So it was a race against Buzzard. Well done! [Langlands FML and SML] (Was: Dark Math Factories Interpret the Infinite!)

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject	So it was a race against Buzzard. Well done! [Langlands FML and SML] (Was: Dark Math Factories Interpret the Infinite!)
Date	2026-10-03 01:40 +0200
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Hi,

There's a larger project called FALSE (Formalising
Arithmetic in the Lean Software Environment)
explicitly aimed at "making progress towards
  formalising the Langlands program" . And a

Twitter thread claims Claude autoformalized
the Fermat proof "in just 11 days," with Kevin
Buzzard now wanting to formalize the Langlands
program because he's "concerned it might
contain subtle errors"

Now look at this:

https://github.com/fukubillueda-web/epsilon_FML

https://github.com/fukubillueda-web/epsilon_SML

According to the related arvix paper:

So the provenance chain is: Dwork (attributed,
unpublished) → Langlands (used it) → Lakkis (partial
proof, sign issue) → Ueda (completes it, 2026). That's
the "mixtape" you're looking for — the mathematical
content passed through at least three hands before
Ueda's Lean formalization.

And then: "OpenAI ChatGPT was used extensively in
the development of this proof." The paper says ChatGPT
was used "to check calculations and compare them with
the arguments of Dwork, Langlands, and Lakkis, and
detect inconsistencies in intermediate versions of
the proof."

The author "checked the final mathematical
arguments and assumes responsibility."

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> OpenAI has announced enhancing their Math Swarms
> by an interpretability accelerator prompt recently
> discovered in a Terrence Tao workshop.
> 
> So they are now takling:
> 
> Mathematician W. Hugh Woodin Explains Continuum Hypothesis
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC7wglkBWMM
> 
> Infinite fun with infinite worlds
> https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2020/08/infinite-fun-with-the-infinite-worlds.html 
> 
> 
> A partial Lean 4 formalization is already in
> the making. But the hurdles are high. Some
> speaker of the effort said:
> 
> The computer might find a new tamagochi knottheory
> lemma, which will then allow SpaceX to fly through
> wormholes, but the hurdle will be hight that
> 
> a single human mathematician mind might
> ingest, understand and interpret it.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
>> reached a significant milestone this summer.
>>
>> The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
>> to measure time, so forget Colorado.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  >
>>  > So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of
>>  > time", in the micro, meso, and macro.
>>  >
>>  > Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory
>>  > in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
>>  > regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.
>>  >
>>  > About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
>>  > similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
>>  > about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli
>>  > Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis,
>>  > measuring time.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
>>  > and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
>>  > it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
>>  > on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>  > Or shaves pennies.
>>>
>>>  >>> X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVM™) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
>>>  >>> processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
>>>  >>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe
>>>
>>> Cost/hour: $200,000.00
>>>
>>> LoL
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
>>> possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:
>>>
>>> Version release notes
>>> XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
>>> all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
>>>> keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
>>>>> probing, and look at some newer beast.
>>>>>
>>>>> This looks bad:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
>>>>> 9122171.18175435
>>>>>
>>>>> Expected result:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
>>>>> 9122171.181754
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: Tested using this test tester:
>>>>>
>>>>> X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVM™) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI 
> processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
>>>>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>  >>> See also:
>>>>>  >>> https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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