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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Started byChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
First post2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Last post2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:42 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 16:06 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:41 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-26 10:45 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:45 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-27 07:19 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:04 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:40 +0800
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:32 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:45 +0800
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:45 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:31 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:48 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:33 +0800
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:41 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:58 +0800
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:25 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:27 +0800
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:15 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:18 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:00 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:06 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:44 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:40 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:18 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:18 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:35 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:12 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 01:11 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:36 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:35 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 15:14 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:49 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:17 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 12:45 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 22:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 00:08 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:46 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:43 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:00 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:49 +0800
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 08:02 +0800
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:43 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:44 +0800
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:46 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:36 +0800
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:33 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-27 16:47 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 00:51 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-28 07:44 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:19 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:03 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 09:22 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:04 +0800
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:16 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:29 +0800
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800

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#362791

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
Message-ID<55E74B6A.7339@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#362442
Most atheist
   believe
 the universe is 
mathematical.

I mean, they actually
believe the universe is
Mathematical.

But, if i go
to the moon
and look around..
i don't see any mathematics.

i don't see any...numbers.

If i go to Mars

i don't see any mathematics.

i don't see any...numbers.

Where is this
mathematics
they are seeing?

Is it hidden??


Because, it only exist in their mind.

Mathematics is based on belief, not science.


Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..

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#362885

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
Message-ID<ms8gcd$ld3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#362791
Date-Marshmallow Waldorf Salad

Prep
20 m
Ready In
1 h 20 m

Ingredients
2 cups peeled, diced tart apples
1 tablespoon white sugar
1 teaspoon lemon juice
1 pinch salt
1/2 cup chopped celery

1/2 cup chopped pitted dates
1/2 cup chopped walnuts
1/4 cup mayonnaise
1/2 cup heavy cream
1/4 cup miniature marshmallows

Directions
Place the apples in a medium serving bowl and sprinkle with sugar, lemon 
juice and salt. Stir in the celery, dates and walnuts. In a separate 
bowl, whip the cream with an electric mixer until it can hold a peak. 
Mix in mayonnaise and gently fold into the apple mixture along with the 
marshmallows. Refrigerate for at least 1 hour before serving.

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#362886

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
Message-ID<55E7C949.4DA9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#362791
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Most atheist
>    believe
>  the universe is
> mathematical.
> 
> I mean, they actually
> believe the universe is
> Mathematical.
> 
> But, if i go
> to the moon
> and look around..
> i don't see any mathematics.
> 
> i don't see any...numbers.
> 
> If i go to Mars
> 
> i don't see any mathematics.
> 
> i don't see any...numbers.
> 
> Where is this
> mathematics
> they are seeing?
> 
> Is it hidden??
> 
> Because, it only exist in their mind.
> 
> Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> 
> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..



Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
36-26-36.

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#363039

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
Message-ID<55E94C53.43FF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#362886
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Most atheist
> >    believe
> >  the universe is
> > mathematical.
> >
> > I mean, they actually
> > believe the universe is
> > Mathematical.
> >
> > But, if i go
> > to the moon
> > and look around..
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> >
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> >
> > If i go to Mars
> >
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> >
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> >
> > Where is this
> > mathematics
> > they are seeing?
> >
> > Is it hidden??
> >
> > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> >
> > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> >
> > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> 
> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> 36-26-36.

no, it's just a rock..


There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where??

Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky.

What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe...

What place is this ...mathematics in? 

It has to be...somewhere?

Pluto??


I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion...


It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no
proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind.

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#363092

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
Message-ID<55E9FEA5.5836@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#363039
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Most atheist
> > >    believe
> > >  the universe is
> > > mathematical.
> > >
> > > I mean, they actually
> > > believe the universe is
> > > Mathematical.
> > >
> > > But, if i go
> > > to the moon
> > > and look around..
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > If i go to Mars
> > >
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > Where is this
> > > mathematics
> > > they are seeing?
> > >
> > > Is it hidden??
> > >
> > > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> > >
> > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> > >
> > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> >
> > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> > 36-26-36.
> 
> no, it's just a rock..
> 
> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where??
> 
> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky.
> 
> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe...
> 
> What place is this ...mathematics in?
> 
> It has to be...somewhere?
> 
> Pluto??
> 
> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion...
> 
> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no
> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind.


If I believe that the uninverse is mathematical...i would be imagining
things, wouldn't I?


I would be seeing that which is not there.

Maybe i would be...projecting it.

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#363450

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
Message-ID<55EE8B6D.6A9F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#363039
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Most atheist
> > >    believe
> > >  the universe is
> > > mathematical.
> > >
> > > I mean, they actually
> > > believe the universe is
> > > Mathematical.
> > >
> > > But, if i go
> > > to the moon
> > > and look around..
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > If i go to Mars
> > >
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > Where is this
> > > mathematics
> > > they are seeing?
> > >
> > > Is it hidden??
> > >
> > > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> > >
> > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> > >
> > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> >
> > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> > 36-26-36.
> 
> no, it's just a rock..
> 
> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where??
> 
> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky.
> 
> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe...
> 
> What place is this ...mathematics in?
> 
> It has to be...somewhere?
> 
> Pluto??
> 
> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion...
> 
> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no
> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind.



and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must
believe there is a ...Mathematician.

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#363530

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
Message-ID<msocfq$5ac$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#363450
Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit :
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Most atheist
>>>>     believe
>>>>   the universe is
>>>> mathematical.
>>>>
>>>> I mean, they actually
>>>> believe the universe is
>>>> Mathematical.
>>>>
>>>> But, if i go
>>>> to the moon
>>>> and look around..
>>>> i don't see any mathematics.
>>>>
>>>> i don't see any...numbers.
>>>>
>>>> If i go to Mars
>>>>
>>>> i don't see any mathematics.
>>>>
>>>> i don't see any...numbers.
>>>>
>>>> Where is this
>>>> mathematics
>>>> they are seeing?
>>>>
>>>> Is it hidden??
>>>>
>>>> Because, it only exist in their mind.
>>>>
>>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
>>>>
>>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
>>>
>>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
>>> 36-26-36.
>>
>> no, it's just a rock..
>>
>> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where??
>>
>> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky.
>>
>> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe...
>>
>> What place is this ...mathematics in?
>>
>> It has to be...somewhere?
>>
>> Pluto??
>>
>> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion...
>>
>> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no
>> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind.
>
>
>
> and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must
> believe there is a ...Mathematician.

If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to 
have been created. It's simple logic.


-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#363534

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
Message-ID<55EFC7BF.5E72@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#363530
Olrik wrote:
> 
> Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit :
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Most atheist
> >>>>     believe
> >>>>   the universe is
> >>>> mathematical.
> >>>>
> >>>> I mean, they actually
> >>>> believe the universe is
> >>>> Mathematical.
> >>>>
> >>>> But, if i go
> >>>> to the moon
> >>>> and look around..
> >>>> i don't see any mathematics.
> >>>>
> >>>> i don't see any...numbers.
> >>>>
> >>>> If i go to Mars
> >>>>
> >>>> i don't see any mathematics.
> >>>>
> >>>> i don't see any...numbers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Where is this
> >>>> mathematics
> >>>> they are seeing?
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it hidden??
> >>>>
> >>>> Because, it only exist in their mind.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> >>>>
> >>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> >>>
> >>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> >>> 36-26-36.
> >>
> >> no, it's just a rock..
> >>
> >> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where??
> >>
> >> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky.
> >>
> >> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe...
> >>
> >> What place is this ...mathematics in?
> >>
> >> It has to be...somewhere?
> >>
> >> Pluto??
> >>
> >> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion...
> >>
> >> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no
> >> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind.
> >
> >
> >
> > and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must
> > believe there is a ...Mathematician.
> 
> If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to
> have been created. It's simple logic.


A creator is only one person. 


Before God created the universe...
He did not exist.

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#363625

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
Message-ID<msqvpp$fd6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#363534
Le 2015-09-09 01:46, The Starmaker a écrit :
> Olrik wrote:
>>
>> Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit :
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most atheist
>>>>>>      believe
>>>>>>    the universe is
>>>>>> mathematical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean, they actually
>>>>>> believe the universe is
>>>>>> Mathematical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, if i go
>>>>>> to the moon
>>>>>> and look around..
>>>>>> i don't see any mathematics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't see any...numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If i go to Mars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't see any mathematics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't see any...numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is this
>>>>>> mathematics
>>>>>> they are seeing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it hidden??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because, it only exist in their mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
>>>>> 36-26-36.
>>>>
>>>> no, it's just a rock..
>>>>
>>>> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where??
>>>>
>>>> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky.
>>>>
>>>> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe...
>>>>
>>>> What place is this ...mathematics in?
>>>>
>>>> It has to be...somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Pluto??
>>>>
>>>> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion...
>>>>
>>>> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no
>>>> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must
>>> believe there is a ...Mathematician.
>>
>> If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to
>> have been created. It's simple logic.
>
>
> A creator is only one person.
>
>
> Before God created the universe...
> He did not exist.

But bacon does.

-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#363093

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-04 13:35 -0700
Message-ID<55EA0096.7FB5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#362886
dobri karagorgov wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:14:40 AM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Most atheist
> > >    believe
> > >  the universe is
> > > mathematical.
> > >
> > > I mean, they actually
> > > believe the universe is
> > > Mathematical.
> > >
> > > But, if i go
> > > to the moon
> > > and look around..
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > If i go to Mars
> > >
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > Where is this
> > > mathematics
> > > they are seeing?
> > >
> > > Is it hidden??
> > >
> > > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> > >
> > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> > >
> > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> > 36-26-36.
> 
> every natural law or social agreement to be formulated must gather all the influential parameters that are mathematical magnitudes and put them in equation. the bible says "at >1st the earth was void and without form"... well the form is given by mathematics: you gather the parameters of the function and plot its graphic that graphic is the form. you >are blind for math in a way of accepting the computer machine without the world wide order of them 1's and 0's. the equation of circle is 1^0 = O^on


That is a pretty picture you painted...

"earth was void and without form", "them 1's and 0's", etc...it looks
like an interesting painting.

A little abstract...but pretty.

You should try using paints and brushes...

take a art painting course..


then turn your abstract thoughts from words to paintings and sell it at
an art show in New York galleries.


I would price it at $30,000.00

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#362343

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
Message-ID<cv66ua1ceotlutee119m10tasa6280s2s2@4ax.com>
In reply to#362230
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:

>On 15-08-29 05:09 AM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:45 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrr8pb$rul$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-28 09:25 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:58:12 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrom69$ae3$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all because you actually believe it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently you think all of reality is based upon belief.  I am
>>>>>> curious.  If there is something that no one knows about - an entirely
>>>>>> new thing such as a plant or animal or cave - does this thing exist or
>>>>>> not exist?  Remember, if no one knows about it then no one can have
>>>>>> any kind of a belief about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If something does not exist, then you or anyone else would not have
>>>>> mentioned it. The fact you are now mentioning it, its existence has
>>>>> become uncertain. So there is no way to answer your question until I can
>>>>> verify its existence.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense.  People talk about things that don't exist frequently.  The
>>>> Tooth Fairy, gods, all sorts of literary fiction.  The list is large.
>>>
>>> They are talking about things they know they don't exist. You are
>>> talking about a thing that exists but no one knows. You neglected
>>> yourself being the one who actually knows. The fact you know it exists
>>> has ensured its existence. For me, I have to check to find out whether
>>> you are lying or not. So its existence is uncertain.
>>
>> You are practiced in saying a lot without any content aren't you?
>
>Not really. Your question somehow is very similar to a Buddhist 
>philosophical question. It was like this: "If a tree fell down in the 
>forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test 
>the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it 
>shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer 
>no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct 
>answer, as I have given you, is not sure.

You have to excuse hvac.  He's a bad tomato.

>
>
>>>> So if I truly believe I can fly like a butterfly I can do so.
>>>
>>> No, I don't think so. The physical world is an illusion, but it does not
>>> mean we can ignore it altogether. We only need to be aware that it's not
>>> real, so we will not be fooled to lose our focus in life.
>>>
>>
>> Since you obviously are only interested in convoluted discussions
>> where you can keep twisting the thread is as many directions as
>> possible without actually going anywhere such a "discussion" becomes
>> tiresome after a point.  I have reached that point.
>>
>> Enjoy playing with yourself.
>
>Thanks for spending time with me. It's always a good exercise for me.
>

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#362348

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-30 11:26 -0400
Message-ID<mrv78u$nmv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#362343
On 15-08-30 11:07 AM, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 15-08-29 05:09 AM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:45 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrr8pb$rul$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-28 09:25 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:58:12 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrom69$ae3$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's all because you actually believe it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently you think all of reality is based upon belief.  I am
>>>>>>> curious.  If there is something that no one knows about - an entirely
>>>>>>> new thing such as a plant or animal or cave - does this thing exist or
>>>>>>> not exist?  Remember, if no one knows about it then no one can have
>>>>>>> any kind of a belief about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If something does not exist, then you or anyone else would not have
>>>>>> mentioned it. The fact you are now mentioning it, its existence has
>>>>>> become uncertain. So there is no way to answer your question until I can
>>>>>> verify its existence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense.  People talk about things that don't exist frequently.  The
>>>>> Tooth Fairy, gods, all sorts of literary fiction.  The list is large.
>>>>
>>>> They are talking about things they know they don't exist. You are
>>>> talking about a thing that exists but no one knows. You neglected
>>>> yourself being the one who actually knows. The fact you know it exists
>>>> has ensured its existence. For me, I have to check to find out whether
>>>> you are lying or not. So its existence is uncertain.
>>>
>>> You are practiced in saying a lot without any content aren't you?
>>
>> Not really. Your question somehow is very similar to a Buddhist
>> philosophical question. It was like this: "If a tree fell down in the
>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>
> You have to excuse hvac.  He's a bad tomato.

No problem. I think I got a little distracted and started to talk about 
Buddhism. I need to concentrate more.

:-)

>
>>
>>
>>>>> So if I truly believe I can fly like a butterfly I can do so.
>>>>
>>>> No, I don't think so. The physical world is an illusion, but it does not
>>>> mean we can ignore it altogether. We only need to be aware that it's not
>>>> real, so we will not be fooled to lose our focus in life.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since you obviously are only interested in convoluted discussions
>>> where you can keep twisting the thread is as many directions as
>>> possible without actually going anywhere such a "discussion" becomes
>>> tiresome after a point.  I have reached that point.
>>>
>>> Enjoy playing with yourself.
>>
>> Thanks for spending time with me. It's always a good exercise for me.
>>
>
> the dukester, American-American
>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****
>

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#361233

FromDoug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com>
Date2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
Message-ID<mr0csj$k35$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#361166
niunian wrote:
> Attila  wrote:
>
>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.

As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has
had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  As far
back as can be found, a large percentage of the poulation has no direct
observation of the spirits of the world.

So there's no surprise that any one individual does not detect them.

> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same 
> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The 
> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.

Yet no instrument has ever detected the spirits of the world, either. 
As such that direct personal observation does not constitute "evidence".

Until some such instrument is invented, if ever, the matter of direct
personal observeration that is the starting point of all religion
remains outside of the realm of science.  To the extent no one tries to
impose their observations on others - Ooops there for a small number of
very large population religions.  To the extent no one claims that the
existence of their deity can be proved by science - Ooops there for one
specific very large population religion.

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#361251

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
Message-ID<mr0jm5$7pf$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#361233
On 2015-08-19 06:51 AM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
> niunian wrote:
>> Attila  wrote:
>>
>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>
> As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has
> had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.

It's not called "observation". It's better called as "understanding". It 
is not possible to "observe" the spiritual world.

   As far
> back as can be found, a large percentage of the poulation has no direct
> observation of the spirits of the world.
>
> So there's no surprise that any one individual does not detect them.
>
>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>
> Yet no instrument has ever detected the spirits of the world, either.
> As such that direct personal observation does not constitute "evidence".
>
> Until some such instrument is invented,

No need to bother. It can not be done.


  if ever, the matter of direct
> personal observeration that is the starting point of all religion
> remains outside of the realm of science.  To the extent no one tries to
> impose their observations on others - Ooops there for a small number of
> very large population religions.  To the extent no one claims that the
> existence of their deity can be proved by science - Ooops there for one
> specific very large population religion.

Your claim is flawed. Religion is a philosophy of life that is outside 
science. Science can not prove or disprove philosophy. It is neither 
capable, nor qualified to talk about philosophy.


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#361259

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-334022.18302018082015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#361233
In article <mr0csj$k35$1@dont-email.me>,
 Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote:

> niunian wrote:
> > Attila  wrote:
> >
> >> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
> 
> As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has
> had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  ]


What "spirits"? Do you have any evidence that any such thing exists?

And, no, visions indistinguishable from hallucinations are not evidence.

-- 

JD

I've officially given up trying to find the bottom 
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom 
Rosario, Addicting Info

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#361277

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
Message-ID<jvf8tah1h8hi8fjrkqgqvra3nc0f54b0fk@4ax.com>
In reply to#361233
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:51:00 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
<dfreybur@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<mr0csj$k35$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>niunian wrote:
>> Attila  wrote:
>>
>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>
>As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has
>had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  As far
>back as can be found, a large percentage of the poulation has no direct
>observation of the spirits of the world.
>
>So there's no surprise that any one individual does not detect them.

I wonder what percentage of that "small percentage' was on drugs at
the time?  Or was delusional?

Or flat out lied?

>
>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same 
>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The 
>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>
>Yet no instrument has ever detected the spirits of the world, either. 
>As such that direct personal observation does not constitute "evidence".
>
>Until some such instrument is invented, if ever, the matter of direct
>personal observeration that is the starting point of all religion
>remains outside of the realm of science.  To the extent no one tries to
>impose their observations on others - Ooops there for a small number of
>very large population religions.  To the extent no one claims that the
>existence of their deity can be proved by science - Ooops there for one
>specific very large population religion.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361084

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
Message-ID<d3e1u7Ftc24U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#361076
On 17/08/2015 10:56, Attila < wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>
>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>
>>> <looks around>
>>>
>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>
>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>> called a realization from the within.
>
> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.

There's nothing ambiguous about it being poppycock.

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#361141

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
Message-ID<6uq4tahd8mg45vs3dghskhle3j5mt78hbp@4ax.com>
In reply to#361084
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:21:27 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in
alt.atheism with message-id <d3e1u7Ftc24U2@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>On 17/08/2015 10:56, Attila < wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>
>>>> <looks around>
>>>>
>>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>>
>>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>>> called a realization from the within.
>>
>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>
>There's nothing ambiguous about it being poppycock.
>

True, but it also contains more than a bit of ambiguity.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361089

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
Message-ID<d3e321FtnnhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#361048
On 17/08/2015 03:52, niunian wrote:
> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>> world of death.
>>>>
>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>
>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>> living will cease to exist.
>>
>> <looks around>
>>
>> No god, and everything is still here...
>
> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
> called a realization from the within.

I did experience that once.
It was a fever-induced hallucination.
I recovered.

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#361099

Fromkefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com>
Date2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Message-ID<e834ta9h4dll00bapme756e4c7mlrem7if@4ax.com>
In reply to#361089
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:40:33 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 17/08/2015 03:52, niunian wrote nonsense:

        More nonsense about nothingness cross-posted
indiscriminately.





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