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  sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-25 13:29 -0700
    Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 00:17 -0700
      Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 09:54 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 23:59 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-28 10:52 -0700
            Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-28 11:46 -0700
              Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-29 10:51 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 09:18 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 10:42 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:43 +0000
        Re: sci.physics.relativity Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 14:29 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 15:11 -0700
      Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 10:40 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:49 +0000
          Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 11:55 -0700
            Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 13:41 -0700
              Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 14:44 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:42 -0700
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:44 -0700
    Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-27 02:03 +1000
      Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-26 19:29 +0200
        Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-27 21:23 +1000
          Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-27 15:22 +0200
            Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-28 05:10 +1000
            Re: sci.physics.relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-28 09:09 -0500
              Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 11:36 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 12:36 -0700
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 16:55 -0700
                    Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 10:52 -0700
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-30 12:49 -0700
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-30 21:53 -0700
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 19:05 -0700
                          Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-03 06:44 +0000
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:43 -0700
                          Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-02 23:53 -0700
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 13:47 -0700
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 14:46 -0700
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 15:47 -0700
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:52 -0700
                                  Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-05 12:07 -0700
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 15:01 -0700
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 22:06 +0000
              Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-28 11:08 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-06-29 12:18 +1000
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 18:49 +0200
                    Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-01 13:05 +1000
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-03 01:02 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-29 10:11 -0500
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:55 +0000
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 19:14 +0200
                    Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-10 11:32 +1000
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-10 20:48 +0200
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 10:54 +0000
                          Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 05:00 +0200
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-12 20:30 +1000
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 11:00 +0000
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:31 +0200
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:29 +0200
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 09:39 -0700
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 10:58 +0000
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:34 +0200
              Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-06-29 12:02 +1000

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#462612 — sci.physics.relativity

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-25 13:29 -0700
Subjectsci.physics.relativity
Message-ID<5B3150BE.2A5D@ix.netcom.com>
What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
matter..

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#462661

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-26 00:17 -0700
Message-ID<5B31E87D.6C2B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#462612
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> matter..



i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.

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#462689

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-26 09:54 -0700
Message-ID<5B326FCE.1C4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#462661
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > matter..
> 
> i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.


I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...


"Why relativity?"



I mean, why of all things on earth..

of all things in the universe...

why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?


Did he have a choice?


Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."


So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?

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#462760

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-26 23:59 -0700
Message-ID<5B3335CA.3674@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#462689
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > matter..
> >
> > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> 
> I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> 
> "Why relativity?"
> 
> I mean, why of all things on earth..
> 
> of all things in the universe...
> 
> why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> 
> Did he have a choice?
> 
> Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."
> 
> So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?


For example...when Albert Einstein worked at the patent office..
there was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks came about.
Albert Einstein was dealing with patents relating to the synchronization of the clocks at
train stations.

It seems he had no choice...but to think only about...clocks, and trains. That was his job.

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#462862

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-28 10:52 -0700
Message-ID<5B352055.3352@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#462760
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > > matter..
> > >
> > > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> >
> > I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> >
> > "Why relativity?"
> >
> > I mean, why of all things on earth..
> >
> > of all things in the universe...
> >
> > why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> >
> > Did he have a choice?
> >
> > Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."
> >
> > So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?
> 
> For example...when Albert Einstein worked at the patent office..
> there was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks came about.
> Albert Einstein was dealing with patents relating to the synchronization of the clocks at
> train stations.
> 
> It seems he had no choice...but to think only about...clocks, and trains. That was his job.


In other words...

Einstein had no choice to come up with the theory of relativity because it was his job to come up with it.

He found out that clocks moving to one another would not run at the same speed because everybody was trying to
file patents where he worked at for the...synchronization of clocks for train stations.

There was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks, and he had no choice but to...think about it.


Yous people don't even know the history of...sci.physics.relativity

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#462873

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-28 11:46 -0700
Message-ID<5B352CFA.7040@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#462862
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > > > matter..
> > > >
> > > > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> > >
> > > I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> > >
> > > "Why relativity?"
> > >
> > > I mean, why of all things on earth..
> > >
> > > of all things in the universe...
> > >
> > > why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> > >
> > > Did he have a choice?
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."
> > >
> > > So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?
> >
> > For example...when Albert Einstein worked at the patent office..
> > there was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks came about.
> > Albert Einstein was dealing with patents relating to the synchronization of the clocks at
> > train stations.
> >
> > It seems he had no choice...but to think only about...clocks, and trains. That was his job.
> 
> In other words...
> 
> Einstein had no choice to come up with the theory of relativity because it was his job to come up with it.
> 
> He found out that clocks moving to one another would not run at the same speed because everybody was trying to
> file patents where he worked at for the...synchronization of clocks for train stations.
> 
> There was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks, and he had no choice but to...think about it.
> 
> Yous people don't even know the history of...sci.physics.relativity



Now, what *all* people don't know...is that Albert Einstein was using the patent offices to file...'fake patents'.

The designs were real, but the wordings were fake...it was Albert Einstein way of passing atomic bomb secrets to the Russians.

People thought that the patents didn't work..it was because the wording were fake.

For example...what you thought to be a refridgerator, was in fact a nuclear reactor

what you thought to be a patent for a nuclear reactor was in fact...The Fat Man...the actual device design you drop on the Germans or Japaneese.


what you thought was a woman's blouse was in fact a design for a radiation vest. 


Of course, all this is in my book which you problaby haven't read yet..

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html

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#462981

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-29 10:51 -0700
Message-ID<5B3671A4.6D9C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#462873
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > > > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > > > > matter..
> > > > >
> > > > > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> > > >
> > > > I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> > > >
> > > > "Why relativity?"
> > > >
> > > > I mean, why of all things on earth..
> > > >
> > > > of all things in the universe...
> > > >
> > > > why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> > > >
> > > > Did he have a choice?
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."
> > > >
> > > > So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?
> > >
> > > For example...when Albert Einstein worked at the patent office..
> > > there was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks came about.
> > > Albert Einstein was dealing with patents relating to the synchronization of the clocks at
> > > train stations.
> > >
> > > It seems he had no choice...but to think only about...clocks, and trains. That was his job.

> >
> > In other words...
> >
> > Einstein had no choice to come up with the theory of relativity because it was his job to come up with it.
> >
> > He found out that clocks moving to one another would not run at the same speed because everybody was trying to
> > file patents where he worked at for the...synchronization of clocks for train stations.
> >
> > There was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks, and he had no choice but to...think about it.
> >
> > Yous people don't even know the history of...sci.physics.relativity
> 
> Now, what *all* people don't know...is that Albert Einstein was using the patent offices to file...'fake patents'.
> 
> The designs were real, but the wordings were fake...it was Albert Einstein way of passing atomic bomb secrets to the Russians.
> 
> People thought that the patents didn't work..it was because the wording were fake.
> 
> For example...what you thought to be a refridgerator, was in fact a nuclear reactor
> 
> what you thought to be a patent for a nuclear reactor was in fact...The Fat Man...the actual device design you drop on the Germans or Japaneese.
> 
> what you thought was a woman's blouse was in fact a design for a radiation vest.
> 
> Of course, all this is in my book which you problaby haven't read yet..
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html


of course if Albert Einstein were living today he probably would send atomic bomb secrets using email...

he wouldn't push the send button...he would simply write the email and save it as a draft...then give out the password
and the russians would read the unsent emails then delete it.

And Albert Einstein would say..."I never sent the russians any emails!"

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#463351

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-07-03 09:18 -0700
Message-ID<5B3BA1BF.1B76@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#462981
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > > > > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > > > > > matter..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Why relativity?"
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, why of all things on earth..
> > > > >
> > > > > of all things in the universe...
> > > > >
> > > > > why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did he have a choice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."
> > > > >
> > > > > So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?
> > > >
> > > > For example...when Albert Einstein worked at the patent office..
> > > > there was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks came about.
> > > > Albert Einstein was dealing with patents relating to the synchronization of the clocks at

> > > > train stations.
> > > >
> > > > It seems he had no choice...but to think only about...clocks, and trains. That was his job.
> 
> > >
> > > In other words...
> > >
> > > Einstein had no choice to come up with the theory of relativity because it was his job to come up with it.
> > >
> > > He found out that clocks moving to one another would not run at the same speed because everybody was trying to
> > > file patents where he worked at for the...synchronization of clocks for train stations.
> > >
> > > There was at the time an urgent technological problem of coordinating time along train tracks, and he had no choice but to...think about it.
> > >
> > > Yous people don't even know the history of...sci.physics.relativity
> >
> > Now, what *all* people don't know...is that Albert Einstein was using the patent offices to file...'fake patents'.
> >
> > The designs were real, but the wordings were fake...it was Albert Einstein way of passing atomic bomb secrets to the Russians.
> >
> > People thought that the patents didn't work..it was because the wording were fake.
> >
> > For example...what you thought to be a refridgerator, was in fact a nuclear reactor
> >
> > what you thought to be a patent for a nuclear reactor was in fact...The Fat Man...the actual device design you drop on the Germans or Japaneese.
> >
> > what you thought was a woman's blouse was in fact a design for a radiation vest.
> >
> > Of course, all this is in my book which you problaby haven't read yet..
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html
> 
> of course if Albert Einstein were living today he probably would send atomic bomb secrets using email...
> 
> he wouldn't push the send button...he would simply write the email and save it as a draft...then give out the password
> and the russians would read the unsent emails then delete it.
> 
> And Albert Einstein would say..."I never sent the russians any emails!"


Now, here you have (Albert Einstein) a guy who spent around ten years working at a patent office...
(you work ten years at anything you become a genuis at it) and at the same time  mastered machine technology...

then he comes up with this patent:
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/96/32/09/16c58837767d66/USD101756.pdf
https://patents.google.com/patent/USD101756S/en?inventor=Albert+Einstein


Now, you have to ask yourself a question..."Why?"

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#462779

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-27 10:42 -0700
Message-ID<d3b6745d-aadf-46b4-b91c-60b36000910e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#462689
On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 10:23:01 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > matter..
> > 
> > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> 
> I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> 
> "Why relativity?"
> 
> I mean, why of all things on earth..
> 
> of all things in the universe...
> 
> why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?

Because of electrodynamics, esp. the strange properties of Maxwell's
equations which were puzzling to everyone at the time.

--
Jan

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#462953

FromOren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp>
Date2018-06-29 15:43 +0000
Message-ID<ph5k27$1r84$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#462779
JanPB wrote:

>> why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> 
> Because of electrodynamics, esp. the strange properties of Maxwell's
> equations which were puzzling to everyone at the time.

Not plausible, he read patent application papers at that time. You need a 
refresh.

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#462795

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-27 14:29 -0700
Message-ID<a3146f3a-fed1-4078-9dee-4fb2d938d79c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#462689
On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 7:23:01 AM UTC-10, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > matter..
> > 
> > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> 
> 
> I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> 
> 
> "Why relativity?"
> 
> 
> 
> I mean, why of all things on earth..
> 
> of all things in the universe...
> 
> why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> 
> 
> Did he have a choice?
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."
> 
> 
> So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?

Einstein chose relativity in 1915 because 
in 1920 protons were understood,
in 1932 neutrons were discovered.

So Albert did his best using algebra and no material knowledge.
His lumped functional models are good enough for rock and roll.

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#462797

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-27 15:11 -0700
Message-ID<ba7073cc-d8cd-4944-ac16-b170efd5ba10@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#462795
On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 2:29:21 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 7:23:01 AM UTC-10, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > 
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > > > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > > > matter..
> > > 
> > > i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.
> > 
> > 
> > I mean, you gotta ask yourself a question...
> > 
> > 
> > "Why relativity?"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I mean, why of all things on earth..
> > 
> > of all things in the universe...
> > 
> > why did Albert Einstein choose...relativity?
> > 
> > 
> > Did he have a choice?
> > 
> > 
> > Albert Einstein once asked "What really interest me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the universe."
> > 
> > 
> > So, the question is ...Did Albert Einstein had any choice in the creation of the theory of relativity?
> 
> Einstein chose relativity in 1915 because 
> in 1920 protons were understood,
> in 1932 neutrons were discovered.
> 
> So Albert did his best using algebra and no material knowledge.
> His lumped functional models are good enough for rock and roll.

Word salad.

--
Jan

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#462778

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-27 10:40 -0700
Message-ID<f65e3d23-f05d-45dd-98f7-228df81e93e5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#462661
On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:17:24 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > What does physics have to do with relativity, there is no
> > matter or energy in...relativity? Not even Time has no energy or
> > matter..
> 
> i mean, 'relativity'.. is not even a...thing.

You need to study physics to understand why relativity is exactly like any
other theory in physics.

The confusion regarding relativity is entirely due to ignorance and esp. the
little-knowledge-is-a-dangerous-thing phenomenon.

Other theories in physics are too difficult for a layman to even gain
the little-knowledge-of, so the "problem" doesn't even arise.

--
Jan

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#462954

FromOren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp>
Date2018-06-29 15:49 +0000
Message-ID<ph5kdh$1r84$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#462778
JanPB wrote:

> Other theories in physics are too difficult for a layman to even gain
> the little-knowledge-of, so the "problem" doesn't even arise.

"If you can't explain the mechanism in those theories in two lines, those 
theories are wrong.".

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#463360

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-03 11:55 -0700
Message-ID<87636221-9e18-4e2a-812b-c59e9eb9e03f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#462954
On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 8:49:08 AM UTC-7, Oren Woodcock wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> > Other theories in physics are too difficult for a layman to even gain
> > the little-knowledge-of, so the "problem" doesn't even arise.
> 
> "If you can't explain the mechanism in those theories in two lines, those 
> theories are wrong.".

This is simply a false statement.

--
Jan

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#463363

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-07-03 13:41 -0700
Message-ID<5B3BDF5F.6057@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#463360
JanPB wrote:

> This is simply a false statement.
> 
> --
> Jan


Is it a true statement?

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#463443

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-04 14:44 -0700
Message-ID<4c03adeb-3d94-4718-af0d-c7740f952110@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#463363
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 1:41:15 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> > This is simply a false statement.
> > 
> > --
> > Jan
> 
> 
> Is it a true statement?

Get a life.

--
Jan

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#463455

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-07-04 17:42 -0700
Message-ID<5B3D6990.5E33@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#463443
JanPB wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 1:41:15 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> >
> > > This is simply a false statement.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jan
> >
> >
> > Is it a true statement?
> 
> Get a life.
> 
> --
> Jan


So, your statement is flase.

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#463456

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-07-04 17:44 -0700
Message-ID<5B3D69E8.C21@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#463455
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> JanPB wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 1:41:15 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > JanPB wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is simply a false statement.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > > Is it a true statement?
> >
> > Get a life.
> >
> > --
> > Jan
> 
> So, your statement is flase.

i mean, false...(i have to many keyboards..)

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#462687

FromSolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
Date2018-06-27 02:03 +1000
Message-ID<riydyyo5ylpu.3vlk44ql9jnc.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#462612
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:29:50 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> What does physics have to do with relativity, 

Physics needs it as relativity exists in Newtonian physics too. 

Newton stated that "The laws of physics are the same for any observer
moving at constant speed."

Contrary to what many say here there is no such thing as absolute space or
time in Newtonian physics, these are measured from some arbitrary point.

Of course before any smarty jump in, Newton was only here concerned with
the physics of moving objects  and not about other physical things such as
electromagnetism. 

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