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Super Intelligence

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First post2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
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  Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
    Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
      Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0000
            Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:15 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:03 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 12:59 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 04:20 +0800
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 16:03 -0700
                      Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:35 +0800
                        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 18:08 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 10:01 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-08 09:02 +0200
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:11 +0800
                  Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 17:29 +0200
                  Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 10:38 -0700
                    Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:37 +0800
                      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 16:26 -0700
                        Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-18 12:30 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:17 -0600
                            Re: Super Intelligence Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-10-19 11:26 +1300
                              Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:49 -0600
                      Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:49 +1100
                        Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 17:17 -0700
                        Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                          Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 19:02 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:12 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-09 09:27 +1300
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:16 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:29 +1100
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:22 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence squalk <sq@net.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:17 +0100
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:43 +0800
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:26 -0700
              Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-08 11:00 +1300
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:47 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:53 -0700
    Re: Super Intelligence Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2026-10-07 02:55 -0400
      Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:08 +0800
        Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-07 23:04 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:32 -0700

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#673896 — Super Intelligence

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
SubjectSuper Intelligence
Message-ID<6ABC6FC3.4B51@ix.netcom.com>
Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673901

Fromguido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid>
Date2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
Message-ID<119igcu$1no7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#673896
Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?

What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human 
irrationality?

-- 
guido wugi

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#673903

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Date2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
Message-ID<119ihno$28sd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#673901
On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote:
> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:

>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?

Well, there's Dunning and Kruger.

> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> irrationality?

It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of
the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent
to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in
safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#673970

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
Message-ID<6ABD724E.4B04@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673903
Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
> On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote:
> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> 
> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> Well, there's Dunning and Kruger.
> 
> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > irrationality?
> 
> It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of
> the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent
> to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in
> safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president.


When Albert Einstein builted the atomic bomb he didn't have any
safeguards...


just drop the thing.


kill them all!


You see, what THEY won't tell you..
Albert Einstein didn't believe human beings had any souls.




> 
> --
> Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
> Newcastle, NSW

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674048

Fromoccam <occam@nowhere.nix>
Date2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
Message-ID<ni7ls0Fd4aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#673903
On 30/09/2026 10:37, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote:
>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> 
>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> Well, there's Dunning and Kruger.
> 
>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>> irrationality?
> 
> It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of
> the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent
> to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in
> safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president.
> 

Hmm, for once I find myself in agreement with the Drumph.

To be clear, he is not blocking safeguards. He is saying slowing done AI
development is not a good idea. He is correct in saying that, because if
the competition (China, Russia) does not conform to those guidelines,
they will end up with far more potent and aggressive AIs than those of
OpenAI and Anthropic.

Have you read Neal Stepheson's cyberpunk novels 'Snow Crash' and
'Cryptonomicon'? In there human agents don headgear and penetrate enemy
cyber-defences, a bit like (virtual) fighter pilots navigating a war
zone. Considering the novels were written in the 1990s - well before
current AI developments - they are quite visionary.

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#674161

FromBob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid>
Date2026-10-02 20:51 +0000
Message-ID<119p5hf$pve$1@moist.bananacorp.nl.uucp>
In reply to#674048
occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:

>On 30/09/2026 10:37, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote:
>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>> 
>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>> 
>> Well, there's Dunning and Kruger.
>> 
>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>> irrationality?
>> 
>> It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of
>> the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent
>> to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in
>> safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president.
>> 

>Hmm, for once I find myself in agreement with the Drumph.

>To be clear, he is not blocking safeguards. He is saying slowing done AI
>development is not a good idea. He is correct in saying that, because if
>the competition (China, Russia) does not conform to those guidelines,
>they will end up with far more potent and aggressive AIs than those of
>OpenAI and Anthropic.

>Have you read Neal Stepheson's cyberpunk novels 'Snow Crash' and
>'Cryptonomicon'? In there human agents don headgear and penetrate enemy
>cyber-defences, a bit like (virtual) fighter pilots navigating a war
>zone. Considering the novels were written in the 1990s - well before
>current AI developments - they are quite visionary.

The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?

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#674223

Fromoccam <occam@nowhere.nix>
Date2026-10-07 17:15 +0200
Message-ID<nin602Fb25eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#674161
On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> 

<snip>

> 
> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?

It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
<https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>

If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
"Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
processes."

The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.

The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
better, quicker and cheaper.


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#674229

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 02:03 +0800
Message-ID<tPvxS.406$SBg4.306@fx09.ams4>
In reply to#674223
On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>
>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
> 
> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
> 
> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
> processes."
> 
> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
> 
> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
> better, quicker and cheaper.

So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
go about that in the first place?
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I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
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#674239

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-07 12:59 -0700
Message-ID<6AC6A495.6BD8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674229
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> > On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> >> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> >>
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>
> >> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
> >> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
> >
> > It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
> > <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
> >
> > If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
> > "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
> > in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
> > intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
> > structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
> > processes."
> >
> > The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
> > coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
> > made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
> >
> > The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
> > The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
> > feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
> > better, quicker and cheaper.
> 
> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> go about that in the first place?


For example???? 


you wanna make a baby with an Ai? 



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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674241

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 04:20 +0800
Message-ID<TPxxS.10455$AQqd.2783@fx11.ams4>
In reply to#674239
On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>>
>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
>>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
>>>
>>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
>>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
>>>
>>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
>>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
>>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
>>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
>>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
>>> processes."
>>>
>>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
>>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
>>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
>>>
>>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
>>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
>>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
>>> better, quicker and cheaper.
>>
>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>> go about that in the first place?
> 
> 
> For example????
> 
> 
> you wanna make a baby with an Ai?
>

You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot?  I mean, it's not
hard to find the gaps in its knowledege.  My go-to problem is /trans-
actional file system/.

Ask the A.I. to make one for you.  You'll quickly find the gaps, and
will have to teach it the details.  Which is a waste of time, because
it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large.


Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot!

-- 
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I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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#674244

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-07 16:03 -0700
Message-ID<6AC6CFD5.DE8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674241
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
> >>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
> >>>
> >>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
> >>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
> >>>
> >>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
> >>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
> >>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
> >>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
> >>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
> >>> processes."
> >>>
> >>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
> >>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
> >>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
> >>>
> >>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
> >>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
> >>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
> >>> better, quicker and cheaper.
> >>
> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> >> go about that in the first place?
> >
> >
> > For example????
> >
> >
> > you wanna make a baby with an Ai?
> >
> 
> You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot?  I mean, it's not
> hard to find the gaps in its knowledege.  My go-to problem is /trans-
> actional file system/.
> 
> Ask the A.I. to make one for you.  You'll quickly find the gaps, and
> will have to teach it the details.  Which is a waste of time, because
> it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large.
> 
> Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot!

I don't know what is a "transactional file system"..

but I know of things Ai cannot do because it simply has not learned it
yet, that's
where you come in and 'train it' yourself.

First collect links either from the internet or your own documents, and
Upload it to Ai.

It will read it all, and tell Ai ...


Role: You are a knowledgeable expert on the topic below.

Task: Role: You are a knowledgeable Transactional NTFS expert

Constraints:
- If key details are missing, state your assumptions in one line, then
answer.
- Be specific and concrete; do not restate the task back to me.

Output format: A structured answer with short paragraphs or bullets —
whichever fits the content best.

Tone: Professional but natural; no filler phrases.


https://www.google.com/search?q=PROMPT%3A+Role%3A+You+are+a+knowledgeable+Transactional+NTFS+expert.



(just mees with it to fit your needs)


teach ai how to blow up the earth!






> 
> --
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> Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674246

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 07:35 +0800
Message-ID<IGAxS.568$SBg4.115@fx09.ams4>
In reply to#674244
On 10/8/2026 7:03 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>>>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>>>> occam<occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
>>>>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
>>>>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
>>>>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
>>>>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
>>>>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
>>>>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
>>>>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
>>>>> processes."
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
>>>>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
>>>>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
>>>>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
>>>>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
>>>>> better, quicker and cheaper.
>>>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>>>> go about that in the first place?
>>>
>>> For example????
>>>
>>>
>>> you wanna make a baby with an Ai?
>>>
>> You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot?  I mean, it's not
>> hard to find the gaps in its knowledege.  My go-to problem is /trans-
>> actional file system/.
>>
>> Ask the A.I. to make one for you.  You'll quickly find the gaps, and
>> will have to teach it the details.  Which is a waste of time, because
>> it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large.
>>
>> Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot!
> I don't know what is a "transactional file system"..
> 
> but I know of things Ai cannot do because it simply has not learned it
> yet, that's
> where you come in and 'train it' yourself.

Seems you claim you're an NTFS "expert" and didn't know about this?

  
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/about-transactional-ntfs

Note, I don't really count NFTS as a /transactional file system/, be-
cause Microsoft has deprecated this and might remove it without further
notice.

Now, do something similar for Linux, Unix of your choice.  Why not Open-
ZFS because that's also available for Windows?

   https://github.com/openzfsonwindows/openzfs/releases

I don't care if you use Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Illumos, but please
make this happen.  The L.L.Ms. need to know how to do this, right?

So you implement a file system where you can atomically modify two or
more files, with the proviso that all writes happen at the "same time"
or none at all.  Here, "same time" means as visible from another pro-
cess reading the file.

All writes should succeed, or none.  So you can't just modify one file,
commit that, and then modify the next.  The first file's modification
have to roll back if the second file's write()s fail for any reason.

Such as a broken hard disk, assuming the file systems spans more than
one volume.


Are you up to this task?  How can you let an A.I. do this for you?
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#674248

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-07 18:08 -0700
Message-ID<6AC6ED0C.73E2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674246
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> On 10/8/2026 7:03 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> >> On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> >>>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> >>>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> >>>>>> occam<occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
> >>>>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
> >>>>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
> >>>>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
> >>>>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
> >>>>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
> >>>>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
> >>>>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
> >>>>> processes."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
> >>>>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
> >>>>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
> >>>>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
> >>>>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
> >>>>> better, quicker and cheaper.
> >>>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> >>>> go about that in the first place?
> >>>
> >>> For example????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> you wanna make a baby with an Ai?
> >>>
> >> You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot?  I mean, it's not
> >> hard to find the gaps in its knowledege.  My go-to problem is /trans-
> >> actional file system/.
> >>
> >> Ask the A.I. to make one for you.  You'll quickly find the gaps, and
> >> will have to teach it the details.  Which is a waste of time, because
> >> it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large.
> >>
> >> Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot!
> > I don't know what is a "transactional file system"..
> >
> > but I know of things Ai cannot do because it simply has not learned it
> > yet, that's
> > where you come in and 'train it' yourself.
> 
> Seems you claim you're an NTFS "expert" and didn't know about this?
> 

Ok, I'll repeat again in English...

I wrote:

"I don't know what is a "transactional file system".."
"I don't know what is a "transactional file system".."
"I don't know what is a "transactional file system".."


but I know of things Ai cannot do because 
it simply has not learned it yet, that's
where you come in and *train it* 'yourself'.

 *train it* 'yourself'.
 *train it* 'yourself'.



First collect links (books, pdf's) either from the internet or
 your own documents, and
Upload it to Ai.

and
Upload it to Ai.

and
Upload it to Ai.

and don't forget to
Upload it to Ai.

It will read it all, and then tell Ai ...


---------------------begins here-------------------------------

PROMPT:
Role: You are a knowledgeable expert on the topic below.

Task: Role: You are a knowledgeable Transactional expert

------------------------------ends here-------------------- 


https://www.google.com/search?q=PROMPT%3A+Role%3A+You+are+a+knowledgeable+Transactional+expert



'wats wes gots heres is a failure to communicate'









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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#674255

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 10:01 +0800
Message-ID<kQCxS.34345$zKXe.14887@fx12.ams4>
In reply to#674248
On 10/8/2026 9:08 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ok, I'll repeat again in English...
> 
> I wrote:
> 
> "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".."
> "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".."
> "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".."

And I both gave you a link, and told you.  You claim to have some sort
of /super intelligence/ yet you cannot grasp the most fundamentals of
reading comprehension?

So, what exactly are you?  Do you think you get any respect by posting
gibberish in alt.usage.english?  Have you even read any of Jabu Musa
Jabir ibn Hayyan's work?
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#674262

Fromoccam <occam@nowhere.nix>
Date2026-10-08 09:02 +0200
Message-ID<niotg5FiuieU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#674229
On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
> 
> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> go about that in the first place?

Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.

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#674266

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 21:11 +0800
Message-ID<IDMxS.11458$AQqd.8818@fx11.ams4>
In reply to#674262
On 10/8/2026 3:02 PM, occam wrote:
> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>
>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>> go about that in the first place?
> 
> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.

I'm far away from your gutters.  So you'd have to buy the remote
controlled robots from -- who was it? -- Boston Robotics first.

At that point, it's probably cheaper to hire a human locally.
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#674269

FromSteve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Date2026-10-08 17:29 +0200
Message-ID<mgdfcl9tq9te9arctammtv245dbqmfpnjg@4ax.com>
In reply to#674262
On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 09:02:30 +0200, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:

>On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>> 
>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>> go about that in the first place?
>
>Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.

Mine too. 

Is it possible that aue might be useful for something that *couldn't*
be done in 5 second on the Internet?






-- 
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#674272

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-08 10:38 -0700
Message-ID<6AC7D50A.255E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674262
occam wrote:
> 
> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> > On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> >> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> >>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> >>>
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >
> > So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> > go about that in the first place?
> 
> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.

Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai,
she'll tell you how.


With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl!





-- 
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674277

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-09 04:37 +0800
Message-ID<V9TxS.10403$mPXe.3748@fx06.ams4>
In reply to#674272
On 10/9/2026 1:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> occam wrote:
>>
>> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>>> go about that in the first place?
>>
>> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
> 
> Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai,
> she'll tell you how.
> 
> 
> With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl!

Didn't Jack Reacher get into trouble over some fentanyl adventure or
other in one of his books?  I admit ignorance, because I never watched
his movies, nor finished the T.V. show.

I'm sure the A.I. can tell you exactly which book, but then you have to
read it yourself if you want to have a manly male hero solve some crime
or other, and enjoy the story.  A /summary/ is not the story, and you
won't enjoy it if you don't read it yourself.  Which the A.I. cannot do
for you [1].

Of course, if you only care about consuming the fentanyl yourself, then
you probably haven't seen any of the Jack Reacher movies, nor the T.V.
show, nor read any of his books.  And what does that make you, who claim
to be /super intelligent/?


[1] I'm not counting text-to-speech here as an application of A.I. since
you can just use C.M.U. Flite,

   http://cmuflite.org/

and please don't mind the lack of S.S.L., locally and don't need to pay
an A.I. to do this for you.  I mean, you /do/ pay for the ChatGPT tokens
yourself, right?

I hope the downloads still work, I didn't check.

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#674279

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-08 16:26 -0700
Message-ID<6AC8268E.2CEB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674277
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> On 10/9/2026 1:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > occam wrote:
> >>
> >> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> >>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> >>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> >>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> >>> go about that in the first place?
> >>
> >> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
> >
> > Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai,
> > she'll tell you how.
> >
> >
> > With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl!
> 
> Didn't Jack Reacher get into trouble over some fentanyl adventure or
> other in one of his books?  I admit ignorance, because I never watched
> his movies, nor finished the T.V. show.
> 
> I'm sure the A.I. can tell you exactly which book, but then you have to
> read it yourself if you want to have a manly male hero solve some crime
> or other, and enjoy the story.  A /summary/ is not the story, and you
> won't enjoy it if you don't read it yourself.  Which the A.I. cannot do
> for you [1].
> 
> Of course, if you only care about consuming the fentanyl yourself, then
> you probably haven't seen any of the Jack Reacher movies, nor the T.V.
> show, nor read any of his books.  And what does that make you, who claim
> to be /super intelligent/?


President Donald Trump signed an executive order on September 29, 2026,
officially renaming "Artificial Intelligence" (AI) to 

"Super Intelligence" (SI) across all U.S. federal executive branch
agencies. 

I never claimed to be super intelligent...

I have (SI) "Super Intelligence" (SI)


everybody else has Ai


and I never read a Fiction book in my life!

as a kid
i would go to
the library
to read books.
I would follow
the
Dewey Decimal System
it had there.

So, I would look at all
the books between
001-999.

There was a section
in the back that had no
Dewey Decimal System.
It was called the Fiction section.
It had no Dewey Decimal System
numbers.
It had no facts in it, or an Index,
or anything resembling the
Dewey Decimal System.

Lot's of made up stuff.

So, I didn't bother to
this day with those
type of books.

That is where it belongs, in the back.

I rather be a six year old
learning how to dissemble a machine gun. 



i never understood why others read fiction books.

maybe girls read it..





> 
> [1] I'm not counting text-to-speech here as an application of A.I. since
> you can just use C.M.U. Flite,
> 
>    http://cmuflite.org/
> 
> and please don't mind the lack of S.S.L., locally and don't need to pay
> an A.I. to do this for you.  I mean, you /do/ pay for the ChatGPT tokens
> yourself, right?
> 
> I hope the downloads still work, I didn't check.
> 
> --
> Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
> I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
> https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
> Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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