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Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-04-18 11:05 -0700
Last post2016-05-01 05:14 -0700
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  Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 11:05 -0700
    Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 12:48 -0700
      Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 12:56 -0700
        Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 18:06 -0700
          Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:06 -0700
            Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:14 -0700
              Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:36 -0700
                Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:40 -0700
                  Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:41 -0700
                    Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:47 -0700
    Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 05:14 -0700

#381903 — Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 11:05 -0700
SubjectBroken Science- a lot of published research is false.
Message-ID<571521FC.6D7A@ix.netcom.com>
http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken

http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress



Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.


false
fôls/
adjective
adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest

    1.
    not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
    "the test can produce false results"
    synonyms:	incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
    counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
    "a false report"
    antonyms:	correct, truthful
        not according with rules or law.
        "false imprisonment"
    2.
    appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.





incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and
meant to deceive.


and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage!


Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!!


You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it.


everyday is fuckin garbage frOm yous guys....EVERYDAY!


you can fukin drown in your space suits!

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#381907

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 12:48 -0700
Message-ID<57153A01.29D1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381903
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> 
> http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress
> 
> Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.
> 
> false
> fôls/
> adjective
> adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
> 
>     1.
>     not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
>     "the test can produce false results"
>     synonyms:   incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
>     counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
>     "a false report"
>     antonyms:   correct, truthful
>         not according with rules or law.
>         "false imprisonment"
>     2.
>     appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
> 
> incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and
> meant to deceive.
> 
> and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage!
> 
> Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!!
> 
> You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it.
> 
> everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY!
> 
> you can fukin drown in your space suits!

and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship
blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?)


"the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure
that, eventually, the truth will prevail. 
Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that
those self-correcting mechanisms are broken."

http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken


it's broken.


don't bother to fix it, it's too old...

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#381910

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 12:56 -0700
Message-ID<57153BE4.674A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381907
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> >
> > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress
> >
> > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.
> >
> > false
> > fôls/
> > adjective
> > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
> >
> >     1.
> >     not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
> >     "the test can produce false results"
> >     synonyms:   incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
> >     counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
> >     "a false report"
> >     antonyms:   correct, truthful
> >         not according with rules or law.
> >         "false imprisonment"
> >     2.
> >     appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
> >
> > incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and
> > meant to deceive.
> >
> > and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage!
> >
> > Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!!
> >
> > You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it.
> >
> > everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY!
> >
> > you can fukin drown in your space suits!
> 
> and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship
> blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?)
> 
> "the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure
> that, eventually, the truth will prevail.
> Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that
> those self-correcting mechanisms are broken."
> 
> http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> 
> it's broken.
> 
> don't bother to fix it, it's too old...



"For starters, there's a "replication crisis" in science." 
http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken


Translation: "I no need to stinky fuckin replicate it!!!"

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#381926

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 18:06 -0700
Message-ID<57158493.74A3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381910
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> > >
> > > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress
> > >
> > > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.
> > >
> > > false
> > > fôls/
> > > adjective
> > > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
> > >
> > >     1.
> > >     not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
> > >     "the test can produce false results"
> > >     synonyms:   incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
> > >     counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
> > >     "a false report"
> > >     antonyms:   correct, truthful
> > >         not according with rules or law.
> > >         "false imprisonment"
> > >     2.
> > >     appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
> > >
> > > incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and
> > > meant to deceive.
> > >
> > > and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage!
> > >
> > > Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!!
> > >
> > > You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it.
> > >
> > > everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY!
> > >
> > > you can fukin drown in your space suits!
> >
> > and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship
> > blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?)
> >
> > "the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure
> > that, eventually, the truth will prevail.
> > Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that
> > those self-correcting mechanisms are broken."
> >
> > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> >
> > it's broken.
> >
> > don't bother to fix it, it's too old...
> 
> "For starters, there's a "replication crisis" in science."
> http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> 
> Translation: "I no need to stinky fuckin replicate it!!!"




"...gravitational waves at the BICEP2 experiment in Antarctica,  — have now been retracted, with far less fanfare than when they were first published."
http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken



Translation: gravitational waves have not been detected.


why do you guys fall for this false stuff....wishful thinkers? Your thing called Science, is over. There is nothing else to discover except false discoveries.

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#381929

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 22:06 -0700
Message-ID<5715BCCA.759C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381926
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> > > >
> > > > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress
> > > >
> > > > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.
> > > >
> > > > false
> > > > fôls/
> > > > adjective
> > > > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
> > > >
> > > >     1.
> > > >     not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
> > > >     "the test can produce false results"
> > > >     synonyms:   incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
> > > >     counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
> > > >     "a false report"
> > > >     antonyms:   correct, truthful
> > > >         not according with rules or law.
> > > >         "false imprisonment"
> > > >     2.
> > > >     appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
> > > >
> > > > incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and
> > > > meant to deceive.
> > > >
> > > > and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage!
> > > >
> > > > Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!!
> > > >
> > > > You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it.
> > > >
> > > > everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY!
> > > >
> > > > you can fukin drown in your space suits!
> > >
> > > and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship
> > > blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?)
> > >
> > > "the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure
> > > that, eventually, the truth will prevail.
> > > Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that
> > > those self-correcting mechanisms are broken."
> > >
> > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> > >
> > > it's broken.
> > >
> > > don't bother to fix it, it's too old...
> >
> > "For starters, there's a "replication crisis" in science."
> > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> >
> > Translation: "I no need to stinky fuckin replicate it!!!"
> 
> "...gravitational waves at the BICEP2 experiment in Antarctica,  — have now been retracted, with far less fanfare than when they were first published."
> http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> 
> Translation: gravitational waves have not been detected.
> 
> why do you guys fall for this false stuff....wishful thinkers? Your thing called Science, is over. There is nothing else to discover except false discoveries.


"Steven Levitt, of Freakonomics fame, largely built his career on a
paper arguing that abortion led to lower crime rates 20 years later
because the aborted babies were disproportionately future criminals. Two
economists went through the painstaking work of recoding Levitt's
statistical analysis — and found a basic arithmetic error."


"the aborted babies were disproportionately future criminals."????
http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken

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#381930

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 22:14 -0700
Message-ID<5715BE9A.136F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381929
"much scientific research published today is false"
http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken



that include EVERYTHING published at  WikipediA 



EVERYTHING
published at  WikipediA 
today is false.



EVERYTHING!

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#381931

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 22:36 -0700
Message-ID<5715C3FA.60AD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381930
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> "much scientific research published today is false"
> http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> 
> that include EVERYTHING published at  WikipediA
> 
> EVERYTHING
> published at  WikipediA
> today is false.
> 
> EVERYTHING!

Most medical information on Wikipedia is false, say researchers

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/045522_Wikipedia_medical_information_propaganda.html




Relying on Wikipedia for honest and legitimate information about science is a recipe for intellectual failure. --The Starmaker

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#381932

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 22:40 -0700
Message-ID<5715C4B9.BFB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381931
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > "much scientific research published today is false"
> > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> >
> > that include EVERYTHING published at  WikipediA
> >
> > EVERYTHING
> > published at  WikipediA
> > today is false.
> >
> > EVERYTHING!
> 
> Most medical information on Wikipedia is false, say researchers
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.naturalnews.com/045522_Wikipedia_medical_information_propaganda.html
> 
> Relying on Wikipedia for honest and legitimate information about science is a recipe for intellectual failure. --The Starmaker



"Wikipedia allows anonymous editing: contributors are not required to provide any identification, or even an email address."

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#381933

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 22:41 -0700
Message-ID<5715C513.7B6A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381932
http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/education/2010/march/The-Top-10-Reasons-Students-Cannot-Cite-or-Rely-on-Wikipedia.html

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#381934

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-18 22:47 -0700
Message-ID<5715C65F.19C4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#381933
We do not expect you to trust us

It is in the nature of an ever-changing work like Wikipedia that, while
some articles are of the highest quality of scholarship, others are
admittedly complete rubbish. We are fully aware of what it is and what
it isn't. Also, because some articles may contain errors, please do not
use Wikipedia to make critical decisions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer

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#382578

FromEric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-01 05:14 -0700
Message-ID<3fbf326a-b2e2-48c2-baf0-880cdb858512@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#381903
On Monday, 18 April 2016 19:05:23 UTC+1, The Starmaker  wrote:
> http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
> 
> http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress
> 
> Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.
> 

Kids are taught in schools to be uncritical of bad scientific procedure, as long as it leads to the desired experimental results (the ones that lead to praise from the teacher and higher coursework marks). 
One tends NOT to get praise and higher marks for pointing out that the experiment itself is deeply flawed, and not to be taken at face value.

Here's someone's analysis of the classic schoolroom "burning a candle in a bell jar" test to measure the proportion of oxygen in the air:

http://misconceptions.science-book.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Chap2-1.pdf 

Basically, because the candle stops burning when the oxygen level drops to a critical point that is not zero, the only way to get the magical 20% figure and obtain a high score for experimental coursework is to embrace bad experimental technique, and get the right answer for the wrong reasons.

Eric Baird

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