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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Can We Believe in Modern Physics Theories? |
| Date | 2017-02-14 06:43 -0600 |
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On 2/13/2017 11:18 AM, SEKI wrote: > On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 1:56:08 AM UTC+9, tjrob137 wrote: >> On 2/13/17 2/13/17 - 1:49 AM, SEKI wrote: >>> Anyway, quantum theories are constructed as theories of waves, and >>> particles appear only in interpretations. >> >> Neither "particle" nor "wave" accurately captures the concepts of quantum field >> theory. All your blather cannot change that, and your attempts to apply those >> labels to the theory are doomed. > > Then, you agree that the assumption that there exist extremely small > elementary particles (regardless of whether point-like or string) in reality > is false. Right? > The understanding of "elementary particles" is not as classical particles but as quantum fields. In fact, the use of the term "elementary particles" is a bit of an anachronism and the community would do well to just call them "elementary quantum fields" consistently, IMO. But language moves slowly sometimes. "Extremely small" has no real concrete meaning in modern physics with regard to these fields. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Re: Can We Believe in Modern Physics Theories? SEKI <seki.hajime01@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 09:51 -0800
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Re: Can We Believe in Modern Physics Theories? SEKI <seki.hajime01@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 00:23 -0800
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