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Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible

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The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:586EA0AD.16BE@ix.netcom.com: 

> The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> >
>> > On 4/01/2017 4:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > Sylvia Else wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> On 3/01/2017 5:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On 2/01/2017 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>> The Earth has been hit by large objects in the past,
>> > >>>>>> causing mass extinctions.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Oh oh, here comes the "What happen to the dinosaurs?"
>> > >>>>> theories...i thought you had more intelligence thab
>> > >>>>> that...i guess I over estimated you...you are a girl. 
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that such a
>> > >>>>>> thing could happen again, and be severe enough to wipe
>> > >>>>>> out the human race. 
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> every single person, right?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Why not?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> You never heard of...survive?
>> > >>
>> > >> In an episode of "Dinosaurs" a school teacher explained
>> > >> that there will always be more of an endangered animal
>> > >> species, because that's what "more" means.
>> > >>
>> > >> Is that your manner of thinking here?
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Your logic says there are no time travlers because the
>> > >>> comet killed them.
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> No it's doesn't, and I'm having a hard time understanding
>> > >> why you've got this so muddled.
>> > >>
>> > >> The point at issue is not whether there are no time
>> > >> travellers for this reason, nor even whether time travel
>> > >> is possible. The focus is on whether your purported proof
>> > >> of the absence of time travel is valid. 
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm offering alternative scenarios that explain the
>> > >> absence of time travellers even if time travel is
>> > >> possible. These possible, even if unlikely, scenarios
>> > >> invalidate your proof which depends on the impossibility
>> > >> of time travel being the only possible explanation for the 
>> > >> absence of time travellers.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sylvia.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Maybe your problem is...with the words..."not possible",
>> > > and you use...'it is possible'. 
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Your "alternative scenarios" are based on...probability.
>> > > And, "probability" is a math term, and math is not science. 
>> > >
>> > > Math is not reality.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not interested in...probabilities.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I think you just don't want to concede that your proof
>> > doesn't work. 
>> >
>> > Sylvia.
>> 
>> Let me explain why a comet will never wipe out
>> cilivatization... 
>> 
>>  Probability is the possibility that an event will occur, as
>>  expressed by the ratio of the number of actual occurrences to
>>  the total number of possible occurrences. 
>> 
>> Since a comet has never wiped out civilization on earth, there
>> is no actual occurrence by ratio, no two amounts, or even one
>> amount. 
>> 
>> It is "an improbable event". A comet will never wipe out
>> civilatization because it is impossible. 
>> 
>> Therefore, any time travelers in the future would be here now
>> buying lottery tickets and betting at the racetrack. 
>> 
>> Time Travel Is Not Possible and it's Impossible.
>> 
>> That is not how the world and the universe works.
>> 
>> Nature is not going to go to all this trouble and then wipe out
>> civilazation with a comet. It's not in the works.. 
> 
> 
> 
> okay, maybe the time traveler killing his grandfather is a
> little too much.. 
> 
> how about the time traveler goes back a day and buys a lottery
> ticket that pays 500 million dollars, goes back to the future
> and deposits the money, goes back again, plays the same numbers,
> goes back and deposits another 500 million,  goes back again,
> plays the same numbers, goes back and deposits another 500
> million, 
> 
> 
> i'm having trouble figuring out where is all this money coming
> from... are the serial numbers the same? are the lottery
> officals wondering why are there all these paid checks made out
> to the same person shows paid over billion dollars but only 500
> million paid out.. 
> 
> something is wrong with your 'possible time travel senerios'.
> 
> Nature doesn't work this way.

Neither do lotteries, since the payout is divided amongst all the 
winning tickest.

How fucking pathetic do you have to be to not understand that?

Retard.

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    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:21 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 15:32 +1100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 23:05 -0800
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            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 10:51 -0800
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:48 -0800
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:54 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-04 16:45 +1100
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:18 +1100
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 13:29 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:13 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-07 11:57 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:34 +1100
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                Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:12 -0500
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 22:40 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 00:37 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:18 -0700
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2017-02-04 10:12 -0500
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2017-02-06 13:27 +0000
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:44 -0700
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-31 12:56 -0500
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-01 15:07 +0000
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:50 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:52 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:21 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-01 16:00 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-01-01 23:20 -0700
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 19:15 -0500
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:56 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:29 -0800
          Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 14:04 -0500
            Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 11:19 -0700
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:11 +0000
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-13 22:37 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 22:41 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:00 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 15:25 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-14 10:16 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:28 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:44 -0800
      Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 20:45 -0500

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