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| Started by | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| First post | 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500 |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:35:47 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-19 04:33 PM, Attila < wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:45:13 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqo$2h7$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>>>> If philosophy is nothing but unsupported speculative drivel to you, then >>>>> I feel sorry too. In fact, from my philosophical point of view, what you >>>>> call reality is what I call illusion of the mind. That makes me even sadder. >>>> >>>> Bully for you. While philosophy has it's place in speculating about >>>> new ways of thinking in and of itself it is rather useless unless it >>>> is supported and verified by the real world. >>> >>> Philosophy has no problem explaining the world, but its focus is not the >>> world. It explains life by focusing on the truth and reality which the >>> world is based on. Your so called real world can not support or verify >>> the truth because the existence of this real world relies on the truth >>> rather than the other way around. >> >> Your philosophy is useless if it doesn't benchmark back to the real >> world. It is nothing more than speculation. > >As I said, philosophy has no problem explaining the world. You don't >like it. You want limit philosophy within your scientific understanding. >That's absurd. What else would you expect of him, an attila. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr3m2v$c21$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361336 |
On 2015-08-20 06:22 AM, duke wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:35:47 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-19 04:33 PM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:45:13 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqo$2h7$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>>>> If philosophy is nothing but unsupported speculative drivel to you, then >>>>>> I feel sorry too. In fact, from my philosophical point of view, what you >>>>>> call reality is what I call illusion of the mind. That makes me even sadder. >>>>> >>>>> Bully for you. While philosophy has it's place in speculating about >>>>> new ways of thinking in and of itself it is rather useless unless it >>>>> is supported and verified by the real world. >>>> >>>> Philosophy has no problem explaining the world, but its focus is not the >>>> world. It explains life by focusing on the truth and reality which the >>>> world is based on. Your so called real world can not support or verify >>>> the truth because the existence of this real world relies on the truth >>>> rather than the other way around. >>> >>> Your philosophy is useless if it doesn't benchmark back to the real >>> world. It is nothing more than speculation. >> >> As I said, philosophy has no problem explaining the world. You don't >> like it. You want limit philosophy within your scientific understanding. >> That's absurd. > > What else would you expect of him, an attila. I have given up talking about spirituality to an atheist, so I limit myself to talk about philosophy instead. It confuses the hell out of them. :-) > > the dukester, American-American > > ***** > "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." > Pope Paul VI > ***** >
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| From | Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mr3n9m$ekg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361345 |
Le 2015-08-20 00:47, niunian a écrit : >> What else would you expect of him, an attila. > > I have given up talking about spirituality to an atheist, so I limit > myself to talk about philosophy instead. It confuses the hell out of them. Yup. I'm sure it does. We're all confused now. Yup. We sure are. Silly us. Indeed. -- Olrik aa #1981 EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr4ojb$uu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361347 |
On 2015-08-20 01:08 PM, Olrik wrote: > Le 2015-08-20 00:47, niunian a écrit : > >>> What else would you expect of him, an attila. >> >> I have given up talking about spirituality to an atheist, so I limit >> myself to talk about philosophy instead. It confuses the hell out of >> them. > > Yup. I'm sure it does. > > We're all confused now. > > Yup. We sure are. > > Silly us. > > Indeed. Not really. I'm just glad that people are willing to talk about philosophy instead of flat out rejecting it. In time, people may want to talk about spirituality as well. :-)
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <if9ctah13r44j9au77eu27ec6ihqstath7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361345 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:47:34 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-20 06:22 AM, duke wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:35:47 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-19 04:33 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:45:13 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqo$2h7$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> If philosophy is nothing but unsupported speculative drivel to you, then >>>>>>> I feel sorry too. In fact, from my philosophical point of view, what you >>>>>>> call reality is what I call illusion of the mind. That makes me even sadder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bully for you. While philosophy has it's place in speculating about >>>>>> new ways of thinking in and of itself it is rather useless unless it >>>>>> is supported and verified by the real world. >>>>> >>>>> Philosophy has no problem explaining the world, but its focus is not the >>>>> world. It explains life by focusing on the truth and reality which the >>>>> world is based on. Your so called real world can not support or verify >>>>> the truth because the existence of this real world relies on the truth >>>>> rather than the other way around. >>>> >>>> Your philosophy is useless if it doesn't benchmark back to the real >>>> world. It is nothing more than speculation. >>> >>> As I said, philosophy has no problem explaining the world. You don't >>> like it. You want limit philosophy within your scientific understanding. >>> That's absurd. >> >> What else would you expect of him, an attila. > >I have given up talking about spirituality to an atheist, so I limit >myself to talk about philosophy instead. It confuses the hell out of them. But it's so much fun. They are stoned is disbelief and will turn to any stupidity trying to correct us. >:-) the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m55btad365t0kg8jpqnqsah1t6qndfoc04@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361286 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:35:47 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$3@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-19 04:33 PM, Attila < wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:45:13 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqo$2h7$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>>>> If philosophy is nothing but unsupported speculative drivel to you, then >>>>> I feel sorry too. In fact, from my philosophical point of view, what you >>>>> call reality is what I call illusion of the mind. That makes me even sadder. >>>> >>>> Bully for you. While philosophy has it's place in speculating about >>>> new ways of thinking in and of itself it is rather useless unless it >>>> is supported and verified by the real world. >>> >>> Philosophy has no problem explaining the world, but its focus is not the >>> world. It explains life by focusing on the truth and reality which the >>> world is based on. Your so called real world can not support or verify >>> the truth because the existence of this real world relies on the truth >>> rather than the other way around. >> >> Your philosophy is useless if it doesn't benchmark back to the real >> world. It is nothing more than speculation. > >As I said, philosophy has no problem explaining the world. Of course not. Since it is speculation until it actually benchmarks against the real world it can explain anything. > You don't >like it. You want limit philosophy within your scientific understanding. >That's absurd. I neither like or dislike it. I recognize it has it's place but it certainly is not an end-all in and of itself. It is a useful tool when used properly. That's all. >>>> Go sleep on a freeway centerline and your illusion of the mind will >>>> probably insure you won't get up again. >>> >>> The highway is an illusion. The body is an illusion. The perceived >>> "accident" in your mind is also nothing but an illusion. However, in the >>> mist all these illusions, there is something that should be not an >>> illusion. It's called life. >> >> Amusing. Insane, but amusing. >> >> Lie down on a freeway. The result will hardly be an illusion. > >Actually that is exactly why it is called an illusion instead of a >hallucination. If you follow the rules of the physical world, you will >never be able to prove it wrong. Only by enquiring into the nature of >the mind, can you understand the origin and the nature of the physical >world. A meaningless statement if I ever read one. > >> >>> >>> That's why the philosophy of life is an important issue, and why the >>> Bible is more important than any of the science books. >> >> I can conceive of nothing less important than an unverified book of >> speculation and myth. >> > >That's why you are wrong. You don't even understand the Bible. Why should I waste my time with it? It is just another unverified book. There are millions of them from which to choose, and my interests lie along different lines. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o3p1tahtgnar8bq2he9kqg42ah6vroaiat@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #360960 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 04:02:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:25:55 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >alt.atheism with message-id <mqn4v1$b85$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >>On 2015-08-15 05:31 PM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:30:57 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>> In article <mqi4cj$v8l$2@dont-email.me>, >>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>> >>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>> >>>>> -- wds >>>>> >>>> >>>> By definition >>> >>> What definition? >> >>The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. > >Just where can this definition be found? Please include supporting >evidence. Since you don't provide supporting evidence, we don't need to either. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mqqq8g$her$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361024 |
On 8/16/2015 2:29 PM, duke wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 04:02:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:25:55 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mqn4v1$b85$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-15 05:31 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:30:57 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> In article <mqi4cj$v8l$2@dont-email.me>, >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- wds >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By definition >>>> >>>> What definition? >>> >>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. >> >> Just where can this definition be found? Please include supporting >> evidence. > > Since you don't provide supporting evidence, we don't need to either. > > the dukester, American-American > > ***** > "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." > Pope Paul VI > ***** > Yes, you do.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9lb3tat7ecsh7ttrvoks1mjvtg9k2h9coj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361024 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:29:41 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <o3p1tahtgnar8bq2he9kqg42ah6vroaiat@4ax.com> wrote: >On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 04:02:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:25:55 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>alt.atheism with message-id <mqn4v1$b85$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>>On 2015-08-15 05:31 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:30:57 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> In article <mqi4cj$v8l$2@dont-email.me>, >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- wds >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By definition >>>> >>>> What definition? >>> >>>The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. >> >>Just where can this definition be found? Please include supporting >>evidence. > >Since you don't provide supporting evidence, we don't need to either. Supporting evidence for what? I have made no assertions. You, however, have made many. I am still waiting for a source for that definition you presented. Or did you just make it up off the top of your head? -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mr0bmt$gks$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #360861 |
niunian wrote: > > The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported function to deities. Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. The majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve. God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. Across history and prehistory many mystics have reproted and continue to report direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. Some report observation of deity. Some report deity is one. Some report deities are many. Those who report deity is one disagree on the personalities of deity. One Occam's Razor approach is to not multiply deities so deity is many and some mystics only met one of them. One Occam's Razor approach is to keep it simple and say billions of well adjusted and sincere citizens were deluded.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr0oc5$et8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #361230 |
On 2015-08-19 06:30 AM, Doug Freyburger wrote: > niunian wrote: >> >> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. > > Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported > function to deities. Occam's Razor doesn't apply. You haven't been able to understand the issue here. The appearance of life doesn't explain everything about life. Life demonstrates a nature that is intelligent. Such intelligent nature hasn't been shown to exist independent of life. It can not be taken for granted as a mere function of the physical matter. It is not. It comes from God alone.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361230 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote: >niunian wrote: >> >> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. > >Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported >function to deities. > >Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who >have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. The >majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if >the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve. >God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. God is creator of all things. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5h5btal0gp3rpsjoi1d4gdbk3u5pd41cjj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361337 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:23:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> wrote: >On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> >wrote: > >>niunian wrote: >>> >>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. >> >>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported >>function to deities. >> >>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who >>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. The >>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if >>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve. > >>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. > >God is creator of all things. > You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever existed. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ih9ctalcbfnt9vhgm2be2tr49b4jhcumiv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361357 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:56:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:23:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> >>wrote: >> >>>niunian wrote: >>>> >>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. >>> >>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported >>>function to deities. >>> >>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who >>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. The >>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if >>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve. >> >>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. >> >>God is creator of all things. >You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever >existed. At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53qdta53m563c5sf1n46vlekejo9a023br@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361390 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:11:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <ih9ctalcbfnt9vhgm2be2tr49b4jhcumiv@4ax.com> wrote: >On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:56:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:23:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><se0atatjtci96j7u46mm4ch5kk9qjippb4@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>niunian wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things. >>>> >>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported >>>>function to deities. >>>> >>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who >>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world. The >>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if >>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve. >>> >>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. >>> >>>God is creator of all things. > >>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever >>existed. > >At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head. > You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and get a ladder. And a shovel. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqp6u5$ah8$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #360684 |
In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >> >>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >> >> Um, what definition is that? > > By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the > world of death. And what definition is _that_? -- wds
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #360954 |
On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>> >>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>> >>> Um, what definition is that? >> >> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >> world of death. > > And what definition is _that_? It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of living will cease to exist. > > -- wds >
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d3bj8sFag85U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #360976 |
On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: > On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >> >>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>> >>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>> >>>> Um, what definition is that? >>> >>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>> world of death. >> >> And what definition is _that_? > > It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all > living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of > living will cease to exist. <looks around> No god, and everything is still here...
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #360996 |
On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: > On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>> >>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>> >>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>> world of death. >>> >>> And what definition is _that_? >> >> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >> living will cease to exist. > > <looks around> > > No god, and everything is still here... The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's called a realization from the within.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <itb3tapsfbkti28g2cgndc14k19p0dkfda@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361048 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote: >> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>> >>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>> world of death. >>>> >>>> And what definition is _that_? >>> >>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>> living will cease to exist. >> >> <looks around> >> >> No god, and everything is still here... > >The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, >there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's >called a realization from the within. It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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