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  unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 09:18 -0800
    Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 22:08 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 10:58 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 14:25 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 22:32 -0500
            Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 22:00 +1100
          Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:27 -0800
            Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:28 -0800
              Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:29 -0800
                Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 14:40 -0800
                  Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-12 09:55 -0800
                    Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-15 11:40 -0800
    Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 12:08 +1100
      Re: unloock a phone Emigdio Sophronius <emigg@augustvisitors.org> - 2016-02-28 14:09 +0000
      Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 06:10 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-29 11:24 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 16:50 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2016-02-29 19:52 +0000
    [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 23:30 +0800
      Re: [OT] FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2016-02-28 10:56 -0500
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 00:10 +0800
      Re: [OT] Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 17:53 -0500
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:17 +0800
      Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-28 19:59 -0800
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:19 +0800
          Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 14:44 -0800
            Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:53 +0800
              Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-01 14:16 -0800
                Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:46 +0800
                  Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 18:24 -0800
                  Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 22:22 -0800
    [OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:58 +0800
    Re: unloock a phone, NO< its about them unlocking everyone's phones tesla sTinker <staff@truecarpentry.net> - 2016-03-13 11:27 -0700

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#377222 — unloock a phone

you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?



How stupid can they be????


I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
stupid guys...but i didn't know
they didn't know how to unlock a phone.

Couldn't they simply do a google search?

Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...



you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?


i mean...How stupid can they be????



I mean I don't get it?


I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right????


I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"


Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!

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#377317

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> 
> How stupid can they be????
> 
> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
> stupid guys...but i didn't know
> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
> 
> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
> 
> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
> 
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> 
> i mean...How stupid can they be????
> 
> I mean I don't get it?
> 
> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right????
> 
> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
> 
> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!


I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop
computer.

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#377502

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> >
> > How stupid can they be????
> >
> > I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
> > stupid guys...but i didn't know
> > they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
> >
> > Couldn't they simply do a google search?
> >
> > Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
> >
> > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> >
> > i mean...How stupid can they be????
> >
> > I mean I don't get it?
> >
> > I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right????
> >
> > I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
> > ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
> >
> > Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
> 
> I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop
> computer.


The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of
iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the
phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots.

When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was
impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple
admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.”

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#377521

On 1/03/2016 5:58 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>
>>> How stupid can they be????
>>>
>>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
>>> stupid guys...but i didn't know
>>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>>>
>>> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>>>
>>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>>>
>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>
>>> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>>>
>>> I mean I don't get it?
>>>
>>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right????
>>>
>>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
>>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>>>
>>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>>
>> I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop
>> computer.
>
>
> The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of
> iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the
> phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots.
>
> When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was
> impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple
> admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.”
>

Well, it is unreasonable. Apple's only link to the matter is that some 
time in the past it manufactured a phone, which was sold to a person. 
That person then committed an unlawful act, and possibly put some 
information about the unlawful act, or other unlawful acts, onto the phone.

Why should Apple now be forced to use its own resources to aid the FBI? 
Should anyone capable of assisting the FBI in any respect be forced to 
do so?

Sylvia.

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#377522

On 02/29/2016 10:25 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 1/03/2016 5:58 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>>
>>>> How stupid can they be????
>>>>
>>>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
>>>> stupid guys...but i didn't know
>>>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>>>>
>>>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>>>>
>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>>
>>>> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>>>>
>>>> I mean I don't get it?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for
>>>> digging tunnels, right????
>>>>
>>>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
>>>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>>>>
>>>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>>>
>>> I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop
>>> computer.
>>
>>
>> The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of
>> iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the
>> phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots.
>>
>> When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was
>> impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple
>> admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.”
>>
>
> Well, it is unreasonable. Apple's only link to the matter is that some
> time in the past it manufactured a phone, which was sold to a person.
> That person then committed an unlawful act, and possibly put some
> information about the unlawful act, or other unlawful acts, onto the phone.
>
> Why should Apple now be forced to use its own resources to aid the FBI?
> Should anyone capable of assisting the FBI in any respect be forced to
> do so?
>
> Sylvia.

Of course they should. EVERYONE should. If you witnessed something about 
the criminals (any criminals for that matter) and you won't tell then 
for the security of everyone in the country you must be forced to tell 
what you know even if it takes torture. Even if it takes removing all 
your assets and preventing you from ever earning a living. Nothing 
trumps security. There are no rights or freedoms so important that they 
can't be overridden in the name of national security. That is a given.


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#377543

On 1/03/2016 2:32 PM, benj wrote:
> On 02/29/2016 10:25 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 1/03/2016 5:58 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>>>
>>>>> How stupid can they be????
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
>>>>> stupid guys...but i didn't know
>>>>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>>>>>
>>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>>>>
>>>>> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean I don't get it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for
>>>>> digging tunnels, right????
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
>>>>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>>>>>
>>>>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>>>>
>>>> I suspect what the problem is...the FBI don't know how to use a desktop
>>>> computer.
>>>
>>>
>>> The FBI needs Apple to disarm the feature that erases the content of
>>> iPhones on the 10th wrong password so that agents can gain access to the
>>> phone to learn if there are other sleeper cells or plots.
>>>
>>> When Apple refused the court order, Apple defenders claimed it was
>>> impossible to unlock the phone. In court papers filed last week, Apple
>>> admits that’s not true, but still claims an “unreasonable burden.”
>>>
>>
>> Well, it is unreasonable. Apple's only link to the matter is that some
>> time in the past it manufactured a phone, which was sold to a person.
>> That person then committed an unlawful act, and possibly put some
>> information about the unlawful act, or other unlawful acts, onto the
>> phone.
>>
>> Why should Apple now be forced to use its own resources to aid the FBI?
>> Should anyone capable of assisting the FBI in any respect be forced to
>> do so?
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Of course they should. EVERYONE should. If you witnessed something about
> the criminals (any criminals for that matter) and you won't tell then
> for the security of everyone in the country you must be forced to tell
> what you know even if it takes torture. Even if it takes removing all
> your assets and preventing you from ever earning a living. Nothing
> trumps security. There are no rights or freedoms so important that they
> can't be overridden in the name of national security. That is a given.
>
>
Anyway, Apple don't know anything about the criminals that the FBI 
doesn't already know.

Sylvia.

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#377900 — Re: unlock a phone

Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc.
over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to
extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say.
But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming.

Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6
microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the
portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key,
officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and
quickly unlock it.

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#377901 — Re: unlock a phone

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc.
> over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to
> extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say.
> But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming.
> 
> Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6
> microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the
> portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key,
> officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and
> quickly unlock it.


If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they
would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the
limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone.

The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by
using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can
cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored
in the chip.

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#377902 — Re: unlock a phone

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc.
> > over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to
> > extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say.
> > But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming.
> >
> > Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6
> > microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the
> > portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key,
> > officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and
> > quickly unlock it.
> 
> If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they
> would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the
> limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone.
> 
> The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by
> using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can
> cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored
> in the chip.



http://www.wsj.com/articles/chip-hacking-might-help-fbi-unlock-iphones-1457050959



work the problem.

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#377909 — Re: unlock a phone

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc.
> > > over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to
> > > extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say.
> > > But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming.
> > >
> > > Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6
> > > microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the
> > > portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key,
> > > officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and
> > > quickly unlock it.
> >
> > If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they
> > would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the
> > limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone.
> >
> > The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by
> > using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can
> > cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored
> > in the chip.
> 
> http://www.wsj.com/articles/chip-hacking-might-help-fbi-unlock-iphones-1457050959
> 
> work the problem.


of course, this is just an old old hack, like making a copy of the file and crack it on your own time.

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#378740 — Re: unlock a phone

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc.
> > > > over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to
> > > > extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say.
> > > > But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming.
> > > >
> > > > Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6
> > > > microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the
> > > > portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key,
> > > > officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and
> > > > quickly unlock it.
> > >
> > > If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they
> > > would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the
> > > limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone.
> > >
> > > The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by
> > > using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can
> > > cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored
> > > in the chip.
> >
> > http://www.wsj.com/articles/chip-hacking-might-help-fbi-unlock-iphones-1457050959
> >
> > work the problem.
> 
> of course, this is just an old old hack, like making a copy of the file and crack it on your own time.


if you can get a monkey to type the whole collection of Shakespeare...a
monkey can unlock an iPhone in his garage.


All the FBI has to do is buy a garage..

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#379098 — Re: unlock a phone

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if the Justice Department loses its legal showdown with Apple Inc.
> > > > > over access to a killer’s iPhone, the government might still be able to
> > > > > extract the data locked away inside it, computer-security experts say.
> > > > > But it would be risky, expensive and time-consuming.
> > > > >
> > > > > Those experts say officials could try to physically crack open the A6
> > > > > microprocessor inside the phone of Syed Rizwan Farook, targeting the
> > > > > portion of the chip that holds the user ID, or UID, key. With the key,
> > > > > officials could move the iPhone’s scrambled data to another computer and
> > > > > quickly unlock it.
> > > >
> > > > If agents were able to obtain it by probing the chip, however, they
> > > > would then only need to guess Mr. Farook’s passcode, free of the
> > > > limitations that have so far prevented them from accessing the phone.
> > > >
> > > > The most likely method to extract the key, the experts said, would be by
> > > > using a focused ion beam—essentially a very precise atomic saw that can
> > > > cut through the chip’s outer structures to expose the 1s and 0s stored
> > > > in the chip.
> > >
> > > http://www.wsj.com/articles/chip-hacking-might-help-fbi-unlock-iphones-1457050959
> > >
> > > work the problem.
> >
> > of course, this is just an old old hack, like making a copy of the file and crack it on your own time.
> 
> if you can get a monkey to type the whole collection of Shakespeare...a
> monkey can unlock an iPhone in his garage.
> 
> All the FBI has to do is buy a garage..



http://fortune.com/2016/03/15/google-doubled-reward-hack-chromebook/


I guess the FBI won't be trying it...

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#377378

On 27/02/2016 4:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>
>
>
> How stupid can they be????
>
>
> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
> stupid guys...but i didn't know
> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>
> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>
> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>
>
>
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>
>
> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>
>
>
> I mean I don't get it?
>
>
> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right????
>
>
> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>
>
> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>

You presumably think any competent hacker could get in.

The problem is that hacking involves the exploitation of mistakes in 
software, and that exploitation requires that the software be willing to 
interact with the hacker to some extent.

The phone is in a state where the only things it's willing to do is to 
accept and check a PIN, and presumably also to accept software updates 
signed by Apple. If that's all it will do, and trying multiple PINS will 
result in its being wiped, then either Apple has to sign a special 
version of the software, or the FBI are stuck.

There are possible hardware attacks, but their feasibility depends on 
exactly how the hardware is structured. In addition, a hardware attack 
risks destroying the electronics, and with it the very information the 
FBI wants to recover.

Sylvia.

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#377401

Sylvia Else wrote:

> The problem is that hacking involves the exploitation of mistakes in
> software, and that exploitation requires that the software be willing to
> interact with the hacker to some extent.

Absolutely correct. The sham is aimed to fool the public, on how nice good 
soul people and personnel the oligarch capitalists at Apple are. They 
don't open those crappy phones to anybody, now that they also have your 
fingerprints, your face, and even your iris. LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_recognition

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#377402

Sylvia should stay in the kitchen, baking cookies and staying 
pregnant--leaving the computer hacking to real men.
LOL

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#377453

On 29/02/2016 1:10 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
> Sylvia should stay in the kitchen, baking cookies and staying
> pregnant--leaving the computer hacking to real men.
> LOL
>
>
>

<sigh> Another demonstration of how poor trolling has become. I can 
remember the days when a troll could create any number of emotionally 
laiden responses. These days it's just "<sigh> Another...."

Sylvia.

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#377454

On 2/28/2016 4:24 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 29/02/2016 1:10 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
>> Sylvia should stay in the kitchen, baking cookies and staying
>> pregnant--leaving the computer hacking to real men.
>> LOL
>>
>>
>>
>
> <sigh> Another demonstration of how poor trolling has become. I can
> remember the days when a troll could create any number of emotionally
> laiden responses. These days it's just "<sigh> Another...."
>
> Sylvia.


Which is why everyone responded to it.
LOL

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#377505

Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
news:djevknFhclsU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:08:37 GMT
in alt.2600, wrote: 

> On 27/02/2016 4:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>
>>
>>
>> How stupid can they be????
>>
>>
>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
>> stupid guys...but i didn't know
>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>>
>> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>>
>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>>
>>
>>
>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>
>>
>> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>>
>>
>>
>> I mean I don't get it?
>>
>>
>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search
>> for digging tunnels, right???? 
>>
>>
>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>>
>>
>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>>
> 
> You presumably think any competent hacker could get in.
> 
> The problem is that hacking involves the exploitation of mistakes
> in software, and that exploitation requires that the software be
> willing to interact with the hacker to some extent.
> 
> The phone is in a state where the only things it's willing to do
> is to accept and check a PIN, and presumably also to accept
> software updates signed by Apple. If that's all it will do, and
> trying multiple PINS will result in its being wiped, then either
> Apple has to sign a special version of the software, or the FBI
> are stuck. 
> 
> There are possible hardware attacks, but their feasibility depends
> on exactly how the hardware is structured. In addition, a hardware
> attack risks destroying the electronics, and with it the very
> information the FBI wants to recover.
> 
> Sylvia.

Very well stated. 
 



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#377403 — [OT]

On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> ...

Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not 
computer science and crime fighting.

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#377408 — Re: [OT]

Mr. Man-wai Chang was thinking very hard :
> On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>> ...
>
> Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not computer 
> science and crime fighting.

So, is it relatively easy to unlock an iPhone?

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