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| Started by | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| First post | 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361076 |
On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>> >>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>> world of death. >>>>> >>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>> >>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>> living will cease to exist. >>> >>> <looks around> >>> >>> No god, and everything is still here... >> >> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, >> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's >> called a realization from the within. > > It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. Why？ Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was from the within? > > -- > Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. > > Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially > those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. > > Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government > guaranteed above average income for every person. > > Every illegal alien is a criminal. > No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. > Deportation upon identification as the only option. > > If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly > before you run into me. >
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <v7p4talkqbn8j31s961hmht11oikhaoek8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361081 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:49:19 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>>> world of death. >>>>>> >>>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>>> >>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>>> living will cease to exist. >>>> >>>> <looks around> >>>> >>>> No god, and everything is still here... >>> >>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, >>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's >>> called a realization from the within. >> >> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. > >Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >from the within? I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361140 |
On 2015-08-18 06:50 AM, Attila < wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:49:19 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>>>> world of death. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>>>> living will cease to exist. >>>>> >>>>> <looks around> >>>>> >>>>> No god, and everything is still here... >>>> >>>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, >>>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's >>>> called a realization from the within. >>> >>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >> >> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>from the within? > > I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5fn5tahgjehhh0o2ip3hbkffu90qvri5m8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361166 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >>> >>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>>from the within? >> >> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. > >I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. That still holds true. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361171 |
On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >>>> >>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>> >from the within? >>> >>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. >> >> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. > > As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever > existed. That still holds true. I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4sf8tap9a9com2ur4ta9ro498p65vl0frl@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361247 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >>>>> >>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>>> >from the within? >>>> >>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. >>> >>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. >> >> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever >> existed. That still holds true. > >I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see. But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying. For most of history I would have long since been executed for heresy. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361276 |
On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>>>> >from the within? >>>>> >>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. >>>> >>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. >>> >>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever >>> existed. That still holds true. >> >> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see. > > But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying. For most of > history I would have long since been executed for heresy. Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here by being wilfully blind?
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vi5btal4pmc4pcmcbn5en5rqrco730i6lr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361287 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:41:05 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>>>>> >from the within? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. >>>>> >>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. >>>> >>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever >>>> existed. That still holds true. >>> >>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see. >> >> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying. For most of >> history I would have long since been executed for heresy. > >Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here >by being wilfully blind? > > Not at all. It would be a bit difficult to do anything to me since I am not here physically. I am far from blind. I simply have not been brainwashed to accept that which has no supporting evidence. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr4p1l$2oe$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361358 |
On 2015-08-20 04:58 PM, Attila < wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:41:05 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>>>>>> >from the within? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >>>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >>>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. >>>>> >>>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever >>>>> existed. That still holds true. >>>> >>>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see. >>> >>> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying. For most of >>> history I would have long since been executed for heresy. >> >> Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here >> by being wilfully blind? >> >> > > Not at all. It would be a bit difficult to do anything to me since I > am not here physically. > > I am far from blind. I simply have not been brainwashed to accept > that which has no supporting evidence. > And yet, you don't appear to be able to understand my rather simple philosophical point of view. To me, that counts as wilful blindness on your part.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m5qdtatq3aj72102pnfn39g7lhv6oj4gte@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361376 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:44:13 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mr4p1l$2oe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-20 04:58 PM, Attila < wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:41:05 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was >>>>>>>> >from the within? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >>>>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >>>>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever >>>>>> existed. That still holds true. >>>>> >>>>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see. >>>> >>>> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying. For most of >>>> history I would have long since been executed for heresy. >>> >>> Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here >>> by being wilfully blind? >>> >>> >> >> Not at all. It would be a bit difficult to do anything to me since I >> am not here physically. >> >> I am far from blind. I simply have not been brainwashed to accept >> that which has no supporting evidence. >> > >And yet, you don't appear to be able to understand my rather simple >philosophical point of view. To me, that counts as wilful blindness on >your part. You are free to count anything whatever you like. That has nothing to do with either accuracy or reality. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mr0csj$k35$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361166 |
niunian wrote: > Attila wrote: > >> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. As far back as can be found, a large percentage of the poulation has no direct observation of the spirits of the world. So there's no surprise that any one individual does not detect them. > I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same > way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The > spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. Yet no instrument has ever detected the spirits of the world, either. As such that direct personal observation does not constitute "evidence". Until some such instrument is invented, if ever, the matter of direct personal observeration that is the starting point of all religion remains outside of the realm of science. To the extent no one tries to impose their observations on others - Ooops there for a small number of very large population religions. To the extent no one claims that the existence of their deity can be proved by science - Ooops there for one specific very large population religion.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr0jm5$7pf$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361233 |
On 2015-08-19 06:51 AM, Doug Freyburger wrote: > niunian wrote: >> Attila wrote: >> >>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. > > As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has > had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. It's not called "observation". It's better called as "understanding". It is not possible to "observe" the spiritual world. As far > back as can be found, a large percentage of the poulation has no direct > observation of the spirits of the world. > > So there's no surprise that any one individual does not detect them. > >> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. > > Yet no instrument has ever detected the spirits of the world, either. > As such that direct personal observation does not constitute "evidence". > > Until some such instrument is invented, No need to bother. It can not be done. if ever, the matter of direct > personal observeration that is the starting point of all religion > remains outside of the realm of science. To the extent no one tries to > impose their observations on others - Ooops there for a small number of > very large population religions. To the extent no one claims that the > existence of their deity can be proved by science - Ooops there for one > specific very large population religion. Your claim is flawed. Religion is a philosophy of life that is outside science. Science can not prove or disprove philosophy. It is neither capable, nor qualified to talk about philosophy.
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-334022.18302018082015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #361233 |
In article <mr0csj$k35$1@dont-email.me>, Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote: > niunian wrote: > > Attila wrote: > > > >> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. > > As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has > had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. ] What "spirits"? Do you have any evidence that any such thing exists? And, no, visions indistinguishable from hallucinations are not evidence. -- JD I've officially given up trying to find the bottom of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom Rosario, Addicting Info
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400 |
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:51:00 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mr0csj$k35$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >niunian wrote: >> Attila wrote: >> >>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed. > >As far back as can be found, a small percentage of the population has >had direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. As far >back as can be found, a large percentage of the poulation has no direct >observation of the spirits of the world. > >So there's no surprise that any one individual does not detect them. I wonder what percentage of that "small percentage' was on drugs at the time? Or was delusional? Or flat out lied? > >> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same >> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The >> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes. > >Yet no instrument has ever detected the spirits of the world, either. >As such that direct personal observation does not constitute "evidence". > >Until some such instrument is invented, if ever, the matter of direct >personal observeration that is the starting point of all religion >remains outside of the realm of science. To the extent no one tries to >impose their observations on others - Ooops there for a small number of >very large population religions. To the extent no one claims that the >existence of their deity can be proved by science - Ooops there for one >specific very large population religion. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d3e1u7Ftc24U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #361076 |
On 17/08/2015 10:56, Attila < wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>> >>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>> world of death. >>>>> >>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>> >>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>> living will cease to exist. >>> >>> <looks around> >>> >>> No god, and everything is still here... >> >> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, >> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's >> called a realization from the within. > > It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. There's nothing ambiguous about it being poppycock.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6uq4tahd8mg45vs3dghskhle3j5mt78hbp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361084 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:21:27 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in alt.atheism with message-id <d3e1u7Ftc24U2@mid.individual.net> wrote: >On 17/08/2015 10:56, Attila < wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>>> world of death. >>>>>> >>>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>>> >>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>>> living will cease to exist. >>>> >>>> <looks around> >>>> >>>> No god, and everything is still here... >>> >>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, >>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's >>> called a realization from the within. >> >> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. > >There's nothing ambiguous about it being poppycock. > True, but it also contains more than a bit of ambiguity. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d3e321FtnnhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #361048 |
On 17/08/2015 03:52, niunian wrote: > On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>> >>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>> world of death. >>>> >>>> And what definition is _that_? >>> >>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>> living will cease to exist. >> >> <looks around> >> >> No god, and everything is still here... > > The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, > there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's > called a realization from the within. I did experience that once. It was a fever-induced hallucination. I recovered.
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <e834ta9h4dll00bapme756e4c7mlrem7if@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361089 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:40:33 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>On 17/08/2015 03:52, niunian wrote nonsense:
More nonsense about nothingness cross-posted
indiscriminately.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqt3bj$96o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361089 |
On 2015-08-17 08:40 PM, Alex W. wrote: > On 17/08/2015 03:52, niunian wrote: >> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>> >>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>> world of death. >>>>> >>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>> >>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the >>>> world of >>>> living will cease to exist. >>> >>> <looks around> >>> >>> No god, and everything is still here... >> >> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, >> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's >> called a realization from the within. > > I did experience that once. > It was a fever-induced hallucination. > I recovered. Nothing to do with hallucinations. It's just simple understanding with the power to change one's life. The mind is clear and at peace. No visual image, and no voices in the mind.
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nba4ta1mf65v9vfic43j4e3mas5asia874@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361103 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:51:06 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:
>On 2015-08-17 08:40 PM, Alex W. wrote nothing but nonsense:
More nonsense about nothingness cross-posted
indiscriminately.
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