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For iGPU which acts as a APU RAM is shared (Re: So memory bandwidth is no issue at all)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog, sci.physics, sci.logic
Subject For iGPU which acts as a APU RAM is shared (Re: So memory bandwidth is no issue at all)
Date 2026-07-16 17:09 +0200
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Hi,

For iGPU which acts as a APU RAM is shared,

an integrated GPU (iGPU) used as an APU
relies entirely on shared system RAM.
Because the processor and graphics chip
live on the same silicon die, they do not
have their own separate video memory
(like discrete GPUs do with dedicated VRAM).
Instead, the iGPU carves out a portion of
your regular system memory to store textures,
frame buffers, and other graphics data.

While AMD originally coined Accelerated
Processing Unit (APU) in 2011 to highlight the
fusion of CPU and GPU on a single die,
modern AI computing has redefined what
it means to "accelerate" data. When Intel
and Apple discuss their latest processors,
they frequently highlight dedicated hardware
blocks called NPUs (Neural Processing Units) or
Neural Engines right alongside the CPU and GPU.

https://www.articsledge.com/post/accelerated-processing-unit-apu

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> So memory bandwidth is no issue at all for
> this kind of backtracking problem. Its all
> about arithmetic bandwidth . And since I am
> 
> not using vectors or matrices, it is still
> poor. You can do the math. The CPU has 16
> logical cores (8 physical with hyperthreading).
> 
> The GPU single-threaded is around 5 times
> slower than the CPU single threaded, but
> their number is greater. Now you can do
> 
> the math as follows:
> 
> 16 * 11.4 / 1.7 * 5 = 536.47
> 
> Pretty much the number of shader cores (*),
> i.e. 512, that the Ryzen AI 7 350 laptop
> offers in its integrated GPU Radeon 860M.
> 
> LoL
> 
> Bye
> 
> (*) Unified shading units (also referred to
> as unified shaders, shader cores, or stream
> processors) are flexible processing components
> 
> inside a graphics processing unit (GPU) that
> can handle any type of rendering or compute task.
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We recently implemented a parallel π-WAM
>> on a GPU backend and could demonstrate an
>> estimated 11.4 Giga Lips. In this post we
>> report a further experiment, this time
>> presenting a parallel π-WAM on a CPU backend,
>> that can lift specialized Prolog, currently
>> to 1.7 Giga Lips performance.
>>
>> Having an excess number of threads is a
>> bad idea. What if we do context switching
>> on our own? With this approach we could
>> bring down the execution time of 128 Hack
>> VMs by 33%. We estimate for the test which
>> had 11.4 GLips on the GPU, that we reach
>> 1.7 GLips on the CPU.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> See also:
>>
>> Parallel π-WAM: 1.7 Giga Lips on a CPU
>> https://medium.com/2989/8a984e75af44
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> TSMC's 2nm (N2) node and the 7 GHz target
>>> represent a monumental milestone in silicon
>>> manufacturing, shifting away from legacy
>>> FinFETs to advanced Gate-All-Around (GAA)
>>> nanosheet transistors.
>>>
>>> This evolution allows chip designers—particularly
>>> in the PC and AI sectors—to push processor
>>> clock speeds previously thought impossible
>>> on standard nodes
>>>
>>> AMD confirms Zen 6 rollout for its July 22 AI event
>>> https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-zen-6-launches-in-less-than-two-weeks-starting-with-epyc-venice 
>>>
>>>
>>> Production of the 6th Gen EPYC family is
>>> already ramping up. AMD says Venice is its
>>> first high-performance computing product
>>> manufactured using TSMC’s 2nm process
>>> technology.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> For marketing purposes people
>>>> typically look at the race towards
>>>> 2nm, and we find:
>>>>
>>>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>>>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>>>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>>>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>>>> is also in the race with its recently
>>>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>>>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>>>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>>>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>>>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>>>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>>>
>>>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>>>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>>>> being at 18 layers now:
>>>>
>>>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>>>
>>>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>>>
>>>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>>>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>>>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>>>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>>>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>>>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>>>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>>>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>
>>
> 

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TSMC's 2nm (N2) node and the 7 GHz target (Re: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-14 14:12 +0200
  Re: TSMC's 2nm (N2) node and the 7 GHz target (Re: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army") Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-07-14 16:46 +0000
  pi-WAM is just like Laika3, the first Dog on Mars (Was: TSMC's 2nm (N2) node and the 7 GHz target) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-15 18:10 +0200
    So memory bandwidth is no issue at all (Re: pi-WAM is just like Laika3, the first Dog on Mars) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-15 18:37 +0200
      For iGPU which acts as a APU RAM is shared (Re: So memory bandwidth is no issue at all) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-16 17:09 +0200

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