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  irreproducibility crisis The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-17 10:01 -0700
    irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-17 10:47 -0700
    Re: irreproducibility crisis The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-17 11:03 -0700
    Re: irreproducibility crisis Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-18 16:39 +0200
      Re: irreproducibility crisis The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-18 10:31 -0700
        Re: irreproducibility crisis Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-19 18:46 +0200
          Re: irreproducibility crisis Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 18:53 -0700
            Re: irreproducibility crisis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-19 21:22 -0700
          Re: irreproducibility crisis The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-19 23:45 -0700
            Re: irreproducibility crisis Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-20 17:54 +0200
              Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 09:06 -0700
                Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 09:21 -0700
                  Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 09:55 -0700
                    Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:02 -0700
                      Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 11:00 -0700
                Re: irreproducibility crisis Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-21 16:47 +0200
                  Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-24 08:46 -0700
              Re: irreproducibility crisis Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-24 10:33 -0500
                Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-24 08:51 -0700
              Re: irreproducibility crisis The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 09:01 -0700
                Re: irreproducibility crisis Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-24 18:39 +0200
                  Re: irreproducibility crisis The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 09:50 -0700
                    Re: irreproducibility crisis "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-24 09:59 -0700
                    Re: irreproducibility crisis Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-25 14:26 +0200

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#456223 — irreproducibility crisis

"Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
 John Ioannidis, now a professor of medicine at Stanford, made headlines with that claim in 2005. 
Since then, researchers have confirmed his skepticism by trying—and often failing—to reproduce many influential journal articles.  
Slowly, scientists are internalizing the lessons of this irreproducibility crisis."

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#456225

That is a “very fine Smelling Shart” you Sharted

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#456228

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
>  John Ioannidis, now a professor of medicine at Stanford, made headlines with that claim in 2005.
> Since then, researchers have confirmed his skepticism by trying—and often failing—to reproduce many influential journal articles.
> Slowly, scientists are internalizing the lessons of this irreproducibility crisis."



https://www.nas.org/projects/irreproducibility_report

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#456295

Am 17.04.2018 um 19:01 schrieb The Starmaker:
> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.

The problem is: they don't know which half....


TH

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#456330

Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 17.04.2018 um 19:01 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
> 
> The problem is: they don't know which half....
> 
> TH



you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
understand it.


All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...

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#456406

Am 18.04.2018 um 19:31 schrieb The Starmaker:

>>> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
>>
>> The problem is: they don't know which half....
>>
>> TH
>
>
>
> you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
> understand it.
>
>
> All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...
>

Well, there are many ways possible, if your intention is to disturb the 
readers mind.

First you need dogmas, that are blatantly wrong, but absolutely 
untouchable.

E.g. I'm a proponent of the so called 'Growing Earth' hypothesis. I have 
actually spent years on that subject and have written hundreds of 
messages to various forums. But my arguments are always rejected, since 
'it cannot be true, because it violates the laws'.

To question the 'laws' itself is prohibited and once a professional 
does, he will almost certainly loose his job.

Other 'law' is 'the universal speed limit of c'.

Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got 
fired).

We have also the Russian Podclednov, who found certain gravitational 
effects from spinning super-conductive rings (got banned and fired).

(This goes on and on and on...)


TH

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#456457

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 9:46:18 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 18.04.2018 um 19:31 schrieb The Starmaker:
> 
> >>> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
> >>
> >> The problem is: they don't know which half....
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> >
> > you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
> > understand it.
> >
> >
> > All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...
> >
> 
> Well, there are many ways possible, if your intention is to disturb the 
> readers mind.
> 
> First you need dogmas, that are blatantly wrong, but absolutely 
> untouchable.
> 
> E.g. I'm a proponent of the so called 'Growing Earth' hypothesis. I have 
> actually spent years on that subject and have written hundreds of 
> messages to various forums. But my arguments are always rejected, since 
> 'it cannot be true, because it violates the laws'.
> 
> To question the 'laws' itself is prohibited and once a professional 
> does, he will almost certainly loose his job.
> 
> Other 'law' is 'the universal speed limit of c'.
> 
> Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got 
> fired).
> 
> We have also the Russian Podclednov, who found certain gravitational 
> effects from spinning super-conductive rings (got banned and fired).
> 
> (This goes on and on and on...)
> 
> 
> TH


"Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got 
fired."

You can always tell a crank, because they have no respect for the truth.

They don't even start with facts. They just tell rumors and lies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly

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#456465

On Friday, 20 April 2018 03:53:41 UTC+2, Steve BH  wrote:
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 9:46:18 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > Am 18.04.2018 um 19:31 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > 
> > >>> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
> > >>
> > >> The problem is: they don't know which half....
> > >>
> > >> TH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
> > > understand it.
> > >
> > >
> > > All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...
> > >
> > 
> > Well, there are many ways possible, if your intention is to disturb the 
> > readers mind.
> > 
> > First you need dogmas, that are blatantly wrong, but absolutely 
> > untouchable.
> > 
> > E.g. I'm a proponent of the so called 'Growing Earth' hypothesis. I have 
> > actually spent years on that subject and have written hundreds of 
> > messages to various forums. But my arguments are always rejected, since 
> > 'it cannot be true, because it violates the laws'.
> > 
> > To question the 'laws' itself is prohibited and once a professional 
> > does, he will almost certainly loose his job.
> > 
> > Other 'law' is 'the universal speed limit of c'.
> > 
> > Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got 
> > fired).
> > 
> > We have also the Russian Podclednov, who found certain gravitational 
> > effects from spinning super-conductive rings (got banned and fired).
> > 
> > (This goes on and on and on...)
> > 
> > 
> > TH
> 
> 
> "Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got 
> fired."
> 
> You can always tell a crank, because they have no respect for the truth.
> 
> They don't even start with facts.

Facts announced by Great Guru! And his minions!!!

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#456466

Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 18.04.2018 um 19:31 schrieb The Starmaker:
> 
> >>> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
> >>
> >> The problem is: they don't know which half....
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> >
> > you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
> > understand it.
> >
> >
> > All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...
> >
> 
> Well, there are many ways possible, if your intention is to disturb the
> readers mind.
> 
> First you need dogmas, that are blatantly wrong, but absolutely
> untouchable.
> 
> E.g. I'm a proponent of the so called 'Growing Earth' hypothesis. I have
> actually spent years on that subject and have written hundreds of
> messages to various forums. But my arguments are always rejected, since
> 'it cannot be true, because it violates the laws'.
> 
> To question the 'laws' itself is prohibited and once a professional
> does, he will almost certainly loose his job.
> 
> Other 'law' is 'the universal speed limit of c'.
> 
> Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got
> fired).
> 
> We have also the Russian Podclednov, who found certain gravitational
> effects from spinning super-conductive rings (got banned and fired).
> 
> (This goes on and on and on...)
> 
> TH

according to Albert Einstein...'in his own words' he said:

'If you oppose my theories, you're an anti-semitic.'


http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf

""Why were men of science opposed
to your theory when you first made it
known ?"
"No men of science," he replied, em
phasizing the last'word, "were against
the theory."
"But there was some opposition?"
"Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
was purely political. Even the physi
cists who opposed my theory did so for
 political reasons?in my opinion, o'
 course."
"What do you mean when you say
the opposition was political?"
"Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""

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#456491

Am 20.04.2018 um 08:45 schrieb The Starmaker:

> ""Why were men of science opposed
> to your theory when you first made it
> known ?"
> "No men of science," he replied, em
> phasizing the last'word, "were against
> the theory."
> "But there was some opposition?"
> "Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
> was purely political. Even the physi
> cists who opposed my theory did so for
>  political reasons?in my opinion, o'
>  course."
> "What do you mean when you say
> the opposition was political?"
> "Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
> answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
>
Einstein was a promoter of Zionism and a Jew, but not a Semite.

Einstein was a German and born in Ulm.

'Semites' are people, that live in the middle east. You could (somehow) 
translate this terms with 'Arabs' (what Einstein wasn't).

Zionism is also not predominately Jewish, since Judaism is a religion 
and Zionism a political movement.

Main supporters of this movement have not been Jews (or Semites). E.g. 
Winston Churchill was a supporter of Zionism and he was not particularly 
religious.

The connection between ethnic groups, political movement and religion is 
actually more difficult than you think.

In a way Islam, Christianity and Judaism belong actually the same 
believe system called 'monotheism'.

A German historian named Karl Heinz Ohlig had found out, that the early 
Islam was a variant of the 'per-Nicean' Syrian Christianity, called 
'Arianism'.

The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the 
empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who 
belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the 
Dead Sea.

This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be 
praised'.

That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into 'Jesus'.

The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and 
changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries).

So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in 
many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved.

The Romans fused they local pantheon into the early Christian believe, 
which in the beginning was a variant of Judaism. Out came what we call 
'Catholicism'.

Against the early Christians ('Arians') revolted and were therefore 
prosecuted by the Romans.

They fled from Syria along the Silk Road to the Empire of the Sassanides 
and settled in Merv, which was then the largest city in the World.


TH

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#456492

Thomas Heger wrote

Einstein was a promoter of Zionism and a Jew, but not a Semite. 

Einstein was a German and born in Ulm. 

'Semites' are people, that live in the middle east. You could (somehow) 
translate this terms with 'Arabs' (what Einstein wasn't). 

Zionism is also not predominately Jewish, since Judaism is a religion 
and Zionism a political movement. 

Main supporters of this movement have not been Jews (or Semites). E.g. 
Winston Churchill was a supporter of Zionism and he was not particularly 
religious. 

The connection between ethnic groups, political movement and religion is 
actually more difficult than you think. 

In a way Islam, Christianity and Judaism belong actually the same 
believe system called 'monotheism'. 

A German historian named Karl Heinz Ohlig had found out, that the early 
Islam was a variant of the 'per-Nicean' Syrian Christianity, called 
'Arianism'. 

The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the 
empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who 
belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the 
Dead Sea. 

This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be 
praised'. 

That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into 'Jesus'. 

The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and 
changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries). 

So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in 
many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved. 

The Romans fused they local pantheon into the early Christian believe, 
which in the beginning was a variant of Judaism. Out came what we call 
'Catholicism'. 

Against the early Christians ('Arians') revolted and were therefore 
prosecuted by the Romans. 

They fled from Syria along the Silk Road to the Empire of the Sassanides 
and settled in Merv, which was then the largest city in the World. 


TH 

The Government Likes & Exploits Mainstream Religion as a tool of Social Control 

Trauma based mind control 

Scary Shadows in Plato’s Cave keeping the Prisoners working hard for the “Federal Reserve Note” & from attempting Escape the Prison. 

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#456493

The Government Likes & Exploits Mainstream Religion as a tool of Social Control 

Trauma based mind control 

Scary Shadows in Plato’s Cave keeping the Prisoners working hard for the “Federal Reserve Note” & from attempting Escape the Prison. 


(esau jacob isaac ishmael ) = (Judaism Islam & Christianity)

Just a “Family Feud”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esau

A representative of each Abrahamic Religion 

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#456494

Abraham > (Ishmael & (Isaac > Esau & Jacob))

Ishmael = Islam

Jacob is regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites.

Esau = Christianity 

All Exploited by (The Powers That Be) for Social Control & Exploitation of the Trusting Faithful  For Personal Gain & Leisure as Shanghai-ed Bond Servants in an Evil Hedonistic Disneyland to benefit only the Elite Oligarchy 

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#456495

CANNIBALISM

And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.

Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For My flesh is real food, and My blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood remains in Me, and I in him



Abraham > (Ishmael & (Isaac > Esau & Jacob)) 

Ishmael = Islam 

Jacob is regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites. 

Esau = Christianity 

All Exploited by (The Powers That Be) for Social Control & Exploitation of the Trusting Faithful  For Personal Gain & Leisure as Shanghai-ed Bond Servants in an Evil Hedonistic Disneyland to benefit only the Elite Oligarchy 

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#456501

#SatanTrump is a #ZioTraitor in Collusion with a Kabbal of Usurpers. 

CANNIBALISM 

And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. 

So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son. 

54Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 

55For My flesh is real food, and My blood is real drink. 

56Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood remains in Me, and I in him 




Abraham > (Ishmael & (Isaac > Esau & Jacob)) 

Ishmael = Islam 

Jacob is regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites. 

Esau = Christianity 

All Exploited by (The Powers That Be) for Social Control & Exploitation of the Trusting Faithful  For Personal Gain & Leisure as Shanghai-ed Bond Servants in an Evil Hedonistic Disneyland to benefit only the Elite Oligarchy 

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#456559

Am 20.04.2018 um 18:06 schrieb David (Kronos Prime) Fuller:
..
> The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the
> empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who
> belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the
> Dead Sea.
>
> This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be
> praised'.
>
> That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into 'Jesus'.
>
> The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and
> changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries).
>
> So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in
> many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved.
>
> The Romans fused they local pantheon into the early Christian believe,
> which in the beginning was a variant of Judaism. Out came what we call
> 'Catholicism'.
>
> Against the early Christians ('Arians') revolted and were therefore
> prosecuted by the Romans.
>
> They fled from Syria along the Silk Road to the Empire of the Sassanides
> and settled in Merv, which was then the largest city in the World.
>
>
> TH
>
> The Government Likes & Exploits Mainstream Religion as a tool of Social Control
>
> Trauma based mind control

Well... but which government tried to exploit which people? And by what 
means?

First we should distinguish between religion and politics. This is 
necessary, because the content of religion belongs to other realms than 
the question how to govern a state.

Also ethnic questions are not per se religious. So we exclude the 
question of ethnicity and nationality of the believers, too.

This would then simplify the question greatly and we concentrate on the 
'content' and what is actually meant be the believe system.

Islam, Judaism and Christianity are more or less the same, since they 
all worship some one and only divine entity, called 'Allah', God or YHW 
respectively.

They all have some kind of prophet (or more than one) and are also based 
on similar books.

The differences occur, once the nation and its government comes into 
play. We have Arabs (Islam), Babylonians and Egyptians (Judaism) and 
Greek and Romans (Christianity).

Now it would be wise to separate the  'common denominator' (what these 
religions have in common) from what apparently comes from the nations 
mentioned.

The latter is actually politics and could be treated like that.


TH

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#456815

Thomas Heger
Am 20.04.2018 um 18:06 schrieb David (Kronos Prime) Fuller: 
.. 
> The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the 
> empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who 
> belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the 
> Dead Sea. 
> 
> This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be 
> praised'. 
> 
> That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into 'Jesus'. 
> 
> The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and 
> changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries). 
> 
> So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in 
> many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved. 
> 
> The Romans fused they local pantheon into the early Christian believe, 
> which in the beginning was a variant of Judaism. Out came what we call 
> 'Catholicism'. 
> 
> Against the early Christians ('Arians') revolted and were therefore 
> prosecuted by the Romans. 
> 
> They fled from Syria along the Silk Road to the Empire of the Sassanides 
> and settled in Merv, which was then the largest city in the World. 
> 
> 
> TH 
> 
> The Government Likes & Exploits Mainstream Religion as a tool of Social Control 
> 
> Trauma based mind control 

Well... but which government tried to exploit which people? And by what 
means? 

First we should distinguish between religion and politics. This is 
necessary, because the content of religion belongs to other realms than 
the question how to govern a state. 

___________________


There is no necessary distinction between Government & religion as government controls the Value of all currency by way of the Federal Reserve. 

Government gives Tax Deductions to promote Religious Behavior & Thinking. 

Then the “citizens police Themselves” to (to avoid an eternity in a FIREY HELL) according to how the Preachers Indoctrinate the Congregations....

The Government likes religion because it promotes Irrational Mystical Thinking Controlled by Preacher experts  while Shame & Ridicule & Ostracism is rained down on the non-Compliant  rational free thinkers.  

Wave your proud Murican Flag & kiss govt boots ....

Or you’re an antisocial arrogant dangerous menace to society and driven out into the wilderness

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#456813

On 4/20/2018 10:54 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 20.04.2018 um 08:45 schrieb The Starmaker:
> 
>> ""Why were men of science opposed
>> to your theory when you first made it
>> known ?"
>> "No men of science," he replied, em
>> phasizing the last'word, "were against
>> the theory."
>> "But there was some opposition?"
>> "Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
>> was purely political. Even the physi
>> cists who opposed my theory did so for
>>  political reasons?in my opinion, o'
>>  course."
>> "What do you mean when you say
>> the opposition was political?"
>> "Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
>> answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
>>
> Einstein was a promoter of Zionism and a Jew, but not a Semite.
> 
> Einstein was a German and born in Ulm.
> 
> 'Semites' are people, that live in the middle east. You could (somehow)
> translate this terms with 'Arabs' (what Einstein wasn't).
> 
> Zionism is also not predominately Jewish, since Judaism is a religion
> and Zionism a political movement.
> 
> Main supporters of this movement have not been Jews (or Semites). E.g.
> Winston Churchill was a supporter of Zionism and he was not particularly
> religious.
> 
> The connection between ethnic groups, political movement and religion is
> actually more difficult than you think.

very true

> 
> In a way Islam, Christianity and Judaism belong actually the same
> believe system called 'monotheism'.

Islam got rid of 3 gods in 1 that the Christians have, major selling
point of islam is it has one god.

> 
> A German historian named Karl Heinz Ohlig had found out, that the early
> Islam was a variant of the 'per-Nicean' Syrian Christianity, called
> 'Arianism'.
> 
> The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the
> empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who
> belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the
> Dead Sea.
> 
> This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be
> praised'.
> 
> That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into
> 'Jesus'.
> 
> The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and
> changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries).
> 
> So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in
> many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved.

not so, Cathloics comes from the old and new "Bible",
Islam from the "Koran", and they are completely different.

but go back to  Zoroastrianism, many of the beliefs the 3 above, started
with them

> 
> The Romans fused they local pantheon into the early Christian believe,
> which in the beginning was a variant of Judaism. Out came what we call
> 'Catholicism'.
> 
> Against the early Christians ('Arians') revolted and were therefore
> prosecuted by the Romans.
> 
> They fled from Syria along the Silk Road to the Empire of the Sassanides
> and settled in Merv, which was then the largest city in the World.
> 
> 
> TH
> 
> 

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#456818

Sergio wrote 

very true 

> 
> In a way Islam, Christianity and Judaism belong actually the same 
> believe system called 'monotheism'. 

Islam got rid of 3 gods in 1 that the Christians have

Francis Bacon wrote the entire KJV Bible for the Pederastic King James  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon

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Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 20.04.2018 um 08:45 schrieb The Starmaker:
> 
> > ""Why were men of science opposed
> > to your theory when you first made it
> > known ?"
> > "No men of science," he replied, em
> > phasizing the last'word, "were against
> > the theory."
> > "But there was some opposition?"
> > "Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
> > was purely political. Even the physi
> > cists who opposed my theory did so for
> >  political reasons?in my opinion, o'
> >  course."
> > "What do you mean when you say
> > the opposition was political?"
> > "Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
> > answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
> >
> Einstein was a promoter of Zionism and a Jew, but not a Semite.


As I see it, it's the opposite:
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=31LfWoqtD4WytQW456XwAQ&q=einstein+against+zionism+letter&oq=einstein+against+zionism+letter&gs_l=psy-ab.12...752.12120.0.13828.30.28.0.0.0.0.830.1094.2-1j6-1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..28.2.1092...0j0i131k1j0i131i46k1j46i131k1.0.e-bOEIFVpb4


Einstein was against...zionism. Where do you get your info from?


> 
> Einstein was a German and born in Ulm.
> 
> 'Semites' are people, that live in the middle east. You could (somehow)
> translate this terms with 'Arabs' (what Einstein wasn't).
> 
> Zionism is also not predominately Jewish, since Judaism is a religion
> and Zionism a political movement.
> 
> Main supporters of this movement have not been Jews (or Semites). E.g.
> Winston Churchill was a supporter of Zionism and he was not particularly
> religious.
> 
> The connection between ethnic groups, political movement and religion is
> actually more difficult than you think.
> 
> In a way Islam, Christianity and Judaism belong actually the same
> believe system called 'monotheism'.
> 
> A German historian named Karl Heinz Ohlig had found out, that the early
> Islam was a variant of the 'per-Nicean' Syrian Christianity, called
> 'Arianism'.
> 
> The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the
> empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who
> belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the
> Dead Sea.
> 
> This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be
> praised'.
> 
> That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into 'Jesus'.
> 
> The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and
> changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries).
> 
> So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in
> many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved.
> 
> The Romans fused they local pantheon into the early Christian believe,
> which in the beginning was a variant of Judaism. Out came what we call
> 'Catholicism'.
> 
> Against the early Christians ('Arians') revolted and were therefore
> prosecuted by the Romans.
> 
> They fled from Syria along the Silk Road to the Empire of the Sassanides
> and settled in Merv, which was then the largest city in the World.
> 
> TH

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