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| First post | 2016-04-18 11:05 -0700 |
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Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 11:05 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 12:48 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 12:56 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 18:06 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:06 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:14 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:36 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:40 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:41 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-18 22:47 -0700
Re: Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 05:14 -0700
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 11:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. |
| Message-ID | <571521FC.6D7A@ix.netcom.com> |
http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress
Broken Science- a lot of published research is false.
false
fôls/
adjective
adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
1.
not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
"the test can produce false results"
synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
"a false report"
antonyms: correct, truthful
not according with rules or law.
"false imprisonment"
2.
appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and
meant to deceive.
and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage!
Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!!
You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it.
everyday is fuckin garbage frOm yous guys....EVERYDAY!
you can fukin drown in your space suits!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 12:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57153A01.29D1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381903 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress > > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. > > false > fôls/ > adjective > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest > > 1. > not according with truth or fact; incorrect. > "the test can produce false results" > synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious; > counterfeit, forged, fraudulent > "a false report" > antonyms: correct, truthful > not according with rules or law. > "false imprisonment" > 2. > appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive. > > incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and > meant to deceive. > > and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage! > > Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!! > > You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it. > > everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY! > > you can fukin drown in your space suits! and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?) "the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure that, eventually, the truth will prevail. Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that those self-correcting mechanisms are broken." http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken it's broken. don't bother to fix it, it's too old...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 12:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57153BE4.674A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381907 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > > > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress > > > > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. > > > > false > > fôls/ > > adjective > > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest > > > > 1. > > not according with truth or fact; incorrect. > > "the test can produce false results" > > synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious; > > counterfeit, forged, fraudulent > > "a false report" > > antonyms: correct, truthful > > not according with rules or law. > > "false imprisonment" > > 2. > > appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive. > > > > incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and > > meant to deceive. > > > > and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage! > > > > Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!! > > > > You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it. > > > > everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY! > > > > you can fukin drown in your space suits! > > and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship > blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?) > > "the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure > that, eventually, the truth will prevail. > Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that > those self-correcting mechanisms are broken." > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > it's broken. > > don't bother to fix it, it's too old... "For starters, there's a "replication crisis" in science." http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken Translation: "I no need to stinky fuckin replicate it!!!"
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 18:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57158493.74A3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381910 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > > > > > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress > > > > > > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. > > > > > > false > > > fôls/ > > > adjective > > > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest > > > > > > 1. > > > not according with truth or fact; incorrect. > > > "the test can produce false results" > > > synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious; > > > counterfeit, forged, fraudulent > > > "a false report" > > > antonyms: correct, truthful > > > not according with rules or law. > > > "false imprisonment" > > > 2. > > > appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive. > > > > > > incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and > > > meant to deceive. > > > > > > and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage! > > > > > > Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!! > > > > > > You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it. > > > > > > everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY! > > > > > > you can fukin drown in your space suits! > > > > and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship > > blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?) > > > > "the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure > > that, eventually, the truth will prevail. > > Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that > > those self-correcting mechanisms are broken." > > > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > > > it's broken. > > > > don't bother to fix it, it's too old... > > "For starters, there's a "replication crisis" in science." > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > Translation: "I no need to stinky fuckin replicate it!!!" "...gravitational waves at the BICEP2 experiment in Antarctica, — have now been retracted, with far less fanfare than when they were first published." http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken Translation: gravitational waves have not been detected. why do you guys fall for this false stuff....wishful thinkers? Your thing called Science, is over. There is nothing else to discover except false discoveries.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 22:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5715BCCA.759C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381926 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > > > > > > > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress > > > > > > > > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. > > > > > > > > false > > > > fôls/ > > > > adjective > > > > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > not according with truth or fact; incorrect. > > > > "the test can produce false results" > > > > synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious; > > > > counterfeit, forged, fraudulent > > > > "a false report" > > > > antonyms: correct, truthful > > > > not according with rules or law. > > > > "false imprisonment" > > > > 2. > > > > appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive. > > > > > > > > incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, and > > > > meant to deceive. > > > > > > > > and i have to get through all your fuckin garbage! > > > > > > > > Get on a rocket, and get the fuck out-of-my-planet!!!! > > > > > > > > You got fuckin 24 hours! I don't give a fuck if your rocket ship isn't ready! Let it fukin blow up wit yous in it. > > > > > > > > everyday is fuckin garbage from yous guys....EVERYDAY! > > > > > > > > you can fukin drown in your space suits! > > > > > > and take your stupid teachers with you! (tell them the odds of the ship > > > blowing up is a billion to one) (more false info, isn't it?) > > > > > > "the scientific method has "self-correcting mechanisms" that ensure > > > that, eventually, the truth will prevail. > > > Unfortunately for all of us, Wilson makes a convincing argument that > > > those self-correcting mechanisms are broken." > > > > > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > > > > > it's broken. > > > > > > don't bother to fix it, it's too old... > > > > "For starters, there's a "replication crisis" in science." > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > > > Translation: "I no need to stinky fuckin replicate it!!!" > > "...gravitational waves at the BICEP2 experiment in Antarctica, — have now been retracted, with far less fanfare than when they were first published." > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > Translation: gravitational waves have not been detected. > > why do you guys fall for this false stuff....wishful thinkers? Your thing called Science, is over. There is nothing else to discover except false discoveries. "Steven Levitt, of Freakonomics fame, largely built his career on a paper arguing that abortion led to lower crime rates 20 years later because the aborted babies were disproportionately future criminals. Two economists went through the painstaking work of recoding Levitt's statistical analysis — and found a basic arithmetic error." "the aborted babies were disproportionately future criminals."???? http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 22:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5715BE9A.136F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381929 |
"much scientific research published today is false" http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken that include EVERYTHING published at WikipediA EVERYTHING published at WikipediA today is false. EVERYTHING!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 22:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5715C3FA.60AD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381930 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > "much scientific research published today is false" > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > that include EVERYTHING published at WikipediA > > EVERYTHING > published at WikipediA > today is false. > > EVERYTHING! Most medical information on Wikipedia is false, say researchers http://www.naturalnews.com/045522_Wikipedia_medical_information_propaganda.html Relying on Wikipedia for honest and legitimate information about science is a recipe for intellectual failure. --The Starmaker
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 22:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5715C4B9.BFB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381931 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > "much scientific research published today is false" > > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > > > that include EVERYTHING published at WikipediA > > > > EVERYTHING > > published at WikipediA > > today is false. > > > > EVERYTHING! > > Most medical information on Wikipedia is false, say researchers > > > > http://www.naturalnews.com/045522_Wikipedia_medical_information_propaganda.html > > Relying on Wikipedia for honest and legitimate information about science is a recipe for intellectual failure. --The Starmaker "Wikipedia allows anonymous editing: contributors are not required to provide any identification, or even an email address."
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 22:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5715C513.7B6A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381932 |
http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/education/2010/march/The-Top-10-Reasons-Students-Cannot-Cite-or-Rely-on-Wikipedia.html
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 22:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5715C65F.19C4@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #381933 |
We do not expect you to trust us It is in the nature of an ever-changing work like Wikipedia that, while some articles are of the highest quality of scholarship, others are admittedly complete rubbish. We are fully aware of what it is and what it isn't. Also, because some articles may contain errors, please do not use Wikipedia to make critical decisions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
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| From | Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-01 05:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3fbf326a-b2e2-48c2-baf0-880cdb858512@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #381903 |
On Monday, 18 April 2016 19:05:23 UTC+1, The Starmaker wrote: > http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken > > http://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress > > Broken Science- a lot of published research is false. > Kids are taught in schools to be uncritical of bad scientific procedure, as long as it leads to the desired experimental results (the ones that lead to praise from the teacher and higher coursework marks). One tends NOT to get praise and higher marks for pointing out that the experiment itself is deeply flawed, and not to be taken at face value. Here's someone's analysis of the classic schoolroom "burning a candle in a bell jar" test to measure the proportion of oxygen in the air: http://misconceptions.science-book.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Chap2-1.pdf Basically, because the candle stops burning when the oxygen level drops to a critical point that is not zero, the only way to get the magical 20% figure and obtain a high score for experimental coursework is to embrace bad experimental technique, and get the right answer for the wrong reasons. Eric Baird
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