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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800 |
| Last post | 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800 |
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Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 11:33 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:54 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-30 21:03 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-31 15:20 +0100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 14:31 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:13 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-30 12:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:04 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-31 06:59 +0100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:06 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:15 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:48 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:20 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-30 21:30 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 15:24 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:25 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:28 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "chwilozof" <nieznajome@att.com> - 2016-12-30 16:33 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 14:25 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:31 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 13:03 +1100
How to travel in time Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-31 02:38 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 15:32 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 23:05 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 19:07 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 10:51 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:44 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 17:26 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 13:10 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:48 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:03 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 21:07 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 16:25 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-02 10:19 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:54 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-04 16:45 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:53 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 11:38 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-05 12:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:19 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:18 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:45 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 17:50 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 13:29 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:13 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-07 11:57 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:34 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:12 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 22:40 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 04:02 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 00:37 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:18 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:00 -0700
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:43 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:44 -0700
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 07:23 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-31 12:56 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-12-31 20:54 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 13:36 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 00:29 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 19:02 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 20:10 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:07 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-01 06:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:43 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:33 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:10 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 14:56 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:43 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:46 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:16 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:58 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:46 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:37 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 16:51 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-01 15:07 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 15:47 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 09:52 -0600
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:52 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 11:16 -0600
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:19 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:52 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:50 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-01 23:39 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 19:15 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:56 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 06:59 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:57 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 20:31 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:02 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 23:05 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:17 +0000
Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.deer> - 2017-01-02 23:21 +0000
Re: Winona Bellard, urine good-time girl whore Olinda Metcalfe <efacf@ecMlcn.org> - 2017-01-02 23:33 +0000
Guilt without sex Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no.pipe> - 2017-01-02 23:22 +0000
Re: Guilt without sex benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-02 18:49 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:58 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-03 18:03 -0500
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-09 21:20 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 16:53 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 06:07 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 19:18 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 00:28 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 14:08 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:41 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 11:46 +1100
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 23:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:45 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:41 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 06:44 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 21:08 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:19 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:01 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> - 2017-01-11 21:51 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:09 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 00:09 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:25 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 07:52 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:58 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:11 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-13 22:37 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 22:41 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:00 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 15:25 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-14 10:16 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 11:18 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:28 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:44 -0800
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 13:47 +0000
Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:29 -0800
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 14:04 -0500
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 11:19 -0700
Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 20:45 -0500
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 07:43 -0800
Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <586FD2BD.2771@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #404298 |
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: > > Alan Baker: > > Do you agree that riots occured, leading to hundreds of arrests, > during the protests over Trump's election? > > *One* answer, not > > yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no > /yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/n > o/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/ > no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/ > > like you've been doing. > > We both (and everyone else) know you *can't* answer once, and stick > with it, since the answer is "Yes, Clinton supporters are far more > prone to criminal violence than Trump supporters or Obama haters." > And you *can't* accept that, due to your illness. > > Get help, Alan. Seriously. Before you hurt yourself. You're not > interacting with the world around you any more. > > -- > Terry Austin > > Vacation photos from Iceland: > https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB > > "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole." > -- David Bilek > > Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals. I don't allow 'internet bullies' on my threads. Go to Canada...with the rest of the sissies.
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-06 10:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6F565D626ACBtaustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #404301 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:586FD2BD.2771@ix.netcom.com:
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>
>> Alan Baker:
>>
>> Do you agree that riots occured, leading to hundreds of
>> arrests, during the protests over Trump's election?
>>
>> *One* answer, not
>>
>> yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/y
>> es/no
>> /yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/
>> yes/n
>> o/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no
>> /yes/ no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/
>>
>> like you've been doing.
>>
>> We both (and everyone else) know you *can't* answer once, and
>> stick with it, since the answer is "Yes, Clinton supporters are
>> far more prone to criminal violence than Trump supporters or
>> Obama haters." And you *can't* accept that, due to your
>> illness.
>>
>> Get help, Alan. Seriously. Before you hurt yourself. You're not
>> interacting with the world around you any more.
>>
>> --
>> Terry Austin
>>
>> Vacation photos from Iceland:
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
>>
>> "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
>> -- David Bilek
>>
>> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
>
> I don't allow 'internet bullies' on my threads.
Good thing this isn't your thread, nor is any other, and that
you're a helpless pussy (though not as mentally ill as Alan).
>
>
> Go to Canada...with the rest of the sissies.
>
Make me, pussy.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-07 21:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7h637cpkv2vflpkf2k1n9d615k7h85vcs9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #404206 |
On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 11:18:18 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 6/01/2017 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> >> how about the time traveler goes back a day and buys a lottery ticket >> that pays 500 million dollars, goes back to the future and deposits >> the money, goes back again, plays the same numbers, goes back and >> deposits another 500 million, goes back again, plays the same >> numbers, goes back and deposits another 500 million, >> One way to make it consistent is to notice that when he goes back the second time, there will be two of him coming for the lottery payout (from his first and second trips back). Like Sylvia said, he is by definition, in a different "timeline." Most solvent lotteries won't pay the same guy twice - lol. If, on his second trip back (second self), he's first at the payout window and moves the $500 mil to the future, then his first self got/gets "stiffed" (doesn't get paid). His second self arrives back in the future with the second $500 mil but there is no $500 mil from his first self's previous trip (because he has stiffed his first self back in the past). The only thing I don't like is that it requires the original $500 mil to disappear when he arrives back from the second trip back. But I can argue the two trips back are to two different "timelines" and the present is also a different "timeline." Previously, my philosophy/theory has always been that changes made in the past cannot affect the future but I did not cover the case where you take an object from the past and introduce it into the present. I can argue that the object (e.g. $500 mil) added to your present bank account is a change made in the present and not in the past. It may now affect the present. The addition of the $500 mil to the present affects the present, but the removal of the $500 mil from the past will only affect the past if you stay in the past. It doesn't affect the present once you return. This a problem with time travel backward. If it can affect the present, that requires things in the present to move around quickly to accomplish said changes prior to your arrival back in the present. In the limit of a quick time travel trip (actual time spent traveling and not the duration of your stay in the past) when you return to the present, any changes you expect could require massive objects to move much faster than light. Regardless of how long it takes you to travel to the past (and back), requiring changes you make in the past to take effect in the present could easily require massive objects in the present to move much faster than light in order to meet this requirement. Possibly a sort of "Time Quake" (ala the movie "Millennium") could spread the required changes in the present over more time and reduce the velocity requirement to below light speed. you would arrive back in the present and have to wait a while for the changes to fully take effect. Mike See you at the show trials - lol. --------------------------------------------------- Michael J. Strickland Reston, VA ---------------------------------------------------
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| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-05 16:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6F4AA4F59941taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #404168 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:586EA0AD.16BE@ix.netcom.com:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> >
>> > On 4/01/2017 4:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > Sylvia Else wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> On 3/01/2017 5:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On 2/01/2017 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>> The Earth has been hit by large objects in the past,
>> > >>>>>> causing mass extinctions.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Oh oh, here comes the "What happen to the dinosaurs?"
>> > >>>>> theories...i thought you had more intelligence thab
>> > >>>>> that...i guess I over estimated you...you are a girl.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that such a
>> > >>>>>> thing could happen again, and be severe enough to wipe
>> > >>>>>> out the human race.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> every single person, right?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Why not?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> You never heard of...survive?
>> > >>
>> > >> In an episode of "Dinosaurs" a school teacher explained
>> > >> that there will always be more of an endangered animal
>> > >> species, because that's what "more" means.
>> > >>
>> > >> Is that your manner of thinking here?
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Your logic says there are no time travlers because the
>> > >>> comet killed them.
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> No it's doesn't, and I'm having a hard time understanding
>> > >> why you've got this so muddled.
>> > >>
>> > >> The point at issue is not whether there are no time
>> > >> travellers for this reason, nor even whether time travel
>> > >> is possible. The focus is on whether your purported proof
>> > >> of the absence of time travel is valid.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm offering alternative scenarios that explain the
>> > >> absence of time travellers even if time travel is
>> > >> possible. These possible, even if unlikely, scenarios
>> > >> invalidate your proof which depends on the impossibility
>> > >> of time travel being the only possible explanation for the
>> > >> absence of time travellers.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sylvia.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Maybe your problem is...with the words..."not possible",
>> > > and you use...'it is possible'.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Your "alternative scenarios" are based on...probability.
>> > > And, "probability" is a math term, and math is not science.
>> > >
>> > > Math is not reality.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not interested in...probabilities.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I think you just don't want to concede that your proof
>> > doesn't work.
>> >
>> > Sylvia.
>>
>> Let me explain why a comet will never wipe out
>> cilivatization...
>>
>> Probability is the possibility that an event will occur, as
>> expressed by the ratio of the number of actual occurrences to
>> the total number of possible occurrences.
>>
>> Since a comet has never wiped out civilization on earth, there
>> is no actual occurrence by ratio, no two amounts, or even one
>> amount.
>>
>> It is "an improbable event". A comet will never wipe out
>> civilatization because it is impossible.
>>
>> Therefore, any time travelers in the future would be here now
>> buying lottery tickets and betting at the racetrack.
>>
>> Time Travel Is Not Possible and it's Impossible.
>>
>> That is not how the world and the universe works.
>>
>> Nature is not going to go to all this trouble and then wipe out
>> civilazation with a comet. It's not in the works..
>
>
>
> okay, maybe the time traveler killing his grandfather is a
> little too much..
>
> how about the time traveler goes back a day and buys a lottery
> ticket that pays 500 million dollars, goes back to the future
> and deposits the money, goes back again, plays the same numbers,
> goes back and deposits another 500 million, goes back again,
> plays the same numbers, goes back and deposits another 500
> million,
>
>
> i'm having trouble figuring out where is all this money coming
> from... are the serial numbers the same? are the lottery
> officals wondering why are there all these paid checks made out
> to the same person shows paid over billion dollars but only 500
> million paid out..
>
> something is wrong with your 'possible time travel senerios'.
>
> Nature doesn't work this way.
Neither do lotteries, since the payout is divided amongst all the
winning tickest.
How fucking pathetic do you have to be to not understand that?
Retard.
--
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| From | Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 07:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o47mdo$1ov4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #403569 |
Sylvia Else wrote: > That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller from > the far future has come here is that there is no far future from which to > come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become extinct due to > natural disaster, etc. Sylvia. Completely untrue. No need of natural disasters and etc. The ability of survival for species is inverse proportional with that particular specie's intelligence based on brain. Hence the most successful species are the microbial which can adapt and survive without a brain. A specie with brain life span is about one hundred thousands years. Make it two, since you insist. I can tell you why. The reality is so brutal, forcing a species to develop a brain. A brain which is nothing more than a lie machine. The lies are indispensable, strictly required. That's why you have politics, churches, movies, etc etc, and even music. Actually the Musics conclude our little discussion. Music is nothing more than a vibration of air molecules. The lying brain translate it in something else, which definitely can be not. It's a lie. Fully consistent with my Divergent Matter Model, btw.
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 12:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o48rfs$q8u$1@panix3.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #403569 |
In article <ecoqnjFu4jgU1@mid.individual.net>, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> said: > On 31/12/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> I would say by now somebody in the far future would be here >> now... > > That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time > traveller from the far future has come here is that there is no > far future from which to come - civilisation wipes itself out - > humans become extinct due to natural disaster, etc. Or, even for them time travel has a resource cost which becomes, let's say, exponentially prohibitive the farther back you want to go. If it's the year 5000 and you want to go to 4900, okay, we got the budget for that. Back to the year 4000? This better be *real* important. The year 2000? Yeah, right, let me know when we can tap the full energy of twenty-six galaxies in one Planck second. (There's also of course the two-ends-of-a-wormhole model of time travel that uses a permanent, stationary-in-space installation, and by definition you can only go as far back as the moment that the system was first brought online. If nobody's built and activated one of those yet, there's no way they can get back in time to us.) -- wds
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 11:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <bc1c4283-9039-47d2-b5f1-689cbc7e411e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403569 |
On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 9:32:53 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote: > > That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller from > the far future has come here is that there is no far future from which > to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become extinct due to > natural disaster, etc. > > Sylvia. Or maybe someone invents time travel and that messes up some other guy's life. So this other guy goes back and kills the someone that was about to invent time travel.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 20:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno6g6o4.hr4.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #403620 |
Gary Harnagel wrote: > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller from > > the far future has come here is that there is no far future from which > > to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become extinct due to > > natural disaster, etc. > > Or maybe someone invents time travel and that messes up some other guy's > life. So this other guy goes back and kills the someone that was about > to invent time travel. *sigh* Stop that mindless babble, please! Time travel is impoossible. EOS,
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 13:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a7929c7a-1a37-4420-89c5-95398c7c564d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403622 |
On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 1:54:35 PM UTC-7, Ned Latham wrote: > Gary Harnagel wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > > > That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller from > > > the far future has come here is that there is no far future from which > > > to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become extinct due to > > > natural disaster, etc. > > > > Or maybe someone invents time travel and that messes up some other guy's > > life. So this other guy goes back and kills the someone that was about > > to invent time travel. > > *sigh* > > Stop that mindless babble, please! YOU should talk! :-)) > Time travel is impoossible. EOS, Ah, but time travel into the future happens all the time.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 00:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno6gjbg.vh2.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #403626 |
Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote: > , Ned Latham wrote: > > Gary Harnagel wrote: > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > > > > > That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller from > > > > the far future has come here is that there is no far future from which > > > > to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become extinct due to > > > > natural disaster, etc. > > > > > > Or maybe someone invents time travel and that messes up some other guy's > > > life. So this other guy goes back and kills the someone that was about > > > to invent time travel. > > > > *sigh* > > > > Stop that mindless babble, please! > > YOU should talk! :-)) I do. You should try it some time. > > Time travel is impoossible. EOS, > > Ah, but time travel into the future happens all the time. Bullshit.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 19:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c89ab0e2-9264-4d28-bd82-002f92dc81f4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403639 |
On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 5:29:43 PM UTC-7, Nutjob Latherspewen wrote: > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote: > > > > > Stop that mindless babble, please! > > > > YOU should talk! :-)) > > I do. You should try it some time. You should try shutting up sometime. “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” -- Abraham Lincoln > > > Time travel is impoossible. EOS, > > > > Ah, but time travel into the future happens all the time. > > Bullshit. Sure it does. One second per second. Another way is to go into a deep gravitational field. Orbiting a black hole at 1.5 times the radius of its event horizon gets you infinite time per second.
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 20:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <66ceea1d-0d55-4d76-a8f7-44f24b3f1168@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403661 |
> > > Time travel is impoossible. EOS, > > > > Ah, but time travel into the future happens all the time. > > Bullshit. Sure it does. One second per second. Another way is to go into a deep gravitational field. Orbiting a black hole at 1.5 times the radius of its event horizon gets you infinite time per second. 1.5 hmm? 1 / ((1 - (1.5 / (((5^0.5) + 1) / 2))) / 10) = 137.082039325
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 06:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f148fe39-c8b8-4533-934a-98276ff58c4b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403663 |
On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 9:10:43 PM UTC-7, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > > > > > > Time travel is impoossible. EOS, > > > > > > > > Ah, but time travel into the future happens all the time. > > > > > > Bullshit. > > > > Sure it does. One second per second. Another way is to go into a deep > > gravitational field. Orbiting a black hole at 1.5 times the radius of > > its event horizon gets you infinite time per second. > > 1.5 hmm? > > 1 / ((1 - (1.5 / (((5^0.5) + 1) / 2))) / 10) = > 137.082039325 dtau^2 = (1 - rs/r)*dt^2 - r^2*dphi^2/c^2 rs = 2*G*M/c^2 (dtau/dt)^2 = (1 - rs/r) - r^2*dphi^2/dt^2/c^2 = 1 - rs/r - v^2/c^2 v^2/r = G*M/r^2, v^2 = G*M/r = rs*c^2/2/r (dtau/dt)^2 = 1 - rs/r - 0.5*rs/r = 1 - 1.5*rs/r
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 06:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <47b6b6d8-00b3-4316-937e-909952618740@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403689 |
Gary Harnagel wrote: dtau^2 = (1 - rs/r)*dt^2 - r^2*dphi^2/c^2 rs = 2*G*M/c^2 (dtau/dt)^2 = (1 - rs/r) - r^2*dphi^2/dt^2/c^2 = 1 - rs/r - v^2/c^2 v^2/r = G*M/r^2, v^2 = G*M/r = rs*c^2/2/r (dtau/dt)^2 = 1 - rs/r - 0.5*rs/r = 1 - 1.5*rs/r ((((1.5^0.5) + 1)^2) / 5) * ((1 / (7^2*2)) + 1) = 0.99999894803 Maybe the universe Cheats ?
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 11:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <72019c98-76f6-467f-a176-51b0279445af@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403693 |
On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 7:55:34 AM UTC-7, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > > Gary Harnagel wrote: > > > > dtau^2 = (1 - rs/r)*dt^2 - r^2*dphi^2/c^2 > > > > rs = 2*G*M/c^2 > > > > (dtau/dt)^2 = (1 - rs/r) - r^2*dphi^2/dt^2/c^2 = 1 - rs/r - v^2/c^2 > > > > v^2/r = G*M/r^2, v^2 = G*M/r = rs*c^2/2/r > > > > (dtau/dt)^2 = 1 - rs/r - 0.5*rs/r = 1 - 1.5*rs/r > > > > ((((1.5^0.5) + 1)^2) / 5) * ((1 / (7^2*2)) + 1) = 0.99999894803 Non sequitur. > Maybe the universe Cheats ? Or maybe YOU do.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 06:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno6h8lo.9gn.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #403661 |
Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote: > Nutjob Latherspewen wrote: Aw. Wassa madder, Gawy? You can't think beyond the mundane? (Why am I not surprised?) > > Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote: > > > Ned Lat5ham wrote: > > > > > > > Stop that mindless babble, please! > > > > > > YOU should talk! :-)) > > > > I do. You should try it some time. > > You should try shutting up sometime. Even I can't contest your moronic babble with silence, Gawy. > "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and > remove all doubt." -- Abraham Lincoln Geez, Gawy. When are you going to have a thought of your own? > > > > Time travel is impoossible. EOS, > > > > > > Ah, but time travel into the future happens all the time. > > > > Bullshit. > > Sure it does. One second per second. That's not travel, fuckwit. ----snip----
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 06:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <778d777e-3cac-410f-9234-f60ff270d876@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403667 |
On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 11:33:34 PM UTC-7, Nutjob Lathandplaster wrote: > > [Stupid troll nonsense] Trolls are abysmally-stupid people who delusionally believe that their thoughts (if they can even be called thought} are more than steaming cow plop.
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| From | Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 14:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o4b5a1$a10$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #403690 |
Gary Harnagel wrote: > On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 11:33:34 PM UTC-7, Nutjob > Lathandplaster wrote: >> >> [Stupid troll nonsense] > > Trolls are abysmally-stupid people who delusionally believe that their > thoughts (if they can even be called thought} are more than steaming cow > plop. No offence, but saying that time travel into the future happens all the time, as you do, is unbelievable stupid. You relativists believers cannot even agree on what is meant by a time travel. Ask yourself, are you going to travel thereover as correspondingly old (by accumulation of clock- seconds), OR, are you expecting to stay young, then come back even younger than your twins. None of you can answer. Conform my Divergent Matter Model, time travel is nonsense. Cannot happen, never happened and will never happen. The proof for this is outthere in the field. Time travel in my DMM is a wrong question.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 16:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno6icd5.oar.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #403690 |
Gawy Fuck Knuckle wrote: ----snip---- > Trolls are abysmally-stupid people who delusionally believe that their > thoughts (if they can even be called thought} are more than steaming > cow plop. Well said, Gawy. Now all you have to do is learn to recognise yourself.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 11:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c9f5e3e0-c8d0-4fd1-b290-0028a2490bf3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403699 |
On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 9:43:23 AM UTC-7, Ned Latham wrote: snip Your behavior strongly refutes the concept of evolution and strongly supports devolution.
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