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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. |
| Date | 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mrv78u$nmv$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 15-08-30 11:07 AM, duke wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> On 15-08-29 05:09 AM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:45 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrr8pb$rul$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-28 09:25 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:58:12 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrom69$ae3$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> It's all because you actually believe it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apparently you think all of reality is based upon belief. I am >>>>>>> curious. If there is something that no one knows about - an entirely >>>>>>> new thing such as a plant or animal or cave - does this thing exist or >>>>>>> not exist? Remember, if no one knows about it then no one can have >>>>>>> any kind of a belief about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> If something does not exist, then you or anyone else would not have >>>>>> mentioned it. The fact you are now mentioning it, its existence has >>>>>> become uncertain. So there is no way to answer your question until I can >>>>>> verify its existence. >>>>> >>>>> Nonsense. People talk about things that don't exist frequently. The >>>>> Tooth Fairy, gods, all sorts of literary fiction. The list is large. >>>> >>>> They are talking about things they know they don't exist. You are >>>> talking about a thing that exists but no one knows. You neglected >>>> yourself being the one who actually knows. The fact you know it exists >>>> has ensured its existence. For me, I have to check to find out whether >>>> you are lying or not. So its existence is uncertain. >>> >>> You are practiced in saying a lot without any content aren't you? >> >> Not really. Your question somehow is very similar to a Buddhist >> philosophical question. It was like this: "If a tree fell down in the >> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test >> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it >> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer >> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct >> answer, as I have given you, is not sure. > > You have to excuse hvac. He's a bad tomato. No problem. I think I got a little distracted and started to talk about Buddhism. I need to concentrate more. :-) > >> >> >>>>> So if I truly believe I can fly like a butterfly I can do so. >>>> >>>> No, I don't think so. The physical world is an illusion, but it does not >>>> mean we can ignore it altogether. We only need to be aware that it's not >>>> real, so we will not be fooled to lose our focus in life. >>>> >>> >>> Since you obviously are only interested in convoluted discussions >>> where you can keep twisting the thread is as many directions as >>> possible without actually going anywhere such a "discussion" becomes >>> tiresome after a point. I have reached that point. >>> >>> Enjoy playing with yourself. >> >> Thanks for spending time with me. It's always a good exercise for me. >> > > the dukester, American-American > > ***** > "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." > Pope Paul VI > ***** >
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:27 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 01:11 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400
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