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Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer.

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Am 26.09.2015 14:54, schrieb fuller.david@hotmail.com:
> Am 24.09.2015 22:30, schrieb fuller...@hotmail.com:
>>> ..Matter is total different from empty space.
>>
>> if you take matter away from space, you get a vacuum.
>>
>> But actually what is space?
>>
>> Kinetic energy
>
> Kinetic energy is defined as energy of moving bodies. Since there are no
> such bodies in vacuum, you have no kinetic energy.
>
> This would mean, that your reply is the most unjustified assumption
> possible.
>
> You may also separate the quoted text from your reply, because otherwise
> it is impossible to see, what you have written yourself.
>
>
> TH
>


 > The concepts in Your own Google docs book seems to predict "space" to 
be kinetic energy as it states "mass" appears as "light" in different 
inertial frames
 >

No, since I assume, that 'space' is the distorted impression we have 
from the real universe, since light is delayed and needs time to travel. 
Since we see things by received light, the image we get from space in 
NOT an image from the real universe.

Its a real image, of course, but the image is OUR image - not the 'real 
thing'.

What we see is not only remote in space, but also remote in time.

The so called 'past-light-cone' is, from where we receive light and what 
we regard as space.

This is obviously not the euclidean 3d-space, but has also a time 
component. It also depends on position and velocity of the observer.

So the 'space', as we see it, depends on light and an observer and its 
position.

The 'real' space is actually invisible, since light from on million 
light-years distance needs one million years to reach us. (this is too 
long, hence we cannot see. )

And therefore we have little knowledge about this space and cannot 
rightfully claim, it has some specific properties.


TH

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