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Re: LIGO 2016

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: LIGO 2016
Date 2018-08-19 19:46 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Message-ID <1569151.7B5mikViVa@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
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mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:

> On Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:54:53 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn 
> wrote:
>> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:04:19 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>> > wrote:
>> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:46:07 UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars'
>> >> > Lahn wrote:
>> >> >> However, one can observe and HAS OBSERVED in 2017 the result of two
>> >> >> NEUTRON STARS MERGING, across the electromagnetic spectrum,
>> >> >> including visible light, and one can determine and HAS DETERMINED
>> >> >> that the gravitational waves caused by such an event come FROM THE
>> >> >> SAME AREA OF SPACE, IN THE WAY PREDICTED BY
>> >> >> THE THEORY (GENERAL RELATIVITY).  This confirms once again that
>> >> >> gravitational waves are a REAL phenomenon and that general
>> >> >> relativity provides is a CORRECT description of Nature.
>> >> > Unfortunately, it confirms only to fanatic believers.
>> >> For the intellectually challenged:
>> >> 
>> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZojAwfEbs>
>> > 
>> > [unrelated nonsense]
>> 
>> The Date header field of your posting shows that you have replied to my
>> posting only 5 minutes later.
>> 
>> The video I referred to in it is 8 minutes 20 seconds long.
>> 
>> This tells me:
> 
> You're  hearing strange voices.

Not at all.  My conclusions, some of which are conjectures (granted), follow 
logically from your irrational actions.

> The truth, however, is simple. I had already
> learned your "evidence",

No, you have not.  You have not even understood how it was obtained, which 
is why you are blathering nonsense about it.

> and it's no way better than the medieval evidence for angels
> pushing planets on crystal rings (which was:
> the planets move).

But it is.  By contrast to the angels, it is not just a fantasy: it has been 
MEASURED VERY PRECISELY and it agrees with the computer simulations that are 
based on CALCULATIONS.

Your problem is that YOU just HAVE NO CLUE at all.  Your other problem is 
that you are actually proud about that.

  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNgIl-qIklU>

    “In my experience, there’s a lot of people out there who understand
     that they can’t understand it, and are very glad that somebody can.
     There’s also people who are very resentful.  They’re resentful…
     They think there’s a conspiracy, a conspiracy that ‘the priesthood
     of science’ is hiding something.”

       —Dr. Leonard Susskind, theoretical physicist

Recognize yourself in the latter?

   “Can you tell them no?”

Susskind:

   “No, no, no.  We’re not hiding anything.  WE WANT MORE THAN ANYTHING
    ELSE THAT PEOPLE should listen to us, and UNDERSTAND WHAT WE’RE SAYING.
    But we’re stuck with this obstacle of mathematics.”

Now listen very carefully what the guys making this video are telling you IN 
PLAIN ENGLISH.  I write it in capital letters again so that it hopefully 
gets through your thick skull:

  “So if you want to understand the universe beyond the basic stuff that we
   can see and touch, YOU GOTTA LEARN THE MATH.

   But IT’S ALSO OK if you don’t know the math, because THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
   THERE WHO DEVOTED THEIR LIVES AND YEARS OF RESEARCH TO UNDERSTANDING THIS
   STUFF, AND THEY [SCIENTISTS] ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB.  Science is a
   CONSTANTLY EVOLVING field.  But THERE IS PLENTY THAT THEY [SCIENTISTS]
   DO KNOW.  And THEY’RE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AT MAKING PREDICTIONS.
   […]”

Susskind:

  “[…] And I think one can be pretty sure that anybody who thinks they have
   the final answer now is smoking something bad.  Or maybe they should be
   smoking something better :)”

I think this sums it up nicely.


PointedEars
-- 
Two neutrinos go through a bar ...

(from: WolframAlpha)

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LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-17 10:21 -0700
  Re: LIGO 2016 Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-17 19:22 +0000
    Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-18 13:46 +0200
      Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 05:19 -0700
        Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-18 16:04 +0200
          Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 07:09 -0700
            Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 02:54 +0200
              Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-18 22:20 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:01 +0000
                Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 07:53 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 19:46 +0200
                Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 11:48 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cs> - 2018-08-19 18:59 +0000
      Re: LIGO 2016 Sushika Imaki <kukih@wkkss.ki> - 2018-08-18 18:01 +0000
        Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-18 12:42 -0700
        Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 04:34 +0200
          Re: LIGO 2016 Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cc> - 2018-08-19 11:11 +0000
            Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 19:06 +0200
              Re: LIGO 2016 Icano Bologna <ob@woccgn.cs> - 2018-08-19 18:54 +0000
      Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 11:55 -0700
        Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-19 23:20 +0200
          Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:31 -0700
            Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 00:08 +0200
              Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:39 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 17:56 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 03:27 +0200
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 20:48 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 10:38 +0200
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 08:53 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:11 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 18:30 +0200
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:41 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 10:06 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 10:54 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 11:06 -0700
                Re: LIGO 2016 "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 09:32 -0700
              Re: LIGO 2016 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-19 21:26 -0700
              Re: LIGO 2016 Jed Sosebee <eue@eosgps.pn> - 2018-08-20 12:06 +0000
                Re: LIGO 2016 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-20 16:08 +0200
  Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-18 12:39 -0700
  Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-18 12:50 -0700
  Re: LIGO 2016 consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 09:42 -0700
  Re: LIGO 2016 consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 09:51 -0700
  Re: LIGO 2016 consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 14:17 -0700
  Re: LIGO 2016 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 17:22 -0700
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