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  LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-08 02:28 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Ejí Utorka <edew@aewedoc.cl> - 2018-12-08 15:58 +0000
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:02 +0000
        Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Ejí Utorka <edew@aewedoc.cl> - 2018-12-08 18:50 +0000
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-08 10:06 -0800
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:53 -0800
        Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Rich Carpenter <lcug@kigcohc.pa> - 2018-12-09 15:51 +0000
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-08 22:18 +0100
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-09 05:57 -0800
        Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 11:20 -0800
          Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 11:36 -0800
            Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Rich Carpenter <lcug@kigcohc.pa> - 2018-12-10 19:41 +0000
              Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 12:58 -0800
                Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Rich Carpenter <lcug@kigcohc.pa> - 2018-12-11 20:30 +0000
            Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 16:23 -0800
              Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-10 16:36 -0800
                Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-10 16:40 -0800
                  Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-10 16:44 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:37 -0800
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Ejí Utorka <edew@aewedoc.cl> - 2018-12-08 19:04 +0000
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-10 11:49 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-10 16:51 -0800
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 10:10 -0800
        Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 22:28 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-11 12:06 -0800
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 12:29 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-11 16:25 -0800
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 22:11 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 13:09 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 13:25 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 13:38 -0800
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 14:17 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 16:12 -0800
      Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 16:36 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 16:45 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 16:54 -0800
    Re: LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 16:58 -0800

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#479316 — LIGO's Neutron-Star-Merger Event: Fake More Than Obvious

"On 8:41 am EDT August 17, 2017, LIGO detected a new gravitational wave source, dubbed GW170817 to mark its discovery date. Just two seconds later NASA's Fermi satellite detected a weak pulse of gamma rays from the same location of the sky."  https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2017-30

"The same location" is an Achilles' heel. Gamma rays undergo gravitational deflection while gravitational waves presumably don't, so arriving "from the same location of the sky" is impossible. The scenario is fake.

The simultaneous arrival is another Achilles' heel. Even if gravitational waves existed (they don't), the simultaneous arrival of optical signals and gravitational waves would remain an obvious fake, for the following two reasons: 

1. That (some, not all) gravitational waves travel at the speed of light was Eddington's 1922 fabrication (nothing to do with Einstein's general relativity): 

Arthur Eddington 1922: "The problem of the propagation of disturbances of the gravitational field was investigated by Einstein in 1916, and again in 1918. It has usually been inferred from his discussion that a change in the distribution of matter produces gravitational effects which are propagated with the speed of light; but I think that Einstein really left the question of the speed of propagation rather indefinite. His analysis shows how the co-ordinates must be chosen if it is desired to represent the gravitational potentials as propagated with the speed of light; but there is nothing to indicate that the speed of light appears in the problem, except as the result of this arbitrary choice. [...] Weyl has classified plane gravitational waves into three types, viz.: (1) longitudinal-longitudinal; (2)longitudinal-transverse; (3) transverse-transverse. The present investigation leads to the conclusion that transverse-transverse waves are propagated with the speed of light in all systems of co-ordinates. Waves of the first and second types have no fixed velocity - a result which rouses suspicion as to their objective existence."  http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royprsa/102/716/268.full.pdf 

2. The simultaneous arrival of optical signals and gravitational waves can only be discussed if the gravitational waves experience Shapiro delay, like optical signals, which is nonsense of course. 

Conclusion: LIGO conspirators obviously FAKED the simultaneous arrival of optical signals and gravitational waves in the GW170817 (neutron-star-collision) experiment. 

Pentcho Valev

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#479338

Pentcho Valev wrote:

> "On 8:41 am EDT August 17, 2017, LIGO detected a new gravitational wave
> source, dubbed GW170817 to mark its discovery date. Just two seconds
> later NASA's Fermi satellite detected a weak pulse of gamma rays from
> the same location of the sky."  https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2017-30
> "The same location" is an Achilles' heel. Gamma rays undergo
> gravitational deflection while gravitational waves presumably don't, so
> arriving "from the same location of the sky" is impossible. The scenario
> is fake.

Much worse than that. The galaxy rotation gravity anomaly is pure GR, 
hence the name given "dark-matter". Meanwhile the universe expansion is 
due to the light speed, the doppler shift, given the name "dark-energy", 
which is pure SR. Distinct and separated from each other, both OUTSIDE 
relativities DOMAIN of applicability.

One more proof that SR and GR are totally distinct theories. The Roy 
Masters putting them together misunderstood completely what is going on.

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#479352

The nymshifting troll, trolling as Eji Utorka <edew@aewedoc.cl> trolled:

>Pentcho Valev wrote:

>> "On 8:41 am EDT August 17, 2017, LIGO detected a new gravitational wave
...

>Much worse than that. The galaxy rotation gravity anomaly is pure GR, 
>hence the name given "dark-matter".

No, nymshifter, dark matter is simply unexplained mass that is not 
detectable other than by its gravity. Nothing to do with GR other than
gravity itself is GR.

> Meanwhile the universe expansion is due to the light speed, the doppler 
>shift, given the name "dark-energy", which is pure SR.

No. I believe Einstein's cosmological constant behind the expansion of
the universe is part of GR.

>One more proof that SR and GR are totally distinct theories.

Wrong. SR is simply a subset of GR, a simplification that can be used when
gravity is 0 or too small to be relevant.  Whenever you can use SR you can
use full-blown GR if you like to do lots of extra math that will result in
lots of cancellations or zeroes.

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#479370

the uneducated imbecile with the proper name of Michael Moroney wrote:

>>One more proof that SR and GR are totally distinct theories.
> 
> Wrong. SR is simply a subset of GR, a simplification that can be used
> when gravity is 0 or too small to be relevant.  Whenever you can use SR
> you can use full-blown GR if you like to do lots of extra math that will
> result in lots of cancellations or zeroes.

Then do it, simplify you ass out of GR. Make me laugh.

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#479353

Gravitational waves (ripples in spacetime) don't exist because spacetime doesn't exist, and spacetime doesn't exist because the speed of light is VARIABLE: 

Stationary light source; moving receiver:  http://www.einstein-online.info/images/spotlights/doppler/doppler_detector_blue.gif 

(Website:  http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/doppler.html) 

The speed of the light pulses relative to the source is 

c = df 

where d is the distance between the pulses and f is the frequency measured by the source. The speed of the pulses relative to the receiver is 

c'= df' > c 

where f' > f is the frequency measured by the receiver.

In 1887 the Michelson-Morley experiment UNEQUIVOCALLY confirmed the variable speed of light posited by Newton's emission theory of light and refuted the constant (independent of the speed of the light source) speed of light posited by the ether theory and later adopted by Einstein as his 1905 second postulate: 

John Norton: "The Michelson-Morley experiment is fully compatible with an emission theory of light that CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE."   http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/1743/2/Norton.pdf 

"Emission theory, also called emitter theory or ballistic theory of light, was a competing theory for the special theory of relativity, explaining the results of the Michelson–Morley experiment of 1887. [...] The name most often associated with emission theory is Isaac Newton. In his corpuscular theory Newton visualized light "corpuscles" being thrown off from hot bodies at a nominal speed of c with respect to the emitting object, and obeying the usual laws of Newtonian mechanics, and we then expect light to be moving towards us with a speed that is offset by the speed of the distant emitter (c ± v)."  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_theory 

In Einstein's schizophrenic world scientists repudiate spacetime but worship the underlying premise, Einstein's false constant-speed-of-light postulate, and LIGO's ripples in spacetime: 

Nima Arkani-Hamed (06:09): "Almost all of us believe that space-time doesn't really exist, space-time is doomed and has to be replaced..."  https://youtu.be/U47kyV4TMnE?t=369 

"We've known for decades that space-time is doomed," says Arkani-Hamed. "We know it is not there in the next version of physics."  http://discovermagazine.com/2014/jan-feb/10-shaping-the-future-of-physics 

Nobel Laureate David Gross observed, "Everyone in string theory is convinced...that spacetime is doomed. But we don't know what it's replaced by."  https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26563 

What scientific idea is ready for retirement? Steve Giddings: "Spacetime. Physics has always been regarded as playing out on an underlying stage of space and time. Special relativity joined these into spacetime... [...] The apparent need to retire classical spacetime as a fundamental concept is profound..."  https://www.edge.org/response-detail/25477 

"Rethinking Einstein: The end of space-time. [...] Horava, who is at the University of California, Berkeley, wants to rip this fabric apart and set time and space free from one another in order to come up with a unified theory that reconciles the disparate worlds of quantum mechanics and gravity - one the most pressing challenges to modern physics."  https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727721-200-rethinking-einstein-the-end-of-space-time/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcMHjnHWkAEXB8f.jpg 

Pentcho Valev

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#479371

On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 10:06:31 AM UTC-8, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> Gravitational waves (ripples in spacetime) don't exist because spacetime doesn't exist, and spacetime doesn't exist because the speed of light is VARIABLE: 

Idiot.

--
Jan

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#479456

JanPB wrote:

> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 10:06:31 AM UTC-8, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> Gravitational waves (ripples in spacetime) don't exist because
>> spacetime doesn't exist, and spacetime doesn't exist because the speed
>> of light is VARIABLE:
> 
> Idiot.

Looking into a mirror not liking what you see??

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#479389

Pentcho Valev wrote:
> Gravitational waves (ripples in spacetime) don't exist because spacetime doesn't exist,

You have no clue what you are talking about:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity>

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#479454

LIGO conspirators don't detect anything - they FAKE gravitational waves. There are grotesque rehearsals - conspirators secretly inject false signals, inform the gullible world about a great discovery, study scientists' reactions, finally fix noticed Achilles heels. The dress rehearsal occurred in 2010: 

"On September 16, 2010, a false signal - a so-called "blind injection" - was fed into both the Ligo and Virgo systems as part of an exercise to "test ... detection capabilities". At the time, the vast majority of the hundreds of scientists working on the equipment had no idea that they were being fed a dummy signal. The truth was not revealed until March the following year, by which time several papers about the supposed sensational discovery of gravitational waves were poised for publication. "While the scientists were disappointed that the discovery was not real, the success of the analysis was a compelling demonstration of the collaboration's readiness to detect gravitational waves," Ligo reported at the time. But take a look at the visualisation of the faked signal, says Dr Kiriushcheva, and compare it to the image apparently showing the collision of the twin black holes, seen on the second page of the recently-published discovery paper. "They look very, very similar," she says. "It means that they knew exactly what they wanted to get and this is suspicious for us: when you know what you want to get from science, usually you can get it." The apparent similarity is more curious because the faked event purported to show not a collision between two black holes, but the gravitational waves created by a neutron star spiralling into a black hole. The signals appear so similar, in fact, that Dr Kiriushcheva questions whether the "true" signal might actually have been an echo of the fake, "stored in the computer system from when they turned off the equipment five years before"."  http://www.thenational.ae/arts-life/the-review/why-albert-einstein-continues-to-make-waves-as-black-holes-collide#full 

LIGO's 2010 dress rehearsal: A few conspirators ("expert administrators") injected a false signal, deceived everybody, and misled astronomers into wasting time and money on the fake. Remarkably, "this became particularly useful starting in September 2015": 

"...a blind injection test where only a select few expert administrators are able to put a fake signal in the data, maintaining strict confidentiality. They did just that in the early morning hours of 16 September 2010. Automated data analyses alerted us to an extraordinary event within eight minutes of data collection, and within 45 minutes we had our astronomer colleagues with optical telescopes imaging the area we estimated the gravitational wave to have come from. Since it came from the direction of the Canis Major constellation, this event picked up the nickname of the "Big Dog Event". For months we worked on vetting this candidate gravitational wave detection, extracting parameters that described the source, and even wrote a paper. Finally, at the next collaboration meeting, after all the work had been cataloged and we voted unanimously to publish the paper the next day. However, it was revealed immediately after the vote to be an injection and that our estimated parameters for the simulated source were accurate. Again, there was no detection, but we learned a great deal about our abilities to know when we detected a gravitational wave and that we can do science with the data. This became particularly useful starting in September 2015."  https://www.researchgate.net/blog/post/a-null-result-is-not-a-failure

Pentcho Valev

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#479553

On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Pentcho Valev wrote:

<snip repetitive nonsense>

I don't suppose you are aware that during the second observing run,
five events were jointly detected by the U.S. LIGO and Italian VIRGO 
groups during the three-and-a-half weeks that they were simultaneously
on line. http://www.virgo-gw.eu/

Your hypothesized conspiracy is now international in scope.

Quite amazing that they could manage such a thing, hmmmm?

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#479555

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:20:15 AM UTC-8, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> 
> <snip repetitive nonsense>
> 
> I don't suppose you are aware that during the second observing run,
> five events were jointly detected by the U.S. LIGO and Italian VIRGO 
> groups during the three-and-a-half weeks that they were simultaneously
> on line. http://www.virgo-gw.eu/

Awareness don't enter into it :-)

--
Jan

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#479557

JanPB wrote:

> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:20:15 AM UTC-8, Prokaryotic Caspase
> Homolog wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> 
>> <snip repetitive nonsense>
>> 
>> I don't suppose you are aware that during the second observing run,
>> five events were jointly detected by the U.S. LIGO and Italian VIRGO
>> groups during the three-and-a-half weeks that they were simultaneously
>> on line. http://www.virgo-gw.eu/
> 
> Awareness don't enter into it

second observing run -> bullshit squared. Class Struggle, that's all. 
Without which, no monthly pay check is possible.

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#479560

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:41:33 AM UTC-8, Rich Carpenter wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:20:15 AM UTC-8, Prokaryotic Caspase
> > Homolog wrote:
> >> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >> 
> >> <snip repetitive nonsense>
> >> 
> >> I don't suppose you are aware that during the second observing run,
> >> five events were jointly detected by the U.S. LIGO and Italian VIRGO
> >> groups during the three-and-a-half weeks that they were simultaneously
> >> on line. http://www.virgo-gw.eu/
> > 
> > Awareness don't enter into it
> 
> second observing run -> bullshit squared. Class Struggle, that's all. 
> Without which, no monthly pay check is possible.

Doubtful.

--
Jan

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#479635

JanPB wrote:

> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:41:33 AM UTC-8, Rich Carpenter wrote:
>> JanPB wrote:
>> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:20:15 AM UTC-8, Prokaryotic
>> > Caspase Homolog wrote:
>> >> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Pentcho Valev
>> >> wrote:
>> >> <snip repetitive nonsense>
>> >> I don't suppose you are aware that during the second observing run,
>> >> five events were jointly detected by the U.S. LIGO and Italian VIRGO
>> >> groups during the three-and-a-half weeks that they were
>> >> simultaneously on line. http://www.virgo-gw.eu/
>> > 
>> > Awareness don't enter into it
>> 
>> second observing run -> bullshit squared. Class Struggle, that's all.
>> Without which, no monthly pay check is possible.
> 
> Doubtful.

You can't have visiting professors without Class Struggle, that's for sure.

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#479581

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 1:36:38 PM UTC-6, JanPB wrote:
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:20:15 AM UTC-8, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > 
> > <snip repetitive nonsense>
> > 
> > I don't suppose you are aware that during the second observing run,
> > five events were jointly detected by the U.S. LIGO and Italian VIRGO 
> > groups during the three-and-a-half weeks that they were simultaneously
> > on line. http://www.virgo-gw.eu/
> 
> Awareness don't enter into it :-)

Of course, GW170817 involved a conspiracy of researchers operating 
70 or so ground and space-based instruments operated by multiple
countries. Just goes to show you how deep the corruption goes. It's
deeper than the Freemasons, the New World Order, the Deep State,
New Coke and the second Ali-Liston fight combined. 

The only conspiracy I know of more pervasive would be the "Round Earth"
conspiracy. 

                 *** THE EARTH IS FLAT!!! ***

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#479583

Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog escrito 

Of course, GW170817 involved a conspiracy of researchers operating 
70 or so ground and space-based instruments operated by multiple 
countries. Just goes to show you how deep the corruption goes. It's 
deeper than the Freemasons, the New World Order

Freemason NWO is a real plan

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EI16Mbiwdjg

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VtlO39wIRWs

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0ItrTVPpkxo

https://www.collive.com/pics/s_nf_7597_47997.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/70Z_a8wiRQY/hqdefault.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hFjZkVMMEJ4/UBnLytKYvRI/AAAAAAABGYA/pY25mV2O2F8/s1600/120729_romney_israel_660.jpg

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LftGZX3ve2g

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#479584

Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog escrito 

Of course, GW170817 involved a conspiracy of researchers operating 
70 or so ground and space-based instruments operated by multiple 
countries. Just goes to show you how deep the corruption goes. It's 
deeper than the Freemasons, the New World Order 

Freemason NWO is a real plan 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fTv3kvL59hI

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EI16Mbiwdjg 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VtlO39wIRWs 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0ItrTVPpkxo 

https://www.collive.com/pics/s_nf_7597_47997.jpg 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/70Z_a8wiRQY/hqdefault.jpg 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hFjZkVMMEJ4/UBnLytKYvRI/AAAAAAABGYA/pY25mV2O2F8/s1600/120729_romney_israel_660.jpg 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LftGZX3ve2g 

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#479585

Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog escrito 

Of course, GW170817 involved a conspiracy of researchers operating 
70 or so ground and space-based instruments operated by multiple 
countries. Just goes to show you how deep the corruption goes. It's 
deeper than the Freemasons, the New World Order 

Freemason NWO is a real plan 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fTv3kvL59hI 

https://vimeo.com/277927405

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EI16Mbiwdjg 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VtlO39wIRWs 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0ItrTVPpkxo 

https://www.collive.com/pics/s_nf_7597_47997.jpg 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/70Z_a8wiRQY/hqdefault.jpg 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hFjZkVMMEJ4/UBnLytKYvRI/AAAAAAABGYA/pY25mV2O2F8/s1600/120729_romney_israel_660.jpg 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LftGZX3ve2g 

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#479363

On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:28:26 AM UTC-8, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> "On 8:41 am EDT August 17, 2017, LIGO detected a new gravitational wave source, dubbed GW170817 to mark its discovery date. Just two seconds later NASA's Fermi satellite detected a weak pulse of gamma rays from the same location of the sky."  https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2017-30
> 
> "The same location" is an Achilles' heel. 

Your opinion means nothing solely because of how you carry yourself around here.

--
Jan

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#479373

JanPB wrote:

> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:28:26 AM UTC-8, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> "On 8:41 am EDT August 17, 2017, LIGO detected a new gravitational wave
>> source, dubbed GW170817 to mark its discovery date. Just two seconds
>> later NASA's Fermi satellite detected a weak pulse of gamma rays from
>> the same location of the sky." 
>> https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2017-30
>> 
>> "The same location" is an Achilles' heel.
> 
> Your opinion means nothing solely because of how you carry yourself
> around here.

China plans to grow flowers and silkworms on the dark side of the moon 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/13/china-plans-grow-flowers-silkworms-dark-side-moon/

Watching them realizing the "dark-side" of the moon is 
not dark, to their potato entrepreneurship.

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