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Re: No Mars travel for Mankind

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Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
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> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 12:54:34 -0700, brandonahenley9 wrote:
>>> Our next step's back to the moon.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> The moon, and especially the far (dark) side,

The *only* proper term is “_far_ side of the Moon” as the far side is not 
always dark (in shadow).  In particular, there is “noon” on the far side 
whenever there is new moon for the observer.

> is an ideal location for astronomical observation.

It depends.  On the far side there is also a greater risk for meteoroid 
impacts destroying such equipment.

> Scientific outposts, mostly automated, should be established there.  Radio
> astronomy would benefit greatly from the total absence of man-made
> terrestrial noise.

Would radio noise really be absent?  Consider the Deep Space Network already 
established.

> Also, if fusion power is ever to become dominant, we will need to mine
> the moon for its helium.

“The Moon's surface contains helium-3 at concentrations on the order of 10 
ppb [parts per billion]” (Wikipedia [1]).  That is, in 10 kg of lunar 
regolith there are 100 ng (nanograms) of helium-3.

[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium#Isotopes>

> These highly worthwhile endeavors […]

How much lunar regolith does one have to mine before it becomes worthwhile 
to be mined for fusion power?

> But instead of preparing for these reasonable eventualities we are
> wasting valuable time and resources in speculations on a misplaced
> and futile mission to Mars.

The Mars mission is not misplaced and futile.  Like the Moon landing, it is
going to spur innovation in various fields; in fact, it does that already as 
we observe the ISS being the testbed of it.  Just think of the scope of that 
project, and the organizational, technical, and scientific knowledge that 
have to be gained, and skills that have to be attained, in order to 
accomplish it.

> What fools we human be.

It takes one to know one.

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No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-29 10:28 -0500
  Re: No Mars travel for Mankind noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 09:33 -0700
  Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-29 11:13 -0700
    Re: No Mars travel for Mankind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-29 11:41 -0700
    Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-03 15:54 -0500
      Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-08-05 12:14 -0700
        Re: No Mars travel for Mankind "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 13:57 -0700
          Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-08-09 14:23 -0700
  Re: No Mars travel for Mankind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-29 11:24 -0700
  Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Jerry Kraus <jkraus1999@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 12:23 -0700
    Re: No Mars travel for Mankind brandonahenley9@gmail.com - 2016-07-29 12:54 -0700
      Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-07-30 15:07 +0000
        Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-30 17:24 -0500
          Re: No Mars travel for Mankind benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 18:43 -0400
        Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-31 12:05 +0200
          Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-31 08:59 -0500
            Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-31 09:07 -0500
              Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-07-31 18:12 +0000
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:47 -0700
          Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-07-31 18:07 +0000
            Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-08-01 01:31 +0200
              Re: No Mars travel for Mankind fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 08:46 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 11:02 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-01 15:51 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-08-01 20:08 +0200
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 13:17 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-08-02 00:57 +0200
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-08-01 23:34 +0000
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 04:39 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-08-03 12:49 -0500
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 06:50 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind "Eduardo Efftardo" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-08-06 13:27 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-01 16:49 -0700
                Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-08-02 12:13 +0000
          Re: No Mars travel for Mankind noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 12:40 -0700
    Re: No Mars travel for Mankind jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-29 22:19 +0000
      Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-29 17:40 -0500
        Re: No Mars travel for Mankind jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-29 22:55 +0000
        Re: No Mars travel for Mankind osbornfg@gmail.com - 2016-08-02 06:54 -0700
  Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-07-29 19:20 -0400
    Re: No Mars travel for Mankind jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-30 00:22 +0000
      Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-07-30 19:09 +0000
        Re: No Mars travel for Mankind jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-30 23:20 +0000
  No Mars travel for Mankind HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 10:53 -0700
    Re: No Mars travel for Mankind benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 18:02 -0400
    Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-07-31 06:44 +0000
      Re: No Mars travel for Mankind Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-31 09:02 -0500

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