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  LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-17 10:21 -0700
    Re: LIGO 2016 Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-17 19:22 +0000
      Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-18 13:46 +0200
        Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 05:19 -0700
          Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-18 16:04 +0200
            Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 07:09 -0700
              Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 02:54 +0200
                Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 22:20 -0700
                  Re: LIGO 2016 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:01 +0000
                    Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 07:53 -0700
                  Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 19:46 +0200
                    Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 11:48 -0700
                      Re: LIGO 2016 Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cs> - 2018-08-19 18:59 +0000
        Re: LIGO 2016 Sushika Imaki <kukih@wkkss.ki> - 2018-08-18 18:01 +0000
          Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-18 12:42 -0700
          Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 04:34 +0200
            Re: LIGO 2016 Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cc> - 2018-08-19 11:11 +0000
              Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 19:06 +0200
                Re: LIGO 2016 Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cs> - 2018-08-19 18:54 +0000
        Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 11:55 -0700
          Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 23:20 +0200
            Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:31 -0700
              Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 00:08 +0200
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:39 -0700
                  Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 17:56 -0700
                    Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 03:27 +0200
                      Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 20:48 -0700
                        Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 10:38 +0200
                          Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 08:53 -0700
                            Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:11 -0700
                              Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 18:30 +0200
                                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:41 -0700
                                  Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 10:06 -0700
                                    Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 10:54 -0700
                                      Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 11:06 -0700
                            Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:32 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 21:26 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 12:06 +0000
                  Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 16:08 +0200
    Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-18 12:39 -0700
    Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-18 12:50 -0700
    Re: LIGO 2016 consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 09:42 -0700
    Re: LIGO 2016 consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 09:51 -0700
    Re: LIGO 2016 consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 14:17 -0700
    Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 17:22 -0700
    Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:59 -0700

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#468158 — LIGO 2016

The Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGO (2016) detected stellar gravitational waves (gravitons) that are formed by the merging of two black holes that gravitational waves are detected using a laser interferometer. 

 

"Observation of Gravitational Waves from a Binary Black Hole Merger"  (Abbot, Title, PRL 116, 061102, 2016).   


"On September 14, 2015 at 09:50:45 UTC the two detectors of the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory simultaneously observed a transient gravitational-wave signal. The signal sweeps upwards in frequency from 35 to 250 Hz with a peak gravitational-wave strain of 1.0 × 10-21." (Abbot, Abstract, PRL 116, 061102, 2016).

"For quasicircular inspirals,these are predicted uniquely by Einstein’s equations as a function of the masses and spins of the two progenitor black holes."  (Abbot,  § VI, PRL 116, 061102, 2016).

"In summary, all three tests are consistent with the predictions of general relativity in the strong-field regime of gravity."  (Abbot,  § VI, PRL 116, 061102, 2016).



The LIGO detected celestial electromagnetic gravitational waves (gravitons) that originates from a pulsar that produces a 10-21 strain which represents a disturbance of the position of the interferometer mirror but the estimated mirror's positional disturbance of 10-18 m is three orders of magnitude less than the diameter of an electron which is an unrealistic mechanism. Example, if a person on the west coast of the USA is bowing towards the west, the Dalai Lama at the top of the Ganden Phodrang cannot see the person bowing using a telescope. The LIGO strain magnitude of 10-21 strain is similar to a positive result of the hand waving example. Also, gravitational physics is based on Einstein's general relativity that uses Maxwell's equations that are derived using Faraday's induction effect that is not a gravitational effect. The argument is used to justify gravitational waves by stating that gravity waves are not electromagnetic waves and that Einstein's time-space produces gravitational waves but time-space is a coordinate system not a structure. Altering the dimensions of a coordinate system (time-space) does not represent a structure which invalidates using time-space to represent the structure of the entity that produces gravity.

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#468166

numbernumber1964 wrote:


> The Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGO (2016)
> detected stellar gravitational waves (gravitons) that are formed by the
> merging of two black holes that gravitational waves are detected using a
> laser interferometer.

Yet you can't even see one black hole, much less two merging. The story is 
fake news.

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#468229

The ’nym-shifting troll demonstrated their ignorance as "Lovu Biftek"
<ufeli@fupuks.cl>:

> numbernumber1964 wrote:
>> The Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGO (2016)
>> detected stellar gravitational waves (gravitons) that are formed by the
>> merging of two black holes that gravitational waves are detected using a
>> laser interferometer.
> 
> Yet you can't even see one black hole, much less two merging. The story is 
> fake news.

One does NOT use visible light to observe the merger of black holes
DIRECTLY.  One uses a laser to detect the CHANGE IN LENGTH of an
INTERFEROMETER ARM, which can only be caused by a GRAVITATIONAL WAVE passing
through the interferometer, which can only be caused by a merger of black
holes and similar events.

However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two NEUTRON
STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including visible light,
and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the gravitational waves caused
by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.

As you could have learned if you had actually followed the news.  (You would
not even had to read a/the scientific paper[s], which you are manifestly
unable to anyway, thanks you your complete lack of understanding of English.)

<https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/> pp.

*PLONK*

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#468234

On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:

> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two NEUTRON
> STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including visible light,
> and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the gravitational waves caused
> by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.

Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.

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#468241

mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:

> On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> wrote:
>> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
>> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including
>> visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the
>> gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF
>> SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
>> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
>> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
>> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
> 
> Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.

For the intellectually challenged:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>


PointedEars
-- 
Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet?  
A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front
   I find myself very attracted to you.
(from: WolframAlpha)

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#468242

On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:
> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> > wrote:
> >> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
> >> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including
> >> visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the
> >> gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF
> >> SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
> >> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
> >> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
> >> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
> 
> For the intellectually challenged:
> 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>


And communism is the best. Here is the proof:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/index.htm

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#468307

mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:

> On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> wrote:
>> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>> > wrote:
>> >> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
>> >> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including
>> >> visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the
>> >> gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF
>> >> SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
>> >> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
>> >> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
>> >> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
>> > Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
>> For the intellectually challenged:
>> 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>
> 
> [unrelated nonsense]

The Date header field of your posting shows that you have replied to my 
posting only 5 minutes later.

The video I referred to in it is 8 minutes 20 seconds long.

This tells me:

1. You have too much free time on your hands for your own good.

2. Since you are using Google Groups, you must be spending your free time
   with frantically updating the posting in sci.physics.relativity to find
   postings that you can, cluelessly, disagree with, for your self-
   aggrandizement.

3. You have not watched the video to the end, if at all, before replying.
   This is the /modus operandi/ of an ignorant.

4. Not only you do not know what you are talking about; you do not want to
   know.  This is the /modus operandi/ of a believer: a believer will
   disregard all evidence that is (potentially) contrary to their belief;
   in this case, your belief that our universe would be easy to understand
   (so that your puny mind would be able to understand it, which would give
   your sorry existence some meaning), and that the elaborate descriptions
   that science has come up with would be part of some sort of conspiracy
   based on belief, to keep you from learning the simple universal truth.

Well, (not really) sorry to break it to you, the simple truth is instead: 
the ways to describe our universe properly are not simple because our 
universe is not.  It is awfully complicated, which is why after about 400 
years we have only managed to figure out a small part of it – but that well.  
It is why it takes long and hard studying to understand how it probably 
works; why it takes a scientist, and not only only a laymen like yourself, 
to work on those problems.

The record shows that it can be expected that you reply to this with some 
sort of half-wit nonsense.  It would be agreeable if you disappointed that 
expectation for a change.


PointedEars
-- 
Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door
   when he went camping?  
A: 'Gone fission'.
(from: WolframAlpha)

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#468316

On Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:54:53 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:
> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> > wrote:
> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
> >> >> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including
> >> >> visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the
> >> >> gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF
> >> >> SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
> >> >> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
> >> >> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
> >> >> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
> >> > Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
> >> For the intellectually challenged:
> >> 
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>
> > 
> > [unrelated nonsense]
> 
> The Date header field of your posting shows that you have replied to my 
> posting only 5 minutes later.
> 
> The video I referred to in it is 8 minutes 20 seconds long.
> 
> This tells me:


You're  hearing strange voices.
The truth, however, is simple. I had already
learned your "evidence", and it's no way 
better than the medieval evidence for angels 
pushing planets on crystal rings (which was:
the planets move).

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#468342

<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:54:53 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:
>> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> 
>>> On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
>>> wrote:
>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
>>>>>> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including
>>>>>> visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the
>>>>>> gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF
>>>>>> SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
>>>>>> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
>>>>>> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
>>>>>> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
>>>>> Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
>>>> For the intellectually challenged:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>
>>> 
>>> [unrelated nonsense]
>> 
>> The Date header field of your posting shows that you have replied to my 
>> posting only 5 minutes later.
>> 
>> The video I referred to in it is 8 minutes 20 seconds long.
>> 
>> This tells me:
> 
> 
> You're  hearing strange voices.
> The truth, however, is simple. I had already
> learned your "evidence", and it's no way 
> better than the medieval evidence for angels 
> pushing planets on crystal rings (which was:
> the planets move).
> 
> 

Wozniak is what’s called a Determined Disbeliever. 

He views this as a virtue. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#468347

On Sunday, 19 August 2018 16:01:44 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:54:53 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:
> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
> >>>>>> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including
> >>>>>> visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the
> >>>>>> gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF
> >>>>>> SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
> >>>>>> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
> >>>>>> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
> >>>>>> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
> >>>>> Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
> >>>> For the intellectually challenged:
> >>>> 
> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>
> >>> 
> >>> [unrelated nonsense]
> >> 
> >> The Date header field of your posting shows that you have replied to my 
> >> posting only 5 minutes later.
> >> 
> >> The video I referred to in it is 8 minutes 20 seconds long.
> >> 
> >> This tells me:
> > 
> > 
> > You're  hearing strange voices.
> > The truth, however, is simple. I had already
> > learned your "evidence", and it's no way 
> > better than the medieval evidence for angels 
> > pushing planets on crystal rings (which was:
> > the planets move).
> > 
> > 
> 
> Wozniak is what’s called a Determined Disbeliever. 
> 
> He views this as a virtue. 

While Bodkin is a fanatic follower.
He views it as a virtue.

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#468363

mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:

> On Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:54:53 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> wrote:
>> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>> > wrote:
>> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars'
>> >> > Lahn wrote:
>> >> >> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
>> >> >> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum,
>> >> >> including visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED
>> >> >> that the gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE
>> >> >> SAME AREA OF SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
>> >> >> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
>> >> >> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general
>> >> >> relativity provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
>> >> > Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
>> >> For the intellectually challenged:
>> >> 
>> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>
>> > 
>> > [unrelated nonsense]
>> 
>> The Date header field of your posting shows that you have replied to my
>> posting only 5 minutes later.
>> 
>> The video I referred to in it is 8 minutes 20 seconds long.
>> 
>> This tells me:
> 
> You're  hearing strange voices.

Not at all.  My conclusions, some of which are conjectures (granted), follow 
logically from your irrational actions.

> The truth, however, is simple. I had already
> learned your "evidence",

No, you have not.  You have not even understood how it was obtained, which 
is why you are blathering nonsense about it.

> and it's no way better than the medieval evidence for angels
> pushing planets on crystal rings (which was:
> the planets move).

But it is.  By contrast to the angels, it is not just a fantasy: it has been 
MEASURED VERY PRECISELY and it agrees with the computer simulations that are 
based on CALCULATIONS.

Your problem is that YOU just HAVE NO CLUE at all.  Your other problem is 
that you are actually proud about that.

  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNgIl-qIklU>

    “In my experience, there’s a lot of people out there who understand
     that they can’t understand it, and are very glad that somebody can.
     There’s also people who are very resentful.  They’re resentful…
     They think there’s a conspiracy, a conspiracy that ‘the priesthood
     of science’ is hiding something.”

       —Dr. Leonard Susskind, theoretical physicist

Recognize yourself in the latter?

   “Can you tell them no?”

Susskind:

   “No, no, no.  We’re not hiding anything.  WE WANT MORE THAN ANYTHING
    ELSE THAT PEOPLE should listen to us, and UNDERSTAND WHAT WE’RE SAYING.
    But we’re stuck with this obstacle of mathematics.”

Now listen very carefully what the guys making this video are telling you IN 
PLAIN ENGLISH.  I write it in capital letters again so that it hopefully 
gets through your thick skull:

  “So if you want to understand the universe beyond the basic stuff that we
   can see and touch, YOU GOTTA LEARN THE MATH.

   But IT’S ALSO OK if you don’t know the math, because THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
   THERE WHO DEVOTED THEIR LIVES AND YEARS OF RESEARCH TO UNDERSTANDING THIS
   STUFF, AND THEY [SCIENTISTS] ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB.  Science is a
   CONSTANTLY EVOLVING field.  But THERE IS PLENTY THAT THEY [SCIENTISTS]
   DO KNOW.  And THEY’RE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AT MAKING PREDICTIONS.
   […]”

Susskind:

  “[…] And I think one can be pretty sure that anybody who thinks they have
   the final answer now is smoking something bad.  Or maybe they should be
   smoking something better :)”

I think this sums it up nicely.


PointedEars
-- 
Two neutrinos go through a bar ...

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#468366

On Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:46:49 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:
> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:54:53 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> > wrote:
> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> >> >> > Lahn wrote:
> >> >> >> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
> >> >> >> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum,
> >> >> >> including visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED
> >> >> >> that the gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE
> >> >> >> SAME AREA OF SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
> >> >> >> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
> >> >> >> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general
> >> >> >> relativity provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
> >> >> > Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
> >> >> For the intellectually challenged:
> >> >> 
> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>
> >> > 
> >> > [unrelated nonsense]
> >> 
> >> The Date header field of your posting shows that you have replied to my
> >> posting only 5 minutes later.
> >> 
> >> The video I referred to in it is 8 minutes 20 seconds long.
> >> 
> >> This tells me:
> > 
> > You're  hearing strange voices.
> 
> Not at all.  My conclusions, some of which are conjectures (granted), follow 
> logically from your irrational actions.


Every fanatic idiot of the world is convinced
that his conclusions follow logically, so you're
no way an exception.

> 
> > The truth, however, is simple. I had already
> > learned your "evidence",
> 
> No, you have not. 


Yes I have.


> You have not even understood how it was obtained, which 
> is why you are blathering nonsense about it.


You're free to rave and spit.


> 
> > and it's no way better than the medieval evidence for angels
> > pushing planets on crystal rings (which was:
> > the planets move).
> 
> But it is.

Every fanatic idiot of the world is convinced
that his bullshit is "confirmed",  so you're
no way an exception.

Your problem is that YOU just HAVE NO CLUE at all.  
Your other problem is that you are actually proud 
about that.

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#468371

Il giorno domenica *_mlwozniak_* ha scritto:

>> >> This tells me:
>> > 
>> > You're  hearing strange voices.
>> 
>> Not at all.  My conclusions, some of which are conjectures (granted),
>> follow logically from your irrational actions.
>  
> Every fanatic idiot of the world is convinced that his conclusions
> follow logically, so you're no way an exception.

He's seemingly autistic, violating written and unwritten norms on usenet.

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#468260

the unemployable HARTZ-4 recipient Thomas 'ShitEars' Lahn wrote:

> The ’nym-shifting troll demonstrated their ignorance as "Lovu Biftek"
> <ufeli@fupuks.cl>:
> 
>> numbernumber1964 wrote:
>>> The Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGO (2016)
>>> detected stellar gravitational waves (gravitons) that are formed by
>>> the merging of two black holes that gravitational waves are detected
>>> using a laser interferometer.
>> 
>> Yet you can't even see one black hole, much less two merging. The story
>> is fake news.
> 
> One does NOT use visible light to observe the merger of black holes
> DIRECTLY.  One uses a laser to detect the CHANGE IN LENGTH of an

In physics "seeing" not always involves light. Why are you so stupid. You 
feed your output data from a setup experiment, or a model, into an 
interpreter along a region or a domain.

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#468273

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS810US810&biw=1920&bih=947&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=LnZ4W56rNPi_0PEP9LeMwA0&q=girl+model+with+a+domain&oq=girl+model+with+a+domain&gs_l=img.3...5753.7183.0.7920.5.5.0.0.0.0.53.256.5.5.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.0.0....0.ToQ7uj1RKD8#imgrc=j33h_o8wb5GPIM:


She has nice pubic domains, but I cannot see everything.

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#468309

The ’nym-shifting troll demonstrated their enormous ignorance about all
things as "Sushika Imaki" <kukih@wkkss.ki>:
                       ^^^^^^^^
> the unemployable HARTZ-4 recipient Thomas 'ShitEars' Lahn wrote:

Contrary to you dimwit, I have a really nice job near the university where
I am studying physics and astronomy, and I do not live in Germany anymore,
so I could not be a recipient of „Hartz Ⅳ“ (which is NOT an abbreviation)
anyway, thank you very much.  Now, PLEASE, FUCK OFF (before someone forces
you to)!

>> The ’nym-shifting troll demonstrated their ignorance as "Lovu Biftek"
>> <ufeli@fupuks.cl>:
>>> Yet you can't even see one black hole, much less two merging. The story
>>> is fake news.
>>
>> One does NOT use visible light to observe the merger of black holes
>> DIRECTLY.  One uses a laser to detect the CHANGE IN LENGTH of an
> 
> In physics "seeing" not always involves light. Why are you so stupid. You 
> feed your output data from a setup experiment, or a model, into an 
> interpreter along a region or a domain.

I would tell you to learn to read my postings comprehensively, but you are
evidently too mindbogglingly stupid for that.  Find a truck to run over you.
 NOW.

*PLONK*

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#468328

Il giorno martedì Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn ha scritto:

> "Prof. Sushika Imaki" <kukih@wkkss.ki>:
>> the unemployable HARTZ-4 recipient Thomas 'ShitEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> Contrary to you dimwit, I have a really nice job near the university
> where I am studying physics and astronomy, and I do not live in Germany
> anymore, so I could not be a recipient of „Hartz Ⅳ“ (which is NOT an
> abbreviation) anyway, thank you very much.  Now, PLEASE, FUCK OFF
> (before someone forces you to)!

This language must be what you are using inside inner circle of your 
family, with your mother especially.

I believe what Dr. Sushika wrote is based on the stupidities and 
incompetencies in Physics and other Various Domains, displayed by you 
constantly all the time, soon you manage putting two words together in 
English, substantially helped by Google Translate. Obvious for anyone, 
capable to read, that you are chronically unemployable.

And you don't know what a plonk stands for, right now as we speak.

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#468361

The ’nym-shifting troll trolled as "Icano Bologna" <ob@woccgn.cc>:
> Il giorno martedì Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn ha scritto:
>> [The ’nym-shifting troll trolled as] "Sushika Imaki" <kukih@wkkss.ki>:
                                                               ^^^^^^^^
>>> the unemployable HARTZ-4 recipient Thomas 'ShitEars' Lahn wrote:
>>
>> Contrary to you dimwit, I have a really nice job near the university
>> where I am studying physics and astronomy, and I do not live in Germany
>> anymore, so I could not be a recipient of „Hartz Ⅳ“ (which is NOT an
>> abbreviation) anyway, thank you very much.  Now, PLEASE, FUCK OFF
>> (before someone forces you to)!
> 
> This language must be what you are using inside inner circle of your 
> family, with your mother especially.

This will be added to your record as already sent to your provider,
aioe.org.  May you be blocked from posting soon.

> I believe what Dr. Sushika wrote […]

There is no "Dr. Sushika"; you are merely defending your sock puppet again.

*PLONK*

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#468369

Il giorno domenica *_Thomas 'PigEars' Lahn_* ha scritto:

> The ’nym-shifting troll trolled as "Icano Bologna" <ob@woccgn.cc>:
>> Il giorno martedì Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn ha scritto:
>>> [The ’nym-shifting troll trolled as] "Sushika Imaki" <kukih@wkkss.ki>:
>                                                                ^^^^^^^^
>>>> the unemployable HARTZ-4 recipient Thomas 'ShitEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>
>>> Contrary to you dimwit, I have a really nice job near the university
>>> where I am studying physics and astronomy, and I do not live in
>>> Germany anymore, so I could not be a recipient of „Hartz Ⅳ“ (which is
>>> NOT an abbreviation) anyway, thank you very much.  Now, PLEASE, FUCK
>>> OFF (before someone forces you to)!
>> 
>> This language must be what you are using inside inner circle of your
>> family, with your mother especially.
> 
> This will be added to your record as already sent to your provider,
> aioe.org.  May you be blocked from posting soon.

But not your record, talking like that to your mother like that?? And to 
people you don't know, Professors, Doctors and Post Doctors. 

Have shame, delivering fruits and vegetables, near that university you say 
you work. Not to blame because of that, but your obvious incompetencies in 
science and physics. Let people know that.

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#468370

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 4:46:07 AM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> The ’nym-shifting troll demonstrated their ignorance as "Lovu Biftek"
> <ufeli@fupuks.cl>:
> 
> > numbernumber1964 wrote:
> >> The Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGO (2016)
> >> detected stellar gravitational waves (gravitons) that are formed by the
> >> merging of two black holes that gravitational waves are detected using a
> >> laser interferometer.
> > 
> > Yet you can't even see one black hole, much less two merging. The story is 
> > fake news.
> 
> One does NOT use visible light to observe the merger of black holes
> DIRECTLY.  One uses a laser to detect the CHANGE IN LENGTH of an
> INTERFEROMETER ARM, which can only be caused by a GRAVITATIONAL WAVE passing
> through the interferometer, which can only be caused by a merger of black
> holes and similar events.
> 
> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two NEUTRON
> STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum, including visible light,
> and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED that the gravitational waves caused
> by such an event come FROM THE SAME AREA OF SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general relativity
> provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
> 
> As you could have learned if you had actually followed the news.  (You would
> not even had to read a/the scientific paper[s], which you are manifestly
> unable to anyway, thanks you your complete lack of understanding of English.)
> 
> <https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/> pp.
> 
> *PLONK*
> 
> -- 
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.


Why isn't there just a shock wave at c 
besides the tachyonic component as 
what the event in spacetime creates 
to all physical observers?

Gravitational waves:  not just echoes.

Let's not forget that in GTR, spacetime 
is continuously and constantly bent 
(that the geodesy is always current).



(Here "relativistic events" includes 
"relativistic organizations of motion" 
besides "relativistic collisions".)

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