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TAI twins

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First post2016-07-21 02:25 -0700
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  TAI twins mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-21 02:25 -0700
    Re: TAI twins moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-21 19:34 +0000
      Re: TAI twins Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-21 22:55 +0200
        Re: TAI twins JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 16:37 -0700
          Re: TAI twins moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-22 00:46 +0000
            Re: TAI twins mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-22 01:04 -0700
          Re: TAI twins mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-21 23:18 -0700
            Re: TAI twins JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 00:29 -0700

#388121 — TAI twins

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-07-21 02:25 -0700
SubjectTAI twins
Message-ID<9ed1cd24-257a-4ef8-9a22-1f454f5cc18c@googlegroups.com>
W dniu środa, 20 lipca 2016 19:50:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Michael Moroney napisał:

> Depends on the use.  99.9% of people need to keep synched
> with the earth's cycles, better add the leap seconds and
> use UT1.  Fancy scientific stuff has to use TAI time as
> the earth is not accurate enough, and leap seconds would do
> bad things.

OK. So scientist use TAI time...
Do you like gedanken? Suppose we have 2 identical twins.
At the TAI moment 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000
one of them is launched. He travels with great speed
blahblahblahblahblah and returns.
For stationary twins it's now TAI  04.02.2023 
12:00:00.00000000000000000. What is the TAI for
moving twins?

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#388140

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-21 19:34 +0000
Message-ID<nmr84o$o6n$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#388121
mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:

>OK. So scientist use TAI time...
>Do you like gedanken? Suppose we have 2 identical twins.
>At the TAI moment 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000
>one of them is launched. He travels with great speed
>blahblahblahblahblah and returns.
>For stationary twins it's now TAI  04.02.2023
>12:00:00.00000000000000000. What is the TAI for
>moving twins?

They will agree on the TAI time once both are on Earth.
But the travelling twin will still be younger.

How about this: At 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000 I climb
into my time machine and travel into the future, to 24.02.2023
12:00:00.00000000000000000. I experience exactly one hour of
elapsed time (according to my wristwatch) inside the time machine
while travelling into the future.

How much will I have aged?  1) 3 years; 2) 1 hour; 3) Some other amount.

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#388147

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-07-21 22:55 +0200
Message-ID<nmrcse$tpu$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#388140

Użytkownik "Michael Moroney"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:nmr84o$o6n$2@pcls7.std.com...

mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:

>OK. So scientist use TAI time...
>Do you like gedanken? Suppose we have 2 identical twins.
>At the TAI moment 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000
>one of them is launched. He travels with great speed
>blahblahblahblahblah and returns.
>For stationary twins it's now TAI  04.02.2023
>12:00:00.00000000000000000. What is the TAI for
>moving twins?

|They will agree on the TAI time once both are on Earth.
|But the travelling twin will still be younger.

Yeah, I know your idiot guru told you.
Clocks have different opinion. Akso these TAI clocks
used for "fancy scientific stuff".



|How about this: At 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000 I climb
|into my time machine and travel into the future, to 24.02.2023
|12:00:00.00000000000000000. I experience exactly one hour of
|elapsed time (according to my wristwatch) inside the time machine
|while travelling into the future.

Yeah. Time machine. A moronic phantasmagories of a brainwashed
moron. Wristwatch, you say? According to my wristwatch I didn't
experience any elapsed time for some weeks. I must buy a new one:(

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#388152

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-21 16:37 -0700
Message-ID<f5f2da37-f661-4afc-849d-2dc42f8d7ac5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388147
On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:55:43 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Użytkownik "Michael Moroney"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:nmr84o$o6n$2@pcls7.std.com...
> 
> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> 
> >OK. So scientist use TAI time...
> >Do you like gedanken? Suppose we have 2 identical twins.
> >At the TAI moment 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000
> >one of them is launched. He travels with great speed
> >blahblahblahblahblah and returns.
> >For stationary twins it's now TAI  04.02.2023
> >12:00:00.00000000000000000. What is the TAI for
> >moving twins?
> 
> |They will agree on the TAI time once both are on Earth.
> |But the travelling twin will still be younger.
> 
> Yeah, I know your idiot guru told you.
> Clocks have different opinion. Akso these TAI clocks
> used for "fancy scientific stuff".
> 
> 
> 
> |How about this: At 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000 I climb
> |into my time machine and travel into the future, to 24.02.2023
> |12:00:00.00000000000000000. I experience exactly one hour of
> |elapsed time (according to my wristwatch) inside the time machine
> |while travelling into the future.
> 
> Yeah. Time machine. A moronic phantasmagories of a brainwashed
> moron. Wristwatch, you say? According to my wristwatch I didn't
> experience any elapsed time for some weeks. I must buy a new one:(

Hey Michael, it's an interesting study in schizophrenia or something
similar.

--
Jan

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#388154

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-22 00:46 +0000
Message-ID<nmrqcq$b3h$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#388152
JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> writes:

>On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:55:43 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wo=C5=BAniak wrote:
>> U=C5=BCytkownik "Michael Moroney"  napisa=C5=82 w wiadomo=C5=9Bci grup=20
>> dyskusyjnych:nmr84o$o6n$2@pcls7.std.com...

>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:

>> >OK. So scientist use TAI time...
>> >Do you like gedanken? Suppose we have 2 identical twins.
>> >At the TAI moment 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000
>> >one of them is launched. He travels with great speed
>> >blahblahblahblahblah and returns.
>> >For stationary twins it's now TAI  04.02.2023
>> >12:00:00.00000000000000000. What is the TAI for
>> >moving twins?

>> |They will agree on the TAI time once both are on Earth.
>> |But the travelling twin will still be younger.

>> Yeah, I know your idiot guru told you.
>> Clocks have different opinion. Akso these TAI clocks
>> used for "fancy scientific stuff".

>> |How about this: At 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000 I climb
>> |into my time machine and travel into the future, to 24.02.2023
>> |12:00:00.00000000000000000. I experience exactly one hour of
>> |elapsed time (according to my wristwatch) inside the time machine
>> |while travelling into the future.

>> Yeah. Time machine. A moronic phantasmagories of a brainwashed
>> moron. Wristwatch, you say? According to my wristwatch I didn't
>> experience any elapsed time for some weeks. I must buy a new one:(

>Hey Michael, it's an interesting study in schizophrenia or something
>similar.

I know. I like arguing with kooks.  I've mentioned my interest in arguing
with kooks many times.  I have learned a bit about abnormal psychology
from sci.physics.

Eventually I will get bored of this kook and start kookwatching some other
one.

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#388171

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-07-22 01:04 -0700
Message-ID<09dd2305-d33f-4d62-bf2d-019263aeb0ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388154
W dniu piątek, 22 lipca 2016 02:47:10 UTC+2 użytkownik Michael Moroney napisał:

> Eventually I will get bored of this kook and start kookwatching some other
> one.

It's always boring, when your ass is brutally
kicked in a game you imagine you master. Yeah,
go somewhere else, to a kook you can kick as
easily, as I can kick you.

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#388158

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-07-21 23:18 -0700
Message-ID<fedc7e23-ef89-45ec-ac59-da9cde381f67@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388152
W dniu piątek, 22 lipca 2016 01:57:20 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:55:43 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > Użytkownik "Michael Moroney"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> > dyskusyjnych:nmr84o$o6n$2@pcls7.std.com...
> > 
> > mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> > 
> > >OK. So scientist use TAI time...
> > >Do you like gedanken? Suppose we have 2 identical twins.
> > >At the TAI moment 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000
> > >one of them is launched. He travels with great speed
> > >blahblahblahblahblah and returns.
> > >For stationary twins it's now TAI  04.02.2023
> > >12:00:00.00000000000000000. What is the TAI for
> > >moving twins?
> > 
> > |They will agree on the TAI time once both are on Earth.
> > |But the travelling twin will still be younger.
> > 
> > Yeah, I know your idiot guru told you.
> > Clocks have different opinion. Akso these TAI clocks
> > used for "fancy scientific stuff".
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > |How about this: At 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000 I climb
> > |into my time machine and travel into the future, to 24.02.2023
> > |12:00:00.00000000000000000. I experience exactly one hour of
> > |elapsed time (according to my wristwatch) inside the time machine
> > |while travelling into the future.
> > 
> > Yeah. Time machine. A moronic phantasmagories of a brainwashed
> > moron. Wristwatch, you say? According to my wristwatch I didn't
> > experience any elapsed time for some weeks. I must buy a new one:(
> 
> Hey Michael, it's an interesting study in schizophrenia or something
> similar.

Rave, moron, and spit. What else can a moron do.

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#388167

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-22 00:29 -0700
Message-ID<b1b244b2-7ac5-4e0b-9f9a-23aa2cc17fa9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#388158
On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 11:18:23 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 22 lipca 2016 01:57:20 UTC+2 użytkownik JanPB napisał:
> > On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:55:43 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > > Użytkownik "Michael Moroney"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> > > dyskusyjnych:nmr84o$o6n$2@pcls7.std.com...
> > > 
> > > mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> > > 
> > > >OK. So scientist use TAI time...
> > > >Do you like gedanken? Suppose we have 2 identical twins.
> > > >At the TAI moment 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000
> > > >one of them is launched. He travels with great speed
> > > >blahblahblahblahblah and returns.
> > > >For stationary twins it's now TAI  04.02.2023
> > > >12:00:00.00000000000000000. What is the TAI for
> > > >moving twins?
> > > 
> > > |They will agree on the TAI time once both are on Earth.
> > > |But the travelling twin will still be younger.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, I know your idiot guru told you.
> > > Clocks have different opinion. Akso these TAI clocks
> > > used for "fancy scientific stuff".
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > |How about this: At 24.02.2020 12:00:00.00000000000000000 I climb
> > > |into my time machine and travel into the future, to 24.02.2023
> > > |12:00:00.00000000000000000. I experience exactly one hour of
> > > |elapsed time (according to my wristwatch) inside the time machine
> > > |while travelling into the future.
> > > 
> > > Yeah. Time machine. A moronic phantasmagories of a brainwashed
> > > moron. Wristwatch, you say? According to my wristwatch I didn't
> > > experience any elapsed time for some weeks. I must buy a new one:(
> > 
> > Hey Michael, it's an interesting study in schizophrenia or something
> > similar.
> 
> Rave, moron, and spit. What else can a moron do.

Yes, this is all you can do.

--
Jan

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