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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700 |
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Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0000
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:15 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:03 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 12:59 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 04:20 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 16:03 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:35 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 18:08 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 10:01 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-08 09:02 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:11 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 17:29 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 10:38 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:37 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 16:26 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-18 12:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:17 -0600
Re: Super Intelligence Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-10-19 11:26 +1300
Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:49 -0600
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:49 +1100
Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 17:17 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 19:02 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:12 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-09 09:27 +1300
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:16 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:29 +1100
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:22 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence squalk <sq@net.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:17 +0100
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:43 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:26 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-08 11:00 +1300
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:47 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:53 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2026-10-07 02:55 -0400
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:08 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-07 23:04 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:32 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700 |
| Subject | Super Intelligence |
| Message-ID | <6ABC6FC3.4B51@ix.netcom.com> |
Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119igcu$1no7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #673896 |
Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human irrationality? -- guido wugi
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <119ihno$28sd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #673901 |
On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote: > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? Well, there's Dunning and Kruger. > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > irrationality? It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABD724E.4B04@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #673903 |
Peter Moylan wrote: > > On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote: > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > Well, there's Dunning and Kruger. > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > irrationality? > > It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of > the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent > to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in > safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president. When Albert Einstein builted the atomic bomb he didn't have any safeguards... just drop the thing. kill them all! You see, what THEY won't tell you.. Albert Einstein didn't believe human beings had any souls. > > -- > Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org > Newcastle, NSW -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | occam <occam@nowhere.nix> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni7ls0Fd4aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #673903 |
On 30/09/2026 10:37, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote: >> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > >>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > Well, there's Dunning and Kruger. > >> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >> irrationality? > > It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of > the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent > to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in > safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president. > Hmm, for once I find myself in agreement with the Drumph. To be clear, he is not blocking safeguards. He is saying slowing done AI development is not a good idea. He is correct in saying that, because if the competition (China, Russia) does not conform to those guidelines, they will end up with far more potent and aggressive AIs than those of OpenAI and Anthropic. Have you read Neal Stepheson's cyberpunk novels 'Snow Crash' and 'Cryptonomicon'? In there human agents don headgear and penetrate enemy cyber-defences, a bit like (virtual) fighter pilots navigating a war zone. Considering the novels were written in the 1990s - well before current AI developments - they are quite visionary.
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| From | Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 20:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119p5hf$pve$1@moist.bananacorp.nl.uucp> |
| In reply to | #674048 |
occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >On 30/09/2026 10:37, Peter Moylan wrote: >> On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote: >>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >> >>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? >> >> Well, there's Dunning and Kruger. >> >>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >>> irrationality? >> >> It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of >> the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent >> to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in >> safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president. >> >Hmm, for once I find myself in agreement with the Drumph. >To be clear, he is not blocking safeguards. He is saying slowing done AI >development is not a good idea. He is correct in saying that, because if >the competition (China, Russia) does not conform to those guidelines, >they will end up with far more potent and aggressive AIs than those of >OpenAI and Anthropic. >Have you read Neal Stepheson's cyberpunk novels 'Snow Crash' and >'Cryptonomicon'? In there human agents don headgear and penetrate enemy >cyber-defences, a bit like (virtual) fighter pilots navigating a war >zone. Considering the novels were written in the 1990s - well before >current AI developments - they are quite visionary. The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
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| From | occam <occam@nowhere.nix> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 17:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nin602Fb25eU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #674161 |
On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > <snip> > > The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it > will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological processes." The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only better, quicker and cheaper.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 02:03 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <tPvxS.406$SBg4.306@fx09.ams4> |
| In reply to | #674223 |
On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >> > > <snip> > >> >> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it >> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? > > It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. > <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> > > If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. > "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work > in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial > intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex > structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological > processes." > > The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic > coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; > made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. > > The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. > The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they > feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only > better, quicker and cheaper. So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I go about that in the first place? -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 12:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC6A495.6BD8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #674229 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > > On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > >> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > >> > > > > <snip> > > > >> > >> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it > >> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? > > > > It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. > > <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> > > > > If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. > > "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work > > in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial > > intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex > > structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological > > processes." > > > > The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic > > coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; > > made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. > > > > The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. > > The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they > > feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only > > better, quicker and cheaper. > > So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > go about that in the first place? For example???? you wanna make a baby with an Ai? > -- > Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ > I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com > https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; > Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 04:20 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <TPxxS.10455$AQqd.2783@fx11.ams4> |
| In reply to | #674239 |
On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>>> >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>> >>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it >>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? >>> >>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. >>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> >>> >>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. >>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work >>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial >>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex >>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological >>> processes." >>> >>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic >>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; >>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. >>> >>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. >>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they >>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only >>> better, quicker and cheaper. >> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I >> go about that in the first place? > > > For example???? > > > you wanna make a baby with an Ai? > You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot? I mean, it's not hard to find the gaps in its knowledege. My go-to problem is /trans- actional file system/. Ask the A.I. to make one for you. You'll quickly find the gaps, and will have to teach it the details. Which is a waste of time, because it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large. Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot! -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 16:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC6CFD5.DE8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #674241 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >> > >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > >>>> > >>> > >>> <snip> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it > >>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? > >>> > >>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. > >>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> > >>> > >>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. > >>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work > >>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial > >>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex > >>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological > >>> processes." > >>> > >>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic > >>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; > >>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. > >>> > >>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. > >>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they > >>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only > >>> better, quicker and cheaper. > >> > >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > >> go about that in the first place? > > > > > > For example???? > > > > > > you wanna make a baby with an Ai? > > > > You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot? I mean, it's not > hard to find the gaps in its knowledege. My go-to problem is /trans- > actional file system/. > > Ask the A.I. to make one for you. You'll quickly find the gaps, and > will have to teach it the details. Which is a waste of time, because > it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large. > > Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot! I don't know what is a "transactional file system".. but I know of things Ai cannot do because it simply has not learned it yet, that's where you come in and 'train it' yourself. First collect links either from the internet or your own documents, and Upload it to Ai. It will read it all, and tell Ai ... Role: You are a knowledgeable expert on the topic below. Task: Role: You are a knowledgeable Transactional NTFS expert Constraints: - If key details are missing, state your assumptions in one line, then answer. - Be specific and concrete; do not restate the task back to me. Output format: A structured answer with short paragraphs or bullets — whichever fits the content best. Tone: Professional but natural; no filler phrases. https://www.google.com/search?q=PROMPT%3A+Role%3A+You+are+a+knowledgeable+Transactional+NTFS+expert. (just mees with it to fit your needs) teach ai how to blow up the earth! > > -- > Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ > I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com > https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; > Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 07:35 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <IGAxS.568$SBg4.115@fx09.ams4> |
| In reply to | #674244 |
On 10/8/2026 7:03 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >>>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >>>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>>>>> occam<occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>>>>> >>>>> <snip> >>>>> >>>>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it >>>>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? >>>>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. >>>>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> >>>>> >>>>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. >>>>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work >>>>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial >>>>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex >>>>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological >>>>> processes." >>>>> >>>>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic >>>>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; >>>>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. >>>>> >>>>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. >>>>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they >>>>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only >>>>> better, quicker and cheaper. >>>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I >>>> go about that in the first place? >>> >>> For example???? >>> >>> >>> you wanna make a baby with an Ai? >>> >> You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot? I mean, it's not >> hard to find the gaps in its knowledege. My go-to problem is /trans- >> actional file system/. >> >> Ask the A.I. to make one for you. You'll quickly find the gaps, and >> will have to teach it the details. Which is a waste of time, because >> it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large. >> >> Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot! > I don't know what is a "transactional file system".. > > but I know of things Ai cannot do because it simply has not learned it > yet, that's > where you come in and 'train it' yourself. Seems you claim you're an NTFS "expert" and didn't know about this? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/about-transactional-ntfs Note, I don't really count NFTS as a /transactional file system/, be- cause Microsoft has deprecated this and might remove it without further notice. Now, do something similar for Linux, Unix of your choice. Why not Open- ZFS because that's also available for Windows? https://github.com/openzfsonwindows/openzfs/releases I don't care if you use Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Illumos, but please make this happen. The L.L.Ms. need to know how to do this, right? So you implement a file system where you can atomically modify two or more files, with the proviso that all writes happen at the "same time" or none at all. Here, "same time" means as visible from another pro- cess reading the file. All writes should succeed, or none. So you can't just modify one file, commit that, and then modify the next. The first file's modification have to roll back if the second file's write()s fail for any reason. Such as a broken hard disk, assuming the file systems spans more than one volume. Are you up to this task? How can you let an A.I. do this for you? -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 18:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC6ED0C.73E2@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #674246 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > On 10/8/2026 7:03 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >> On 10/8/2026 3:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >>>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > >>>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > >>>>>> occam<occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > >>>>>> > >>>>> <snip> > >>>>> > >>>>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it > >>>>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? > >>>>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. > >>>>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> > >>>>> > >>>>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. > >>>>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work > >>>>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial > >>>>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex > >>>>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological > >>>>> processes." > >>>>> > >>>>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic > >>>>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; > >>>>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. > >>>>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they > >>>>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only > >>>>> better, quicker and cheaper. > >>>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > >>>> go about that in the first place? > >>> > >>> For example???? > >>> > >>> > >>> you wanna make a baby with an Ai? > >>> > >> You don't know how to do something the A.I. cannot? I mean, it's not > >> hard to find the gaps in its knowledege. My go-to problem is /trans- > >> actional file system/. > >> > >> Ask the A.I. to make one for you. You'll quickly find the gaps, and > >> will have to teach it the details. Which is a waste of time, because > >> it forgets everything as soon as its window of context is too large. > >> > >> Best wishes, and happy doing something the A.I. cannot! > > I don't know what is a "transactional file system".. > > > > but I know of things Ai cannot do because it simply has not learned it > > yet, that's > > where you come in and 'train it' yourself. > > Seems you claim you're an NTFS "expert" and didn't know about this? > Ok, I'll repeat again in English... I wrote: "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".." "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".." "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".." but I know of things Ai cannot do because it simply has not learned it yet, that's where you come in and *train it* 'yourself'. *train it* 'yourself'. *train it* 'yourself'. First collect links (books, pdf's) either from the internet or your own documents, and Upload it to Ai. and Upload it to Ai. and Upload it to Ai. and don't forget to Upload it to Ai. It will read it all, and then tell Ai ... ---------------------begins here------------------------------- PROMPT: Role: You are a knowledgeable expert on the topic below. Task: Role: You are a knowledgeable Transactional expert ------------------------------ends here-------------------- https://www.google.com/search?q=PROMPT%3A+Role%3A+You+are+a+knowledgeable+Transactional+expert 'wats wes gots heres is a failure to communicate' -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 10:01 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <kQCxS.34345$zKXe.14887@fx12.ams4> |
| In reply to | #674248 |
On 10/8/2026 9:08 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Ok, I'll repeat again in English... > > I wrote: > > "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".." > "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".." > "I don't know what is a "transactional file system".." And I both gave you a link, and told you. You claim to have some sort of /super intelligence/ yet you cannot grasp the most fundamentals of reading comprehension? So, what exactly are you? Do you think you get any respect by posting gibberish in alt.usage.english? Have you even read any of Jabu Musa Jabir ibn Hayyan's work? -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | occam <occam@nowhere.nix> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 09:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <niotg5FiuieU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #674229 |
On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>> >> >> <snip> >> > > So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > go about that in the first place? Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 21:11 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <IDMxS.11458$AQqd.8818@fx11.ams4> |
| In reply to | #674262 |
On 10/8/2026 3:02 PM, occam wrote: > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>>> >>> >>> <snip> >>> >> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I >> go about that in the first place? > > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. I'm far away from your gutters. So you'd have to buy the remote controlled robots from -- who was it? -- Boston Robotics first. At that point, it's probably cheaper to hire a human locally. -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 17:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mgdfcl9tq9te9arctammtv245dbqmfpnjg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #674262 |
On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 09:02:30 +0200, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote: >On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>>> >>> >>> <snip> >>> >> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I >> go about that in the first place? > >Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. Mine too. Is it possible that aue might be useful for something that *couldn't* be done in 5 second on the Internet? -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 10:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC7D50A.255E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #674262 |
occam wrote: > > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > >> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > >>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > >>> > >> > >> <snip> > >> > > > > So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > > go about that in the first place? > > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai, she'll tell you how. With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 04:37 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <V9TxS.10403$mPXe.3748@fx06.ams4> |
| In reply to | #674272 |
On 10/9/2026 1:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > occam wrote: >> >> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>> >>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I >>> go about that in the first place? >> >> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. > > Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai, > she'll tell you how. > > > With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl! Didn't Jack Reacher get into trouble over some fentanyl adventure or other in one of his books? I admit ignorance, because I never watched his movies, nor finished the T.V. show. I'm sure the A.I. can tell you exactly which book, but then you have to read it yourself if you want to have a manly male hero solve some crime or other, and enjoy the story. A /summary/ is not the story, and you won't enjoy it if you don't read it yourself. Which the A.I. cannot do for you [1]. Of course, if you only care about consuming the fentanyl yourself, then you probably haven't seen any of the Jack Reacher movies, nor the T.V. show, nor read any of his books. And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/? [1] I'm not counting text-to-speech here as an application of A.I. since you can just use C.M.U. Flite, http://cmuflite.org/ and please don't mind the lack of S.S.L., locally and don't need to pay an A.I. to do this for you. I mean, you /do/ pay for the ChatGPT tokens yourself, right? I hope the downloads still work, I didn't check. -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 16:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC8268E.2CEB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #674277 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > On 10/9/2026 1:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > occam wrote: > >> > >> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > >>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > >>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> <snip> > >>>> > >>> > >>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > >>> go about that in the first place? > >> > >> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. > > > > Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai, > > she'll tell you how. > > > > > > With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl! > > Didn't Jack Reacher get into trouble over some fentanyl adventure or > other in one of his books? I admit ignorance, because I never watched > his movies, nor finished the T.V. show. > > I'm sure the A.I. can tell you exactly which book, but then you have to > read it yourself if you want to have a manly male hero solve some crime > or other, and enjoy the story. A /summary/ is not the story, and you > won't enjoy it if you don't read it yourself. Which the A.I. cannot do > for you [1]. > > Of course, if you only care about consuming the fentanyl yourself, then > you probably haven't seen any of the Jack Reacher movies, nor the T.V. > show, nor read any of his books. And what does that make you, who claim > to be /super intelligent/? President Donald Trump signed an executive order on September 29, 2026, officially renaming "Artificial Intelligence" (AI) to "Super Intelligence" (SI) across all U.S. federal executive branch agencies. I never claimed to be super intelligent... I have (SI) "Super Intelligence" (SI) everybody else has Ai and I never read a Fiction book in my life! as a kid i would go to the library to read books. I would follow the Dewey Decimal System it had there. So, I would look at all the books between 001-999. There was a section in the back that had no Dewey Decimal System. It was called the Fiction section. It had no Dewey Decimal System numbers. It had no facts in it, or an Index, or anything resembling the Dewey Decimal System. Lot's of made up stuff. So, I didn't bother to this day with those type of books. That is where it belongs, in the back. I rather be a six year old learning how to dissemble a machine gun. i never understood why others read fiction books. maybe girls read it.. > > [1] I'm not counting text-to-speech here as an application of A.I. since > you can just use C.M.U. Flite, > > http://cmuflite.org/ > > and please don't mind the lack of S.S.L., locally and don't need to pay > an A.I. to do this for you. I mean, you /do/ pay for the ChatGPT tokens > yourself, right? > > I hope the downloads still work, I didn't check. > > -- > Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ > I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com > https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; > Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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