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Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer.

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why does "curved space-time" cause gravity?: A better answer.
Date 2015-09-27 11:28 +0200
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Am 27.09.2015 05:30, schrieb fuller.david@hotmail.com:
> In a vacuum, light will always be observe to be traveling at c and have varying wavelengths because space is Not Just empty space.
>
> If space was just space, photons would act like ballistic particles with random velocities.
>
> This moment in Time is  spatially everywhere.
> The back side of this moment in time is space.
> Your google docs paper will not work with ballistic particles.
>
> Light always travels at c because the kinetic energy of the vacuum is c^2


In a spacetime-diagram c is the angle of 45°.

So we could think in degrees in spacetime and associate such angles to 
certain observed phenomena.

Angle zero is then 'no space' (or timelike). (like mass is)

The opposite is 'no time' (or spacelike) (like static fields)

if we combine both we get a certain wave and that is light-like (45°).

(If we combine both to a static structure, we get atoms.)

The past light-cone is what we see (called 'universe') and where we are 
seen is our future light-cone.

>
> The event horizon is this moment in time, right now.
> The event horizon of our space, right here, is time, this moment in time.
> We can't pass in to the future, away from the intersection, right here, of space&  time.
>

If we now base the angles on ourselves, we could assume other angles and 
associated 'universes', that have an 'axis of time' not in line with ours.

We could actually see 'time from behind' and that is what we call a 
'black hole'.

We could also see the opposite and that is a 'white hole', where time 
seems to approach.

But the rotation of the axis of time is 'relative'. This means, that 
'stable' is a question of the point of view.

In other terms: the angle of zero needs some sort of reference and that 
is usually the requirement of stability.

 From this we could draw the conclusion, that matter in one FoR may look 
like 'not being there at all' or like radiation.

And such 'not there matter' could pop out of nothing in an event called 
'big bang'.

Or we could make matter disappear into (seemingly) nowhere.


TH

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