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Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-20 17:11 +0000
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-21 12:04 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-21 16:51 -0400
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 15:45 +0000
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-24 07:25 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-24 15:01 +0000
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 10:02 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 10:05 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 11:21 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 11:46 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 12:03 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-25 05:39 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-25 07:30 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-25 08:19 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-25 10:15 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-25 13:45 -0400
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-25 10:59 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 11:07 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-25 13:04 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-24 22:19 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 13:30 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-26 08:25 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-26 05:54 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-26 22:20 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-26 20:02 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-26 20:19 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-26 20:30 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-27 11:28 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-27 12:16 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-27 12:34 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-28 06:23 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-28 19:47 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-29 10:14 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-30 04:56 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-30 08:14 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-30 08:50 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-30 09:04 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-30 18:29 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-10-05 10:00 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-28 19:56 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-26 06:11 -0700
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 21:01 -0400
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-26 08:17 +0200
Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer. fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 09:55 -0700
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-24 13:30 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #365189 |
> ..Matter is total different from empty space. if you take matter away from space, you get a vacuum. But actually what is space? Kinetic energy
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-26 08:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d6ms2jF4817U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #365190 |
Am 24.09.2015 22:30, schrieb fuller.david@hotmail.com: >> ..Matter is total different from empty space. > > if you take matter away from space, you get a vacuum. > > But actually what is space? > > Kinetic energy Kinetic energy is defined as energy of moving bodies. Since there are no such bodies in vacuum, you have no kinetic energy. This would mean, that your reply is the most unjustified assumption possible. You may also separate the quoted text from your reply, because otherwise it is impossible to see, what you have written yourself. TH
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-26 05:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4b51bd2e-f9a4-4121-8a73-873df70fb489@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365310 |
Am 24.09.2015 22:30, schrieb fuller...@hotmail.com: >> ..Matter is total different from empty space. > > if you take matter away from space, you get a vacuum. > > But actually what is space? > > Kinetic energy Kinetic energy is defined as energy of moving bodies. Since there are no such bodies in vacuum, you have no kinetic energy. This would mean, that your reply is the most unjustified assumption possible. You may also separate the quoted text from your reply, because otherwise it is impossible to see, what you have written yourself. TH The concepts in Your own Google docs book seems to predict "space" to be kinetic energy as it states "mass" appears as "light" in different inertial frames For the event horizon of a black hole, The gravitational acceleration in excess of v of c would be space ripped open because the objects inertia will not allow it to be accelerated any further because it is gaining relativistic mass too quickly. The objects resistance to further acceleration causes a "vacuum". This object with mass is traveling at c in the gravity of a black hole so it does possess kinetic energy.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-26 22:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d6od17FgbfoU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #365326 |
Am 26.09.2015 14:54, schrieb fuller.david@hotmail.com: > Am 24.09.2015 22:30, schrieb fuller...@hotmail.com: >>> ..Matter is total different from empty space. >> >> if you take matter away from space, you get a vacuum. >> >> But actually what is space? >> >> Kinetic energy > > Kinetic energy is defined as energy of moving bodies. Since there are no > such bodies in vacuum, you have no kinetic energy. > > This would mean, that your reply is the most unjustified assumption > possible. > > You may also separate the quoted text from your reply, because otherwise > it is impossible to see, what you have written yourself. > > > TH > > The concepts in Your own Google docs book seems to predict "space" to be kinetic energy as it states "mass" appears as "light" in different inertial frames > No, since I assume, that 'space' is the distorted impression we have from the real universe, since light is delayed and needs time to travel. Since we see things by received light, the image we get from space in NOT an image from the real universe. Its a real image, of course, but the image is OUR image - not the 'real thing'. What we see is not only remote in space, but also remote in time. The so called 'past-light-cone' is, from where we receive light and what we regard as space. This is obviously not the euclidean 3d-space, but has also a time component. It also depends on position and velocity of the observer. So the 'space', as we see it, depends on light and an observer and its position. The 'real' space is actually invisible, since light from on million light-years distance needs one million years to reach us. (this is too long, hence we cannot see. ) And therefore we have little knowledge about this space and cannot rightfully claim, it has some specific properties. TH
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-26 20:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <740c6de9-d6c4-4447-ae35-a4e6a52305cc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365365 |
> The concepts in Your own Google docs book seems to predict "space" to be kinetic energy as it states "mass" appears as "light" in different inertial frames > No, since I assume, that 'space' is the distorted impression we have from the real universe, since light is delayed and needs time to travel. Since we see things by received light, the image we get from space in NOT an image from the real universe. Its a real image, of course, but the image is OUR image - not the 'real thing'. What we see is not only remote in space, but also remote in time. The so called 'past-light-cone' is, from where we receive light and what we regard as space. This is obviously not the euclidean 3d-space, but has also a time component. It also depends on position and velocity of the observer. So the 'space', as we see it, depends on light and an observer and its position. The 'real' space is actually invisible, since light from on million light-years distance needs one million years to reach us. (this is too long, hence we cannot see. ) And therefore we have little knowledge about this space and cannot rightfully claim, it has some specific properties. TH In a vacuum, light will always be observe to be traveling at c and have varying wavelengths because space is Not Just empty space. If space was just space, photons would act like ballistic particles with random velocities. This moment in Time is spatially everywhere. The back side of this moment in time is space. Your google docs paper will not work with ballistic particles. Light always travels at c because the kinetic energy of the vacuum is c^2
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-26 20:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <66041ddb-fbf0-46ee-b7f4-d8ad4dee399a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365405 |
In a vacuum, light will always be observe to be traveling at c and have varying wavelengths because space is Not Just empty space. If space was just space, photons would act like ballistic particles with random velocities. This moment in Time is spatially everywhere. The back side of this moment in time is space. Your google docs paper will not work with ballistic particles. Light always travels at c because the kinetic energy of the vacuum is c^2 The event horizon is this moment in time, right now. The event horizon of our space, right here, is time, this moment in time. We can't pass in to the future, away from the intersection, right here, of space & time.
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| Date | 2015-09-26 20:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e775cbf6-2269-4112-a8cb-1dcdb551157e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365408 |
In a vacuum, light will always be observe to be traveling at c and have varying wavelengths because space is Not Just empty space. If space was just space, photons would act like ballistic particles with random velocities. This moment in Time is spatially everywhere. The back side of this moment in time is space. Your google docs paper will not work with ballistic particles. Light always travels at c because the kinetic energy of the vacuum is c^2 The event horizon is this moment in time, right now. The event horizon of our space, right here, is time, this moment in time. We can't pass in to the future, away from the intersection, right here, of space & time. That is why Leonard Susskind is predicting the universe is holographic and Regge trajectories for particle masses works and the Koide formula works for the electron the muon and the tau masses https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/2/b/a/2baf831e380dc8612715d087128cb210.png
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-27 11:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d6pr6hFqncuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #365411 |
Am 27.09.2015 05:30, schrieb fuller.david@hotmail.com: > In a vacuum, light will always be observe to be traveling at c and have varying wavelengths because space is Not Just empty space. > > If space was just space, photons would act like ballistic particles with random velocities. > > This moment in Time is spatially everywhere. > The back side of this moment in time is space. > Your google docs paper will not work with ballistic particles. > > Light always travels at c because the kinetic energy of the vacuum is c^2 In a spacetime-diagram c is the angle of 45°. So we could think in degrees in spacetime and associate such angles to certain observed phenomena. Angle zero is then 'no space' (or timelike). (like mass is) The opposite is 'no time' (or spacelike) (like static fields) if we combine both we get a certain wave and that is light-like (45°). (If we combine both to a static structure, we get atoms.) The past light-cone is what we see (called 'universe') and where we are seen is our future light-cone. > > The event horizon is this moment in time, right now. > The event horizon of our space, right here, is time, this moment in time. > We can't pass in to the future, away from the intersection, right here, of space& time. > If we now base the angles on ourselves, we could assume other angles and associated 'universes', that have an 'axis of time' not in line with ours. We could actually see 'time from behind' and that is what we call a 'black hole'. We could also see the opposite and that is a 'white hole', where time seems to approach. But the rotation of the axis of time is 'relative'. This means, that 'stable' is a question of the point of view. In other terms: the angle of zero needs some sort of reference and that is usually the requirement of stability. From this we could draw the conclusion, that matter in one FoR may look like 'not being there at all' or like radiation. And such 'not there matter' could pop out of nothing in an event called 'big bang'. Or we could make matter disappear into (seemingly) nowhere. TH
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-27 12:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e3ad6469-e60e-43de-9eb2-9c8b96bba463@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365421 |
Kinetic Energy and the Equivalence Principle S. Carlip (Submitted on 3 Sep 1999) According to the general theory of relativity, kinetic energy contributes to gravitational mass. Surprisingly, the observational evidence for this prediction does not seem to be discussed in the literature. I reanalyze existing experimental data to test the equivalence principle for the kinetic energy of atomic electrons, and show that fairly strong limits on possible violations can be obtained. I discuss the relationship of this result to the occasional claim that ``light falls with twice the acceleration of ordinary matter.'' Am 27.09.2015 05:30, schrieb fuller...@hotmail.com: > In a vacuum, light will always be observe to be traveling at c and have varying wavelengths because space is Not Just empty space. > > If space was just space, photons would act like ballistic particles with random velocities. > > This moment in Time is spatially everywhere. > The back side of this moment in time is space. > Your google docs paper will not work with ballistic particles. > > Light always travels at c because the kinetic energy of the vacuum is c^2 In a spacetime-diagram c is the angle of 45°. So we could think in degrees in spacetime and associate such angles to certain observed phenomena. Angle zero is then 'no space' (or timelike). (like mass is) The opposite is 'no time' (or spacelike) (like static fields) if we combine both we get a certain wave and that is light-like (45°). (If we combine both to a static structure, we get atoms.) The past light-cone is what we see (called 'universe') and where we are seen is our future light-cone. > > The event horizon is this moment in time, right now. > The event horizon of our space, right here, is time, this moment in time. > We can't pass in to the future, away from the intersection, right here, of space& time. > If we now base the angles on ourselves, we could assume other angles and associated 'universes', that have an 'axis of time' not in line with ours. We could actually see 'time from behind' and that is what we call a 'black hole'. We could also see the opposite and that is a 'white hole', where time seems to approach. But the rotation of the axis of time is 'relative'. This means, that 'stable' is a question of the point of view. In other terms: the angle of zero needs some sort of reference and that is usually the requirement of stability. From this we could draw the conclusion, that matter in one FoR may look like 'not being there at all' or like radiation. And such 'not there matter' could pop out of nothing in an event called 'big bang'. Or we could make matter disappear into (seemingly) nowhere. TH
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-27 12:34 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #365421 |
TH According to your paper on google the totality of the CMBR can be alternately viewed as mass from a different reference frame Meaning space would be caused by the Kinetic Energy of the particles of CMBR traveling at c in the opposing frame.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-28 06:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d6rtm6Fc6shU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #365470 |
Am 27.09.2015 21:34, schrieb fuller.david@hotmail.com: > TH > According to your paper on google the totality of the CMBR can be alternately viewed as mass from a different reference frame > Meaning space would be caused by the Kinetic Energy of the particles of CMBR traveling at c in the opposing frame. > Hi apparently I have at least on reader... But I want to mention, that I use a different perspective than you. I use 'subjectivism'. I assume, that anybody sees the world from the own perspective. That's why I don't ask, what that something 'really' is, but why we could have some sort of observations. So, maybe, CMBR has mass and that kinetic energy. But actually I had not thought about this question, since I tried to explain the observation we call CMBR. Or: I assume a physical entity called 'spacetime', without trying to tell, what that 'really' is. My approach is from the other direction and I try to find a common denominator for certain experiences and call this 'spacetime'. (This is just a term like 'mumble' or 'XYZ'.) In my model 'particles' refers to 'structures' of this entity 'spacetime'. This is like the relation of a wave to the surface of the ocean or a vortex in relation to air. TH
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| Date | 2015-09-28 19:47 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #365484 |
3.085677581e+22 m/ (70000 m * 299792458^2) = 4.90468476209 Ho = 70 +/- 2.2 km/sec/Mpc Mpc 3.085677 * 10^22 m
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-29 10:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4e0fe6d2-4031-4b26-b746-b11ddc772c33@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365662 |
On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 9:47:34 PM UTC-5, fuller...@hotmail.com wrote: > 3.085677581e+22 m/ (70000 m * 299792458^2) = 4.90468476209 > > Ho = 70 +/- 2.2 km/sec/Mpc > > Mpc 3.085677 * 10^22 m 70 ((kilometers / second) / Mpc) = 2.2685455 × 10^-18 hertz 1/(2.2685455 × 10^-18) = 4.4081108e+17 1836 eV 6.7530e-10 m 4.4394e+17 Hz https://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/virttxtjml/cnvcalc.htm
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-30 04:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d711b8Fld70U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #365739 |
Am 29.09.2015 19:14, schrieb fuller.david@hotmail.com: > On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 9:47:34 PM UTC-5, fuller...@hotmail.com wrote: >> 3.085677581e+22 m/ (70000 m * 299792458^2) = 4.90468476209 >> >> Ho = 70 +/- 2.2 km/sec/Mpc >> >> Mpc 3.085677 * 10^22 m > > 70 ((kilometers / second) / Mpc) = 2.2685455 × 10^-18 hertz > > 1/(2.2685455 × 10^-18) = 4.4081108e+17 > > 1836 eV 6.7530e-10 m 4.4394e+17 Hz > > https://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/virttxtjml/cnvcalc.htm That's nice... But would you mind telling me, what you try to figure out? Yes, the universe as a hole has apparently a 'frequency' (thou extremely low) and a VERY long wavelength. This you have figured out from the Hubble constant. Well, quite nice, but what do you try to express? TH
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-30 08:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <30057e98-f5ee-4a6f-bbb1-b7ba00f95039@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365784 |
That's nice... But would you mind telling me, what you try to figure out? Yes, the universe as a hole has apparently a 'frequency' (thou extremely low) and a VERY long wavelength. This you have figured out from the Hubble constant. Well, quite nice, but what do you try to express? TH Space is kinetic energy. Impedance of the vacuum regulates v of c. Appearance of expanding, red shifting universe is result of changing vacuum impedance Current time dilation in our local is exceedingly high and not noticed.
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| Date | 2015-09-30 08:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4a180564-4643-413d-a18e-b84e20926440@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365807 |
Well, quite nice, but what do you try to express? TH Space is kinetic energy. Impedance of the vacuum regulates v of c. Appearance of expanding, red shifting universe is result of changing vacuum impedance Current time dilation in our local is exceedingly high and not noticed. 433494437 / (3 * 10^8) = 1.4449815 433494437 / (299792458) = 1.44598179651 1/(1-(c/(3*10^8)) ) = 1445.49055131 433494437^2 / 299792458^2 = 2.09086335585 E^2 = (pc)^2 + (mc^2)^2 Current time dilation around 1445
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| Date | 2015-09-30 09:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8a673184-a887-40db-a806-dedb59f093a4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #365809 |
Well, quite nice, but what do you try to express? TH Space is kinetic energy. Impedance of the vacuum regulates v of c. Appearance of expanding, red shifting universe is result of changing vacuum impedance Current time dilation in our local is exceedingly high and not noticed. 433494437 / (3 * 10^8) = 1.4449815 433494437 / (299792458) = 1.44598179651 1/(1-(c/(3*10^8)) ) = 1445.49055131 433494437^2 / 299792458^2 = 2.09086335585 E^2 = (pc)^2 + (mc^2)^2 Current time dilation around 1445 No tidal effects will be experienced because matter is made of the medium and in the medium Tidal effects will be experienced a solely as a temperature change
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| Date | 2015-09-30 18:29 -0700 |
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(4pi*29.9792458)/(1507/4)=0.99994774641 (1507/4)/(4pi*1*1*2*3*5) = 0.99936041349 (4pi*29.9792458)/377=0.99928465109 1508/4 = 377 14 : 377 = 13 x 29 (1507/1508) * 300000000 = 299801061.008 n : F(n)=factorisation 0 : 0 1 : 1 2 : 1 3 : 2 4 : 3 5 : 5 6 : 8 = 23 7 : 13 8 : 21 = 3 x 7 9 : 34 = 2 x 17 10 : 55 = 5 x 11 11 : 89 12 : 144 = 24 x 32 13 : 233 14 : 377 = 13 x 29 15 : 610 = 2 x 5 x 61 16 : 987 = 3 x 7 x 47 17 : 1597 18 : 2584 = 23 x 17 x 19 19 : 4181 = 37 x 113 20 : 6765 = 3 x 5 x 11 x 41 21 : 10946 = 2 x 13 x 421 22 : 17711 = 89 x 199 23 : 28657 24 : 46368 = 25 x 32 x 7 x 23 25 : 75025 = 52 x 3001 26 : 121393 = 233 x 521 27 : 196418 = 2 x 17 x 53 x 109 28 : 317811 = 3 x 13 x 29 x 281 29 : 514229 30 : 832040 = 23 x 5 x 11 x 31 x 61 31 : 1346269 = 557 x 2417 32 : 2178309 = 3 x 7 x 47 x 2207 33 : 3524578 = 2 x 89 x 19801 34 : 5702887 = 1597 x 3571 35 : 9227465 = 5 x 13 x 141961 36 : 14930352 = 24 x 33 x 17 x 19 x 107 37 : 24157817 = 73 x 149 x 2221 38 : 39088169 = 37 x 113 x 9349 39 : 63245986 = 2 x 233 x 135721 40 : 102334155 = 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 41 x 2161 41 : 165580141 = 2789 x 59369 42 : 267914296 = 23 x 13 x 29 x 211 x 421 43 : 433494437
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-10-05 10:00 -0700 |
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On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 8:29:51 PM UTC-5, fuller...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> n : F(n)=factorisation> (4pi*29.9792458)/(1507/4)=0.99994774641
>
> (1507/4)/(4pi*1*1*2*3*5) = 0.99936041349
>
> (4pi*29.9792458)/377=0.99928465109
>
> 1508/4 = 377 14 : 377 = 13 x 29
>
> (1507/1508) * 300000000 = 299801061.008
>
> 0 : 0
> 1 : 1
> 2 : 1
> 3 : 2
> 4 : 3
> 5 : 5
> 6 : 8 = 23
> 7 : 13
> 8 : 21 = 3 x 7
> 9 : 34 = 2 x 17
> 10 : 55 = 5 x 11
> 11 : 89
> 12 : 144 = 24 x 32
> 13 : 233
> 14 : 377 = 13 x 29
> 15 : 610 = 2 x 5 x 61
> 16 : 987 = 3 x 7 x 47
> 17 : 1597
> 18 : 2584 = 23 x 17 x 19
> 19 : 4181 = 37 x 113
> 20 : 6765 = 3 x 5 x 11 x 41
> 21 : 10946 = 2 x 13 x 421
> 22 : 17711 = 89 x 199
> 23 : 28657
> 24 : 46368 = 25 x 32 x 7 x 23
> 25 : 75025 = 52 x 3001
> 26 : 121393 = 233 x 521
> 27 : 196418 = 2 x 17 x 53 x 109
> 28 : 317811 = 3 x 13 x 29 x 281
> 29 : 514229
> 30 : 832040 = 23 x 5 x 11 x 31 x 61
> 31 : 1346269 = 557 x 2417
> 32 : 2178309 = 3 x 7 x 47 x 2207
> 33 : 3524578 = 2 x 89 x 19801
> 34 : 5702887 = 1597 x 3571
> 35 : 9227465 = 5 x 13 x 141961
> 36 : 14930352 = 24 x 33 x 17 x 19 x 107
> 37 : 24157817 = 73 x 149 x 2221
> 38 : 39088169 = 37 x 113 x 9349
> 39 : 63245986 = 2 x 233 x 135721
> 40 : 102334155 = 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 41 x 2161
> 41 : 165580141 = 2789 x 59369
> 42 : 267914296 = 23 x 13 x 29 x 211 x 421
> 43 : 433494437
(4pi*29.9792458)/(1507/4)=0.99994774641
(1507/4)/(4pi*1*1*2*3*5) = 0.99936041349
(4pi*29.9792458)/377=0.99928465109
1508/4 = 377 14 : 377 = 13 x 29
(1507/1508) * 300000000 = 299801061.008
42 : 267914296 = 2^3 x 13 x 29 x 211 x 421
4 * 377 = 1/(1/( 4 * 377) +1) = 299801192.843
267914296 / (377 * 2^2) = 2 x 211 x 421 = 177662
Impedance of the Vacuum = 13 x 29 = 377
29.9792458 * 4pi = 376.730313462
376.730313462 / 377 = 0.99928465109
0.99928465109 * 300000000 = 299785395.327
sqrt 177662 = 421.49970344
421 / sqrt 177662 = 0.99881446312
840/841 = 0.99881093935
(840/841) / (421 / sqrt 177662) = 0.99999647204
Pythagorean Triples
A triplet is relatively prime if the triplet cannot be reduced.
Ex: 3,4,5 cannot be reduced.
Ex: 6,8,10 CAN be reduced (by 2) so it is not.
These are all RPPTs.
A B C CC Diff. A B B / 12
--- --- --- ------ --- --- ---
Here is one: 3 4 5 25 Difference: 3 4 0
Here is one: 5 12 13 169 Difference: 2 8 0
Here is one: 7 24 25 625 Difference: 2 12 1
Here is one: 11 60 61 3721 Difference: 4 36 3 ----------
Here is one: 13 84 85 7225 Difference: 2 24 2
Here is one: 17 144 145 21025 Difference: 4 60 5 10 primes
Here is one: 19 180 181 32761 Difference: 2 36 3
Here is one: 23 264 265 70225 Difference: 4 84 7 in a row?
Here is one: 29 420 421 177241 Difference: 6 156 13
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| Date | 2015-09-28 19:56 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #365484 |
(1 / (c * 50)) / G = 0.999580752 kg s^3 / m^4 0.999580752 * 300 000 000 = 299874225.6
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