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Atheism is Witchcraft

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
Last post2016-09-14 03:58 -0400
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  Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 07:31 +0200
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 12:57 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 05:59 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 08:57 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:04 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 14:26 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 19:18 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 12:37 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 22:43 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:14 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 22:18 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 06:45 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 23:56 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:16 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:07 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 22:00 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:53 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 20:15 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 01:34 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:23 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-15 11:29 -0600
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 20:44 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-16 06:34 +1000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 20:02 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 19:05 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 10:25 +1000
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 22:11 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:25 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 06:20 +0200
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:57 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:16 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:01 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-17 11:54 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:55 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 04:26 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 16:15 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 11:29 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 09:59 +1000
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:25 +0200
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 20:56 -0600
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:48 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:11 +1000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:28 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 11:37 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:11 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 12:12 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 03:57 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 19:14 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 10:37 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 09:28 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-22 00:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 03:50 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 18:17 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 02:19 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 02:35 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 10:13 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 12:37 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-23 14:59 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 10:35 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 05:55 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:13 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 19:20 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 17:16 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 06:44 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-25 22:40 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 17:56 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 23:09 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-27 19:02 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 20:23 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 10:18 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 03:34 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 11:41 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 20:34 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 04:48 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-28 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-29 10:07 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-29 08:04 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:43 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-27 19:06 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-27 05:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-27 20:28 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 01:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 23:55 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:06 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-29 00:03 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:38 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:37 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-29 15:48 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 23:59 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 11:50 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-27 22:30 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:07 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:02 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-27 10:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:08 +1000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:53 +0200
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:36 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 17:27 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:33 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-20 09:40 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 03:58 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 12:05 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 04:10 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:31 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 00:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 11:51 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:14 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 23:38 +0200
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:31 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-21 11:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 04:16 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 21:42 +0200
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 16:22 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:11 +1000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 08:34 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-21 23:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 17:37 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 22:23 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 12:38 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 06:20 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 02:28 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 22:11 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-22 22:25 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 04:36 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 16:18 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 02:38 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:20 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 09:30 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:17 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-23 02:31 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 10:47 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-23 18:43 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 04:29 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:29 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:20 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-23 16:16 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-23 15:05 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-24 16:26 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 05:32 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 15:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 15:30 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-22 18:14 -0500
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:36 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:55 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:02 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 17:41 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 10:18 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 11:26 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 04:51 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 22:53 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 16:35 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:22 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 22:52 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 09:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-23 03:04 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 21:08 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-24 12:14 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-24 16:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-25 11:59 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-25 13:58 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-23 12:52 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 21:49 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-25 23:23 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-26 10:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 04:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-26 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 23:23 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-27 10:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-27 04:57 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 09:30 +1000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-20 20:12 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 21:47 +0100
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-17 16:28 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 18:52 +0200
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:57 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:20 +0000
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:20 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:36 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:06 +0200
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:22 +0200
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 23:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 00:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 05:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 14:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:13 +1000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:03 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-09-22 11:51 -0500
                                                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-22 11:04 -0600
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 14:10 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 04:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 16:04 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 11:31 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-01 20:26 -0500
                          To A Atheism The Science Of Language Is Rrelativity "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-19 15:57 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:13 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 07:01 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 22:29 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:21 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:05 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 18:59 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 00:23 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-19 17:48 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:00 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:56 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-13 07:49 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 18:03 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 21:00 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 06:27 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 02:45 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:14 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 06:44 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 12:31 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 07:57 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 15:02 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:02 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:38 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:00 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:29 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:55 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 14:57 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-15 19:37 +0100
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-14 01:34 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:16 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 19:45 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 14:43 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 07:01 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:58 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 23:13 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:49 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:00 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 06:40 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
    Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:15 -0700
      Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:33 -0700
        Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:37 -0700
          Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:05 -0700
            Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:27 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-09 05:52 +0200
                                                                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-10-09 00:09 -0600
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Hello Thomas <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 07:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-08 07:15 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-10-08 12:36 -0600
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-08 22:56 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-10-08 15:33 -0600
                                                              Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-09 05:42 +0200
                                                                Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft A Nony Mouse <abc@cef.ghi> - 2016-10-09 00:14 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
                                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:41 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:36 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 04:56 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 05:03 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:17 -0600
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:25 +1000
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 22:06 +0200
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:18 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 13:56 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 16:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-25 11:04 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:23 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 18:54 +0200
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 09:59 +1000
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 07:35 +0200
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:27 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-27 06:10 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 12:19 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 00:39 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 14:07 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400

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#394140

FromBob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-09-28 18:10 +0000
Message-ID<9odmkd.sfr.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#394064
Alex W. <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28/09/2016 04:23, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 27.09.2016 11:02, schrieb Alex W.:
>> 
>>>>>> The text is about the Austrian Empire. In the German language the
>>>>>> citizens of Austria are called 'Österreicher' (Austrians).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 'Deutscher' (German) means 'citizen of Germany' only. But meant in the
>>>>>> English version is 'Speaker of the German language'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But the German language has no word for 'Speaker of the German
>>>>>> language', since obviously 'Speaker of the German language' would
>>>>>> address the speaker himself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Der deutschsprachige".
>>>> 
>>>> No!
>>>> 
>>>> There is actually no Word for what you try to express. The sum of all
>>>> speakers of German could be called 'Deutscher', if that is what you want
>>>> to say.
>>> 
>>> You claimed that there was no word in German for "speaker of the German
>>> language". I corrected you.
>>> 
>> 
>> The word does not mean 'person who speaks German' but
>> 'Film/book/newspaper in German language'.
> 
> Schwachsinn.  "Der deutschsprachige Zeitgenosse/Freund/Mitbürger" ist 
> genauso gutes Deutsch wie "die deutschsprachige Zeitung".  Beides geht. 
> Beides ist normales, korrektes, umgangssprachliches Deutsch.
> 
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But it is a very unusual idea, since Germans think mainly in
>>>> territories. So people from a certain region are named after that
>>>> region.
>>>> 
>>>> E.g. 'Pole' means citizen of Poland.
>>>> 
>>>> If a former citizen of Poland gets German citizenship he is called
>>>> Deutscher, because Germany ( Deutschland) is a territory. And if you
>>>> settle there, you are named after this territory.
>>>> 
>>>> For instance soccer hero Lukas Podolski is regarded as German, even if
>>>> he stems from Poland.
>>> 
>>> Podolski, to the German nationalist, was always a German. His
>>> grandparents were "Reichsbürger", meaning they were ethnic German --
>>> Schlesier, to be precise.
>> 
>> 
>> Podolski stems from Poland and was born in Gliwice.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lukas_Podolski
>> 
>> "Podolski was born to Waldemar Podolski and Krystyna Podolska, a former
>> member of the Poland national handball team in the Silesian industrial
>> town of Gliwice (near Katowice), Poland."
> 
> Gliwice hieß früher Gleiwitz.
> Gleiwitz war früher eine deutschsprachige Stadt, bevölkert von 
> Deutschstämmigen.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Silesians were not Germans, but Silesia was a part of the KuK
>> Monarchy, which was annexed by Prussia.
>> 
>> So the people in Silesia were a mixture of Bohemians, Polish, Austrians
>> and Sudets. All of these people had been part of AUSTRIA!
>> 
>> The Prussians had conquered Silesia, which did not make Silesians ethnic
>> Germans.
> 
> Schlesien war seit 1742 Preußisch, und damit seit 1871 deutsch.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Similar the Sudets were legal citizens of the Czech Republic and had
>> Austrian roots, since Bohemia was also a part of Austria.
>> 
>> Gliwice, btw, had the German name 'Gleiwitz'
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliwice
>> 
>> It was the town were WW II began.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
>> 
>> (Nazi false flag 'terror attack')
> 
> None of this is relevant to those who think in terms of culture and 
> ethnicity rather than nationality.
> 
> Even the Federal Republic of Germany had policies along those lines, 
> accepting without question or test (and issuing German citizenship) many 
> hundreds of thousands of ethnic Volga Germans, Siebenbürger Germans and 
> anyone else who claimed German ancestry.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Queen on the other hand is not regarded as German, since she lives
>>>> in England, (despite that e.g. Mountbatten means 'Battenberg')
>>> 
>>> Which may be true for most people today, but it is not correct for those
>>> who think in racial terms, or those who subscribe to the idea of
>>> Grossdeutschland. It was not true for Hitler or those who believed in
>>> his screwy ideology. They thought in terms of culture and language, and
>>> they made no difference between an Austrian, a Volga German or a
>>> Sudetendeutscher.
>> 
>> 
>> It's certainly interesting to hear about 'Grossdeutschland' from an
>> Englishman.
> 
> Read some history.
> 
> Then get back to us.

Maybe he doesn't understand how many of today's Brits have ethnic German
ancestors? 

He like all to many people today confound the words ethnicity and
nationality.

>>>>>> This is similar to 'English', which is also a language and a
>>>>>> nationality. So a Canadian would not say 'English' about himself, but
>>>>>> 'Canadian', even if he speaks English.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But until very recently indeed, it was quite common for a Briton to use
>>>>> "England" and "English" when referring to the whole of the United
>>>>> Kingdom. In fact, this long-standing habit of conflating England and
>>>>> Britain is at the root of our current national confusion and search for
>>>>> a specific English identity distinct from the British one.
>>>>> 
>>>> Great Britten is a union of England, Wales and Scottland.
>>>> 
>>>> Scotsmen always said they are Scottish. (People from Wales I don't know
>>>> enough to make a statement.)
>>> 
>>> Which was not really an issue back when "Mein Kampf" was written.

I thought the Welshman problem appeared briefly during WW2 and quickly put
down by Churchill?

>> Yes, maybe. But that was a comment about your statement, not about 'My
>> Struggle'. You wrote the phrase "...But until very recently indeed, .."
> 
> Which is quite correct.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> It is somehow possible, but 'old school'. Usually you use the plural, if
>>>> you want to address people from a certain nation.
>>>> 
>>>> ('Die Engländer trinken gerne Tee').
>>>> 
>>>> The German article 'der' is more than the English 'the' specifically
>>>> male.
>>>> 
>>>> So 'Der Engländer.. ' -meant as an example for a multitude of people-
>>>> means a multitude of males from England.
>>>> 
>>>> 'Die Engländerin.. ' means females only.
>>>> 
>>>> But the specific article (der,die, das) is not that often used for
>>>> descriptions of groups.
>>> 
>>> It is quite acceptable as a phrase.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, it is acceptable. But you can accept almost everything, if you are
>> able to identify, what the speaker wants.
>> 
>> But 'acceptable' is not exactly the same as 'well written'.
>> 
>> The book 'Mein Kampf' is more of the type 'acceptable'. To read it is
>> actually a pain in the a***.
>> 
>> After two pages you get hopelessly sedated and have to leave the book
>> for an hour or two, get some fresh air and a cup of coffee.
>> 
>> But this is the quality of the German version alone.
>> 
>> The English version is MUCH better written and much easier to read.
> 
> Which can be said about a great many books originally written in German. 
>  I recommend you try reading Thomas Mann in the German and then the 
> English translation.
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms. 
 John Cleese on Stupidity  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

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#394198

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-09-29 10:07 +1000
Message-ID<e534a2F68fdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394140
On 29/09/2016 04:10, Bob Officer wrote:
> Alex W. <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 28/09/2016 04:23, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am 27.09.2016 11:02, schrieb Alex W.:
>>>


>>>>> The Queen on the other hand is not regarded as German, since she lives
>>>>> in England, (despite that e.g. Mountbatten means 'Battenberg')
>>>>
>>>> Which may be true for most people today, but it is not correct for those
>>>> who think in racial terms, or those who subscribe to the idea of
>>>> Grossdeutschland. It was not true for Hitler or those who believed in
>>>> his screwy ideology. They thought in terms of culture and language, and
>>>> they made no difference between an Austrian, a Volga German or a
>>>> Sudetendeutscher.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's certainly interesting to hear about 'Grossdeutschland' from an
>>> Englishman.
>>
>> Read some history.
>>
>> Then get back to us.
>
> Maybe he doesn't understand how many of today's Brits have ethnic German
> ancestors?
>
> He like all to many people today confound the words ethnicity and
> nationality.

He not only confuses ethnicity and nationality, he insists on evaluating 
the piece of racist cant that is "Mein Kampf" from a modern perspective, 
totally neglecting the fact that Hitler and many of his contemporaries 
quite simply did not think in today's terms.  Race (and to a lesser 
degree culture) were paramount in their thinking.  Nationality was 
largely irrelevant to them, at best an obstacle to the unity of a racial 
and cultural entity that was to be overcome and eradicated.

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#394220

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-29 08:04 +0200
Message-ID<e53p84Fal8sU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394198
Am 29.09.2016 02:07, schrieb Alex W.:
> On 29/09/2016 04:10, Bob Officer wrote:
>> Alex W. <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 28/09/2016 04:23, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Am 27.09.2016 11:02, schrieb Alex W.:
>>>>
>
>
>>>>>> The Queen on the other hand is not regarded as German, since she
>>>>>> lives
>>>>>> in England, (despite that e.g. Mountbatten means 'Battenberg')
>>>>>
>>>>> Which may be true for most people today, but it is not correct for
>>>>> those
>>>>> who think in racial terms, or those who subscribe to the idea of
>>>>> Grossdeutschland. It was not true for Hitler or those who believed in
>>>>> his screwy ideology. They thought in terms of culture and language,
>>>>> and
>>>>> they made no difference between an Austrian, a Volga German or a
>>>>> Sudetendeutscher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's certainly interesting to hear about 'Grossdeutschland' from an
>>>> Englishman.
>>>
>>> Read some history.
>>>
>>> Then get back to us.
>>
>> Maybe he doesn't understand how many of today's Brits have ethnic German
>> ancestors?
>>
>> He like all to many people today confound the words ethnicity and
>> nationality.
>
> He not only confuses ethnicity and nationality, he insists on evaluating
> the piece of racist cant that is "Mein Kampf" from a modern perspective,
> totally neglecting the fact that Hitler and many of his contemporaries
> quite simply did not think in today's terms. Race (and to a lesser
> degree culture) were paramount in their thinking. Nationality was
> largely irrelevant to them, at best an obstacle to the unity of a racial
> and cultural entity that was to be overcome and eradicated.

The idea of a 'German race' or 'Aryan race' is British bullshit and 
promoted by Nazi theoretician Houston Steward Chamberlain.

Maybe its just coincidence, that had the same name as Neville 
Chamberlain, who signed the Munich treaty.

This allowed the Nazis, in violation of international laws, to annex the 
Czech Republic.


Anyhow:

My assumption is, the book 'Mein Kampf' was not written in German and 
not by Hitler.

Usually Hitler would would have to face death penalty for his armed 
revolt and attempted coup. But instead he was allowed to write his 
pamphlet in prison. To make this task easier, he had enough paper, a 
typewriter and a private secretary.

This is the official story.

Only the story can't be possibly true.

Among the various reasons is the large amount of 800 pages, which would 
be stunning productivity, especially if written in prison.

The other reasons are: the book does not match the alleged history of 
its author. E.g. the school system described is that of Germany and the 
parliament described is that of England.

The entire text in German looks like a poor translation of the much 
better written English version.

Also questionable is the general philosophical content, since Hitler was 
a homeless painter in Austria, with no higher education.

In WWI he got injured eyes and could not read in hospital. After WWI 
came relatively soon his attempted coup. So no time for Plato and Hegel.

But from were came his knowledge?

So we can safely assume, that someone else had written the book (a 
ghost-writer).

This seems to be common practise with MI6 spies and they are often 
presented as 'Artists'. (The required art is that provided by 'Q'.)

The 'art factory' would than be some spy-schools like the Tavistock 
Institute, where the apprentices can learn to write scripts.

TH

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#393947

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-27 06:43 +0200
Message-ID<e4ubohF1aroU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#393825
Am 26.09.2016 09:56, schrieb Alex W.:

>>>>
>>>> I'm also quite certain, that the book 'Mein Kampf' is actually a
>>>> translation into German from an English original.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>> You are insane.
>>
>> Well, maybe (but most likely not). It is irrelevant anyhow, since I can
>> prove, that 'My Struggle' (in English) was the original version, which
>> was only translated by Hess and Hitler.
>>
>> This would require to compare a piece of text from both versions.
>>
>> You can take actually any piece you like, but for reasons of convenience
>> I take a fragment, which I have used recently to show this effect in
>> another forum.
>>
>> So I take a piece of text from the English version and the same from the
>> German one and compare them for style, linguistic errors, content and so
>> forth.
>>
>> Since I'm German, my first language is German and I can - of course -
>> understand German quite well. My English is a little less, but should be
>> good enough.
>
> Your English is not good enough for this.
>
English is a second language for me. I can talk, read and write in 
English quite fluently. But,  as a matter of fact, that is still far 
from being perfect.

But if you complain about my English, than how is your second language? 
Do you have one at all?


On the other hand you are correct and linguistic analysis would require 
skills, which I do not posses.

But I can show you the principle and show you, what would be useful to 
compare.

I can show this at any give page of 'My Struggle' / 'Mein Kampf'.

You simply give me a page number (the book has about 800 pages) and I 
take this page.

(if the page is blank or almost empty, I take the next full page)



TH

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#393954

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-09-27 19:06 +1000
Message-ID<e4ur4pF4pcjU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#393947
On 27/09/2016 14:43, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 26.09.2016 09:56, schrieb Alex W.:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also quite certain, that the book 'Mein Kampf' is actually a
>>>>> translation into German from an English original.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TH
>>>>
>>>> You are insane.
>>>
>>> Well, maybe (but most likely not). It is irrelevant anyhow, since I can
>>> prove, that 'My Struggle' (in English) was the original version, which
>>> was only translated by Hess and Hitler.
>>>
>>> This would require to compare a piece of text from both versions.
>>>
>>> You can take actually any piece you like, but for reasons of convenience
>>> I take a fragment, which I have used recently to show this effect in
>>> another forum.
>>>
>>> So I take a piece of text from the English version and the same from the
>>> German one and compare them for style, linguistic errors, content and so
>>> forth.
>>>
>>> Since I'm German, my first language is German and I can - of course -
>>> understand German quite well. My English is a little less, but should be
>>> good enough.
>>
>> Your English is not good enough for this.
>>
> English is a second language for me. I can talk, read and write in
> English quite fluently. But,  as a matter of fact, that is still far
> from being perfect.
>
> But if you complain about my English, than how is your second language?
> Do you have one at all?

I am bilingual in English and German.
I am also fluent in French, and I have had 6 years of both Latin and Greek.

I also have a university degree in history and languages.

Enough for you?

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#393978

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 05:08 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-93C181.05082627092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#393954
In article <e4ur4pF4pcjU2@mid.individual.net>,
 "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 27/09/2016 14:43, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > Am 26.09.2016 09:56, schrieb Alex W.:
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm also quite certain, that the book 'Mein Kampf' is actually a
> >>>>> translation into German from an English original.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> TH
> >>>>
> >>>> You are insane.
> >>>
> >>> Well, maybe (but most likely not). It is irrelevant anyhow, since I can
> >>> prove, that 'My Struggle' (in English) was the original version, which
> >>> was only translated by Hess and Hitler.
> >>>
> >>> This would require to compare a piece of text from both versions.
> >>>
> >>> You can take actually any piece you like, but for reasons of convenience
> >>> I take a fragment, which I have used recently to show this effect in
> >>> another forum.
> >>>
> >>> So I take a piece of text from the English version and the same from the
> >>> German one and compare them for style, linguistic errors, content and so
> >>> forth.
> >>>
> >>> Since I'm German, my first language is German and I can - of course -
> >>> understand German quite well. My English is a little less, but should be
> >>> good enough.
> >>
> >> Your English is not good enough for this.
> >>
> > English is a second language for me. I can talk, read and write in
> > English quite fluently. But,  as a matter of fact, that is still far
> > from being perfect.
> >
> > But if you complain about my English, than how is your second language?
> > Do you have one at all?
> 
> I am bilingual in English and German.
> I am also fluent in French, and I have had 6 years of both Latin and Greek.
> 
> I also have a university degree in history and languages.
> 
> Enough for you?

Certainly more than enough for me.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#394065

FromDreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 20:28 -0400
Message-ID<793mub1dlmslhhvrs5gvk6a6mpovdpfnub@4ax.com>
In reply to#393954
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:06:33 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 27/09/2016 14:43, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 26.09.2016 09:56, schrieb Alex W.:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also quite certain, that the book 'Mein Kampf' is actually a
>>>>>> translation into German from an English original.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TH
>>>>>
>>>>> You are insane.
>>>>
>>>> Well, maybe (but most likely not). It is irrelevant anyhow, since I can
>>>> prove, that 'My Struggle' (in English) was the original version, which
>>>> was only translated by Hess and Hitler.
>>>>
>>>> This would require to compare a piece of text from both versions.
>>>>
>>>> You can take actually any piece you like, but for reasons of convenience
>>>> I take a fragment, which I have used recently to show this effect in
>>>> another forum.
>>>>
>>>> So I take a piece of text from the English version and the same from the
>>>> German one and compare them for style, linguistic errors, content and so
>>>> forth.
>>>>
>>>> Since I'm German, my first language is German and I can - of course -
>>>> understand German quite well. My English is a little less, but should be
>>>> good enough.
>>>
>>> Your English is not good enough for this.
>>>
>> English is a second language for me. I can talk, read and write in
>> English quite fluently. But,  as a matter of fact, that is still far
>> from being perfect.
>>
>> But if you complain about my English, than how is your second language?
>> Do you have one at all?
>
>I am bilingual in English and German.
>I am also fluent in French, and I have had 6 years of both Latin and Greek.
>
>I also have a university degree in history and languages.
>
>Enough for you?
>

No. Never enough languages!

You made me think of John Cleese in "A Fish Called Wanda"... and if
you don't get the reference, well hie thee to the internets and fetch
said movie pronto.

Latin... fuck me. Why? Other than understanding things like "post hoc
ergo propter hoc", was it actually a choice?

Greek... well come on. Everyone should know Greek if only for the
increased understanding of all the big words in English, like
onomatopoeia. Plus, "ai pithixou" is so much more poetic as "Go jump
yourself" than the colloquial "go fuck yourself", non?

French is a messed up language. Beautiful, but messed up.

I want to learn Spanish; I sadly didn't take the opportunity to do so
while I lived in Texas, but it's just such a great sounding language
that it's still on my bucket list. And Mandarin! Because it might be
nice to understand how we're being slagged.

I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
compiler.... <cue nerd groans>

-- 
Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

"If God listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have
perished: for they are forever praying for evil against one another."

Epicurus

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#394069

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-28 01:17 +0000
Message-ID<nsf5nb$1h6t$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#394065
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:

> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>

To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#394082

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 23:55 -0400
Message-ID<nsfeum$tp3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#394069
Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>
>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
>> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
>> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>
> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.

Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...


-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#394124

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-28 15:04 +0000
Message-ID<nsgm5u$1nu6$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#394082
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:55:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:

> Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>
>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
>>> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
>>> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>
>> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.
> 
> Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...

Yes. COBALled together in one tick.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#394161

FromDreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-28 16:06 -0400
Message-ID<ii8oubtbj6qij15vcn9rsd7kq8mp08fvpa@4ax.com>
In reply to#394124
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:04:30 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:55:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:
>
>> Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
>>>> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
>>>> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>>
>>> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.
>> 
>> Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...
>
>Yes. COBALled together in one tick.

That's a lot of Smalltalk from the cheap seats. The SQL to this
conversation is going to be what... a Postscript?

-- 
Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

"If God listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have
perished: for they are forever praying for evil against one another."

Epicurus

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#394197

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-29 00:03 +0000
Message-ID<nshlop$1bv2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#394161
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:06:34 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:04:30 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:55:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
>>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them
>>>>> in polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or
>>>>> a compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>>>
>>>> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.
>>> 
>>> Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...
>>
>>Yes. COBALled together in one tick.
> 
> That's a lot of Smalltalk from the cheap seats. The SQL to this
> conversation is going to be what... a Postscript?

I suggest you ask Ada.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#394211

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-29 00:38 -0400
Message-ID<nsi5s9$4cf$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#394161
Le 2016-09-28 à 16:06, Dreamer In Colore a écrit :
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:04:30 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:55:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
>>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
>>>>> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
>>>>> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>>>
>>>> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.
>>>
>>> Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...
>>
>> Yes. COBALled together in one tick.
>
> That's a lot of Smalltalk from the cheap seats. The SQL to this
> conversation is going to be what... a Postscript?

You're too judgmental. We're all trying to be objective, see?

-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#394210

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-29 00:37 -0400
Message-ID<nsi5p3$4cf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#394124
Le 2016-09-28 à 11:04, Smiler a écrit :
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:55:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:
>
>> Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
>>>> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
>>>> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>>
>>> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.
>>
>> Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...
>
> Yes. COBALled together in one tick.

"COBAL"??? Your stack has overflown. Please reboot!


-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#394265

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-29 15:48 +0000
Message-ID<nsjd3p$1rth$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#394210
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 00:37:04 -0400, Olrik wrote:

> Le 2016-09-28 à 11:04, Smiler a écrit :
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:55:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
>>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them
>>>>> in polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or
>>>>> a compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>>>
>>>> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.
>>>
>>> Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...
>>
>> Yes. COBALled together in one tick.
> 
> "COBAL"??? Your stack has overflown. Please reboot!

^H^H^H^H^H COBOL!

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#394333

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-29 23:59 -0400
Message-ID<nsknuj$rc0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#394265
Le 2016-09-29 à 11:48, Smiler a écrit :
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 00:37:04 -0400, Olrik wrote:
>
>> Le 2016-09-28 à 11:04, Smiler a écrit :
>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:55:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 2016-09-27 à 21:17, Smiler a écrit :
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:28:56 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them
>>>>>> in polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or
>>>>>> a compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>>>>
>>>>> To assemble that many languages, I C is more than BASIC.
>>>>
>>>> Pffftt... That was a swift judgment...
>>>
>>> Yes. COBALled together in one tick.
>>
>> "COBAL"??? Your stack has overflown. Please reboot!
>
> ^H^H^H^H^H COBOL!
>

Correction handled with Grace. Many thanks!

-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#394076

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-09-28 11:50 +1000
Message-ID<e50m02Fim9pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394065
On 28/09/2016 10:28, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:06:33 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 27/09/2016 14:43, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am 26.09.2016 09:56, schrieb Alex W.:
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also quite certain, that the book 'Mein Kampf' is actually a
>>>>>>> translation into German from an English original.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are insane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, maybe (but most likely not). It is irrelevant anyhow, since I can
>>>>> prove, that 'My Struggle' (in English) was the original version, which
>>>>> was only translated by Hess and Hitler.
>>>>>
>>>>> This would require to compare a piece of text from both versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can take actually any piece you like, but for reasons of convenience
>>>>> I take a fragment, which I have used recently to show this effect in
>>>>> another forum.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I take a piece of text from the English version and the same from the
>>>>> German one and compare them for style, linguistic errors, content and so
>>>>> forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I'm German, my first language is German and I can - of course -
>>>>> understand German quite well. My English is a little less, but should be
>>>>> good enough.
>>>>
>>>> Your English is not good enough for this.
>>>>
>>> English is a second language for me. I can talk, read and write in
>>> English quite fluently. But,  as a matter of fact, that is still far
>>> from being perfect.
>>>
>>> But if you complain about my English, than how is your second language?
>>> Do you have one at all?
>>
>> I am bilingual in English and German.
>> I am also fluent in French, and I have had 6 years of both Latin and Greek.
>>
>> I also have a university degree in history and languages.
>>
>> Enough for you?
>>
>
> No. Never enough languages!
>
> You made me think of John Cleese in "A Fish Called Wanda"... and if
> you don't get the reference, well hie thee to the internets and fetch
> said movie pronto.

I do know -- and love -- said film.

Oddly, I have tried Cleese's technique on my SO, without any result 
other than confused looks.

She requires other approaches....


>
> Latin... fuck me. Why? Other than understanding things like "post hoc
> ergo propter hoc", was it actually a choice?

It was not a choice at the time.
I have, however, come to greatly appreciate it.  Latin is an excellent 
basis for learning all sorts of languages, not least all the Romance 
tongues.


>
> Greek... well come on. Everyone should know Greek if only for the
> increased understanding of all the big words in English, like
> onomatopoeia. Plus, "ai pithixou" is so much more poetic as "Go jump
> yourself" than the colloquial "go fuck yourself", non?

A phrase with which current German tourists to Greece will be all too 
familiar...
:-)


>
> French is a messed up language. Beautiful, but messed up.

Their spelling is way more haphazard than English...


>
> I want to learn Spanish; I sadly didn't take the opportunity to do so
> while I lived in Texas, but it's just such a great sounding language
> that it's still on my bucket list. And Mandarin! Because it might be
> nice to understand how we're being slagged.

Aesthetically, I prefer Portuguese or Italian to Spanish, but each to 
his own.  I am also wary of the significant differences between the 
different versions of Spanish: my Castilian sister-in-law, for example, 
found it almost impossible to understand my Colombian cleaner ... even 
thought they both spoke Spanish (nominally).

As for the Chinese, Mandarin is only *one* of their languages.  Learn 
Mandarin, and you may find yourself being slagged off in Cantonese or 
Hakka....


>
> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>

So you're claiming you can order a beer in Python and tell someone to go 
perform anatomically impossible congress with themselves in C++?

Impressive.

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#394090

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 22:30 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-3108C4.22300927092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#394076
In article <e50m02Fim9pU1@mid.individual.net>,
 "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 28/09/2016 10:28, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:06:33 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 27/09/2016 14:43, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>> Am 26.09.2016 09:56, schrieb Alex W.:
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm also quite certain, that the book 'Mein Kampf' is actually a
> >>>>>>> translation into German from an English original.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> TH
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You are insane.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, maybe (but most likely not). It is irrelevant anyhow, since I can
> >>>>> prove, that 'My Struggle' (in English) was the original version, which
> >>>>> was only translated by Hess and Hitler.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This would require to compare a piece of text from both versions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can take actually any piece you like, but for reasons of convenience
> >>>>> I take a fragment, which I have used recently to show this effect in
> >>>>> another forum.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I take a piece of text from the English version and the same from the
> >>>>> German one and compare them for style, linguistic errors, content and so
> >>>>> forth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since I'm German, my first language is German and I can - of course -
> >>>>> understand German quite well. My English is a little less, but should be
> >>>>> good enough.
> >>>>
> >>>> Your English is not good enough for this.
> >>>>
> >>> English is a second language for me. I can talk, read and write in
> >>> English quite fluently. But,  as a matter of fact, that is still far
> >>> from being perfect.
> >>>
> >>> But if you complain about my English, than how is your second language?
> >>> Do you have one at all?
> >>
> >> I am bilingual in English and German.
> >> I am also fluent in French, and I have had 6 years of both Latin and Greek.
> >>
> >> I also have a university degree in history and languages.
> >>
> >> Enough for you?
> >>
> >
> > No. Never enough languages!
> >
> > You made me think of John Cleese in "A Fish Called Wanda"... and if
> > you don't get the reference, well hie thee to the internets and fetch
> > said movie pronto.
> 
> I do know -- and love -- said film.
> 
> Oddly, I have tried Cleese's technique on my SO, without any result 
> other than confused looks.
> 
> She requires other approaches....
> 
> 
> >
> > Latin... fuck me. Why? Other than understanding things like "post hoc
> > ergo propter hoc", was it actually a choice?
> 
> It was not a choice at the time.
> I have, however, come to greatly appreciate it.  Latin is an excellent 
> basis for learning all sorts of languages, not least all the Romance 
> tongues.


One of my favorite college classes was the Latin roots of English words.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#394123

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-28 14:58 +0000
Message-ID<nsglqq$1nu6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#394076
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:50:55 +1000, Alex W. wrote:

> On 28/09/2016 10:28, Dreamer In Colore wrote:

<snip>

>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
>> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
>> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>
>>
> So you're claiming you can order a beer in Python and tell someone to go
> perform anatomically impossible congress with themselves in C++?
> 
> Impressive.

To perform anatomically impossible congress with themselves in C++ 
requires repeated recursion, leading to a stack overflow.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#394162

FromDreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-28 16:07 -0400
Message-ID<9n8oubtm29g5k95th4rpdq1tguqele0fp3@4ax.com>
In reply to#394123
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:50:55 +1000, Alex W. wrote:
>
>> On 28/09/2016 10:28, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>> I'm fluent in at least fifteen languages; however, I don't use them in
>>> polite company. They require either the use of an interpreter or a
>>> compiler.... <cue nerd groans>
>>>
>>>
>> So you're claiming you can order a beer in Python and tell someone to go
>> perform anatomically impossible congress with themselves in C++?
>> 
>> Impressive.
>
>To perform anatomically impossible congress with themselves in C++ 
>requires repeated recursion, leading to a stack overflow.

That's not in the design spec. Nowhere was frequency specified, but I
will say that I liked the overflow pun.

-- 
Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

"If God listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have
perished: for they are forever praying for evil against one another."

Epicurus

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