> > > >
> > > > Based on observations..
> > > >
> > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > > >
> > > > oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> > > >
> > > > but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> > > >
> > > > when they both were correct.
> > > >
> > > > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> > >
> > > Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> > >
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > >
> > > Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> > >
> > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> > >
> > > Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> > >
> > > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >
> > For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
> >
> > " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> > populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> > any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> > hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> > This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
> >
> > They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
> >
> > The green area here that is...
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > "populated by an infinite number of stars"
> >
> > any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
> >
> > (which is the red area you see here)
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
> >
> > Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
> >
> > Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
> 
> Albert Einstein liked 'the steady state universe' idea, but it conflicted with his relativity.
> 
> What he didn't realize was that what came before the big bang was 'the steady state universe'.
> 
> They are not seperate universes..just one exist in one diminsion...green, the other exist in the other diminsion...red.
> 
> Those red-shift you see far away are from the very beginnings....
> 
> The green area in this photo of the before and after the big bang
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> is stars just making more and more stars until it ran out of space...then...bang.
> 
> Sort of like a whirlpool...(not really a bang)
> 
> Don't depend on scientist to give you all the answers...Nature speaks to anyone who listens.


The mistake Albert Einstein made was that he had a piece of the puzzle that was upsidedown¿

This piece of the puzzle should have been at the beggining, not at the end (which created the paradox)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif

If Einstein simply took the one piece, turn it upside down..then it would fit with the other piece.

Then he would had have a 'steady state universe' that fits with an 'expansion universe' with the big bang in the middle.


It would look like this puzzle that fits:

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


The green is the 'steady state universe', the red is the 'big bang..expansion universe'.


Instead, Einstein threw away one piece to the garbage, and kept the second piece and everybody wondered, "Where is the piece before that?"

It's in the garbage, they threw it away!


That's dumb.



In your lingo...you had to combine the two pieces.



To my surprise 'they' still have the piece UPSIDEDOWN over here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox


And Albert Einstein piece is still in the garbage! till this day..





Where do you guys learn physics from???? 



What do you expect from people who got rocks in their heads¿

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#676807

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-17 14:55 +0000
Message-ID<R%9rC.32761$%a5.4760@fx21.am4>
In reply to#676430
On 15/03/2018 04:50, The Starmaker wrote:

>>> ... yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake .........

You sure got that RIGHT eh!



> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."

Not sure who is being quoted here, but it was either written before 
Hubble with his red-shifts, or by someone ignoring the relevance eh!

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#676812

FromTérov Balónky <iytn@yeicenlw.ik>
Date2018-03-17 17:17 +0000
Message-ID<p8jiik$17nf$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#676807
Keith Stein wrote:

>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at
>> a large scale, and populated by an infinite number of stars, then any
>> line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a
>> star and hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very
>> bright. This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of
>> the night."
> 
> Not sure who is being quoted here, but it was either written before
> Hubble with his red-shifts, or by someone ignoring the relevance eh!

You need study Object Oriented Programming, Structured Computer 
Organization and Learn Java in 21 days.

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#676820

FromNinapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-17 18:17 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA8A872D53DA1Ftaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.42>
In reply to#676807
Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> wrote in
news:R%9rC.32761$%a5.4760@fx21.am4: 

> On 15/03/2018 04:50, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
>>>> ... yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake
>>>> ......... 
> 
> You sure got that RIGHT eh!
> 
> 
> 
>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static,
>> homogeneous at a large scale, and populated by an infinite
>> number of stars, then any line of sight from Earth must end at
>> the (very bright) surface of a star and hence the night sky
>> should be completely illuminated and very bright. This
>> contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the
>> night." 
> 
> Not sure who is being quoted here, but it was either written
> before Hubble with his red-shifts, or by someone ignoring the
> relevance eh! 
> 
Regardless of who he might be quoting, it was posted by Starmaker, 
who is mentally ill. Don't feed his illness.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#677025

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-18 13:09 -0700
Message-ID<5AAEC75F.C7E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#676430
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Before the Big Bang occurred..
> > >
> > > the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> > >
> > > Simply put, it became unsteady.
> > >
> > > So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> > >
> > > it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> > >
> > > Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> > >
> > > but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> > >
> > > Based on observations..
> > >
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > >
> > > oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> > >
> > > but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> > >
> > > when they both were correct.
> > >
> > > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >
> > Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> >
> > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >
> > Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> >
> > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> 
> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
> 
> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
> 
> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
> 
> The green area here that is...
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
> 
> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
> 
> (which is the red area you see here)
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
> 
> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
> 
> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?


Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg


A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.


It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


The green is A and the B is red.



and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif



just looking for more space:
http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg



Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.



Where do you guys learn physics from????


from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?

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#677141

FromDaniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2018-03-19 15:03 +1100
Message-ID<p8nct2$k7r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#677025
The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 07:09:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Before the Big Bang occurred..
>>>>
>>>> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
>>>>
>>>> Simply put, it became unsteady.
>>>>
>>>> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
>>>>
>>>> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
>>>>
>>>> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
>>>>
>>>> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
>>>>
>>>> Based on observations..
>>>>
>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>
>>>> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
>>>>
>>>> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
>>>>
>>>> when they both were correct.
>>>>
>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>>
>>> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
>>>
>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>
>>> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
>>>
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
>>>
>>> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
>>>
>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>
>> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
>>
>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
>> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
>> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
>> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
>> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
>>
>> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
>>
>> The green area here that is...
>>
>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>
>> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
>>
>> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
>>
>> (which is the red area you see here)
>>
>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>
>> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
>>
>> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
>>
>> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
> 
> 
> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> 
> 
> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
> 
> 
> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> 
> The green is A and the B is red.
> 
> 
> 
> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B
> 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> 
> 
> 
> just looking for more space:
> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.
> 
> 
> 
> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> 
> 
> from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?
> 
Looking at those links ... it's easy to see that you have *NEVER* 
learned any physics!!

-- 
Daniel

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#677151

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-18 22:46 -0700
Message-ID<5AAF4EA5.53C2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#677141
Daniel60 wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 07:09:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Before the Big Bang occurred..
> >>>>
> >>>> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Simply put, it became unsteady.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> >>>>
> >>>> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> >>>>
> >>>> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Based on observations..
> >>>>
> >>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> >>>>
> >>>> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> >>>>
> >>>> when they both were correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>
> >>> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> >>>
> >>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>
> >>> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> >>>
> >>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >>>
> >>> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> >>>
> >>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>
> >> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
> >>
> >> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> >> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> >> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> >> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> >> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
> >>
> >> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
> >>
> >> The green area here that is...
> >>
> >> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>
> >> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
> >>
> >> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
> >>
> >> (which is the red area you see here)
> >>
> >> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>
> >> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
> >>
> >> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
> >>
> >> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
> >
> >
> > Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
> > http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >
> >
> > A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
> >
> >
> > It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> >
> > The green is A and the B is red.
> >
> >
> >
> > and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B
> >
> > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >
> >
> >
> > just looking for more space:
> > http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >
> >
> > from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?
> >
> Looking at those links ... it's easy to see that you have *NEVER*
> learned any physics!!
> 


Is there a mistake that you see or error you can point out? Or you don't have a leg to stand on...

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#677156

FromDaniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2018-03-19 19:01 +1100
Message-ID<p8nqsb$q0t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#677151
The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 16:46:
> Daniel60 wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 07:09:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before the Big Bang occurred..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simply put, it became unsteady.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on observations..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when they both were correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
>>>>>
>>>>> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>>>
>>>> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
>>>>
>>>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
>>>> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
>>>> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
>>>> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
>>>> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
>>>>
>>>> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
>>>>
>>>> The green area here that is...
>>>>
>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>
>>>> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
>>>>
>>>> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
>>>>
>>>> (which is the red area you see here)
>>>>
>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>
>>>> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
>>>>
>>>> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
>>>>
>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> The green is A and the B is red.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B
>>>
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> just looking for more space:
>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>>
>>>
>>> from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?
>>>
>> Looking at those links ... it's easy to see that you have *NEVER*
>> learned any physics!!
>>
> 
> 
> Is there a mistake that you see or error you can point out? Or you don't have a leg to stand on...
> 
What?? You mean like the links don't seem to show what you reckon they 
show?? Sure, there's an error!!

-- 
Daniel

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#677195

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-19 09:17 -0700
Message-ID<5AAFE288.4408@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#677156
Daniel60 wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 16:46:
> > Daniel60 wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 07:09:
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Before the Big Bang occurred..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Simply put, it became unsteady.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Based on observations..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> when they both were correct.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>
> >>>> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
> >>>>
> >>>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> >>>> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> >>>> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> >>>> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> >>>> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
> >>>>
> >>>> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
> >>>>
> >>>> The green area here that is...
> >>>>
> >>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
> >>>>
> >>>> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
> >>>>
> >>>> (which is the red area you see here)
> >>>>
> >>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
> >>>>
> >>>> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
> >>>>
> >>>> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
> >>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
> >>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The green is A and the B is red.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B
> >>>
> >>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> just looking for more space:
> >>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?
> >>>
> >> Looking at those links ... it's easy to see that you have *NEVER*
> >> learned any physics!!
> >>
> >
> >
> > Is there a mistake that you see or error you can point out? Or you don't have a leg to stand on...
> >
> What?? You mean like the links don't seem to show what you reckon they
> show?? Sure, there's an error!!
> 
> --
> Daniel



Which link are you refering to and where is the error exactly? ...or are you one of those vague people with their drive by shootings...

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#677319

FromDaniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2018-03-20 19:15 +1100
Message-ID<p8qg20$90d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#677195
The Starmaker wrote on 20/03/18 03:17:
> Daniel60 wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 16:46:
>>> Daniel60 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 07:09:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before the Big Bang occurred..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simply put, it became unsteady.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Based on observations..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when they both were correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
>>>>>>
>>>>>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
>>>>>> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
>>>>>> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
>>>>>> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
>>>>>> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The green area here that is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (which is the red area you see here)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
>>>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> The green is A and the B is red.
>>>>>
>>>>> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B
>>>>>
>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
>>>>>
>>>>> just looking for more space:
>>>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
>>>>>
>>>>> from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?
>>>>>
>>>> Looking at those links ... it's easy to see that you have *NEVER*
>>>> learned any physics!!
>>>
>>> Is there a mistake that you see or error you can point out? Or you don't have a leg to stand on...
>>>
>> What?? You mean like the links don't seem to show what you reckon they
>> show?? Sure, there's an error!!
> 
> Which link are you refering to and where is the error exactly? ...or are you one of those vague people with their drive by shootings...
> 
Well lets start with the four links from your post from a couple of days 
ago ....

*Quote*
Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang 
photo' looks like...sideways:
http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg

A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.

It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg

The green is A and the B is red.

and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A 
transformed to B

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif

just looking for more space:
http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
*End Quote*


Your first link states it is an image of a Wormhole!!
Your second link shows some pretty lights on a possibly star spangled 
background.
Your third link shows an orange blob on a black background that turns 
orange.
Your forth link is just a copy of your first link!

Sure, the images are pretty, but hardly cosmologically significant!! 
IMHO, of course!!
-- 
Daniel

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#677344

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-03-20 13:33 +0100
Message-ID<1767774.usQuhbGJ8B@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#677319
Daniel60 amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups without Followup-To:

> The Starmaker [trolled]:
>> […]
> [Full quote]

Score adjusted.


PointedEars
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A: Fission chips.

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#677375

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-20 09:54 -0700
Message-ID<5AB13CD4.2803@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#677319
Daniel60 wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote on 20/03/18 03:17:
> > Daniel60 wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 16:46:
> >>> Daniel60 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 07:09:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Before the Big Bang occurred..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the universe was a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Simply put, it became unsteady.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So, if you want to know what caused the Big Bang..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> it was simply the end of a Steady State Universe.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Not the end of a theory for a new theory...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but the end of a universe for a new universe.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Based on observations..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> oh, btw...i found the Blue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but yous guys (including albert einstein) made a big mistake of dropping one theory for another theory,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> when they both were correct.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Besides this, the green area of the photograph is what is illustrated below:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is an illustration of what caused the big bang...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Except, you guys got the paradox.... backwards.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For example...according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> " In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and
> >>>>>> populated by an infinite number of stars, then
> >>>>>> any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and
> >>>>>> hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright.
> >>>>>> This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They got this Olber thing (including Olber) ...backwards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The green area here that is...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "populated by an infinite number of stars"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> any line of sight from Earth must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (which is the red area you see here)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> that which you call the big bang is "the (very bright) surface of a star".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not "must end at the (very bright) surface of a star", but must BEGIN at the (very bright) surface of a star.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from???? Who gets all this stuff ...backwards?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang photo' looks like...sideways:
> >>>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
> >>>>> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The green is A and the B is red.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A transformed to B
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> >>>>>
> >>>>> just looking for more space:
> >>>>> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Actually...if you believe the universe is ...flat, then picture a flat...cone.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where do you guys learn physics from????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> from stupid proffesors?? oh, go back to skool, you're gonna learn a lot more, ain't you?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Looking at those links ... it's easy to see that you have *NEVER*
> >>>> learned any physics!!
> >>>
> >>> Is there a mistake that you see or error you can point out? Or you don't have a leg to stand on...
> >>>
> >> What?? You mean like the links don't seem to show what you reckon they
> >> show?? Sure, there's an error!!
> >
> > Which link are you refering to and where is the error exactly? ...or are you one of those vague people with their drive by shootings...
> >
> Well lets start with the four links from your post from a couple of days
> ago ....
> 
> *Quote*
> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang
> photo' looks like...sideways:
> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> 
> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang.
> 
> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated.
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> The green is A and the B is red.
> 
> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A
> transformed to B
> 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif
> 
> just looking for more space:
> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg
> *End Quote*
> 
> Your first link states it is an image of a Wormhole!!
> Your second link shows some pretty lights on a possibly star spangled
> background.
> Your third link shows an orange blob on a black background that turns
> orange.
> Your forth link is just a copy of your first link!
> 
> Sure, the images are pretty, but hardly cosmologically significant!!
> IMHO, of course!!
> --
> Daniel

I am simply using "illustrations", that I find on the Internet to...'illustrate' to you what this 

"photograph"
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg

is all about.

This is a photograph (not an illustration) of what it looked like 'before and after the big bang'

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg




Dictionary
il·lus·trate

explain or make (something) clear by using examples, charts, pictures, etc.
"the results are illustrated in Figure 7"
synonyms:	explain, explicate, elucidate, clarify, make plain, demonstrate, show, emphasize; informalget across
"this can be illustrated through a brief example"
serve as an example of.





If I want to use a pair of woman's stockings to illustrate...I can. It doesn't mean the big bang is a pair of woman's stockings.

I'm illustrating
what this
photograph is:

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


It is a 'photograph' of moments after the big bang *and* what it looked like before the big bang. A window into both universes.

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg



There is no error here, just a misunderstanding of women's stockings.

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