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Re: Detecting time dilation

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From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
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Subject	Re: Detecting time dilation
Date	Fri, 30 Dec 2016 00:29:33 +0000 (UTC)
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 10:04:38 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:

>> >Moron a second of proper time at the GPS location does not correspond to a
>> >second of proper time  on the ground.

>> Stupid Ken, if you say something like that, it must mean that you don't
>> even know what "proper time" is. =20

>Hey moron....it is you who don't know what proper time is.

Stupid Ken, I am using the definition used by science. If you disagree, it 
is because you are wrong.

>A proper second on an "A" clock is a second at the location of that clock 
>and a proper second on a "B" clock is a second at the location of that 
>clock. The relationship between the A clock and B clock according to SR 
>and LET math are as follows:

>"A" predicts

Stupid Ken, nobody cares what any fortune teller predicts. What matters is
what A and B actually measure.

> that "B's" proper second is worth: (gamma proper second on his "B" clock).

But B's clock does not measure proper time for A, since B's clock is not
co-moving with A.

Plus your lack of knowledge of what proper time is is evident here, since
it is meaningless for A to talk about B's proper second.

>"B" predicts

Again, we care what B measures, not if B is a good fortune teller.

> that "A's" proper second is worth: (gamma proper second on his "B" clock).

A's clock does not measure proper time for B, since A's clock is not
co-moving with B.

>BTW the above SR and LET predictions are not completely fit observations.

Wrong, Stupid Ken.  No prediction of SR has ever been contradicted, in
SR's realm of applicibility.  Never.

> In real life, either A's prediction is wrong or B's prediction is wrong

No, Stupid Ken.  What A and B measure (not predict) are not the same 
thing.  In one case, two measurements from Clock A1 are compared to
Clocks B1 and B2.  In the other case, two measurements from clock B1 are
compared to Clocks A1 and A2.

>> So when are you going to actually learn about SR/GR for once?

We're waiting.....

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  Re: Detecting time dilation Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 02:05 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 02:52 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-22 05:58 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:34 -0600
        Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 10:10 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-24 06:44 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-24 06:57 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-25 05:55 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-25 07:43 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-26 11:08 -0800
          utter cretin Jay Moseley insists "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-26 14:34 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-25 19:46 -0600
        Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 03:45 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 04:22 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 04:51 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 05:19 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 05:53 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 06:26 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 16:06 +0000
        Re: Detecting time dilation jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-26 11:12 -0800
  Re: Detecting time dilation Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 13:42 -0800
  Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-25 11:00 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-25 13:34 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-25 13:57 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-26 08:16 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 16:53 +0000
          Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-26 19:21 +0000
            Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 21:49 +0000
              Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-27 03:29 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 23:34 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-27 20:33 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-30 01:24 +0000
          Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 11:05 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-27 20:43 +0000
            Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 13:30 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 10:00 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 18:06 +0000
          Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 11:48 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-26 13:28 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 14:20 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 15:33 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 23:29 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-27 04:36 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 05:27 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-27 07:27 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-27 06:28 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-27 07:04 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-27 15:37 +0000
              Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 08:45 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-27 18:17 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 10:25 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-28 09:20 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-29 03:04 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 23:19 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-29 08:12 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-30 00:29 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-30 00:43 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-30 01:28 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-29 23:10 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-30 06:36 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-31 21:39 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-31 14:44 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 14:02 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-03 13:30 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 06:13 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 09:36 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 07:43 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 13:07 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:21 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 14:12 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:18 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 06:46 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:09 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:11 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 12:48 -0800
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                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 13:11 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:29 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 14:07 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:17 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 06:28 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:26 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:07 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-04 13:46 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:28 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-05 09:46 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:00 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 07:02 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:12 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 07:37 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 15:52 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:13 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 18:21 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:39 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-07 13:26 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-08 06:48 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 12:56 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-09 12:21 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-09 23:33 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-10 10:02 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:54 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-11 09:01 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-12 05:27 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:27 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-12 11:24 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:08 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-13 12:56 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 15:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-14 04:57 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-14 05:43 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:24 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-15 06:15 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 13:54 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-15 12:31 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Reid Schaffner <dnfoonio@acdnfni.info> - 2017-01-15 20:36 +0000
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                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-16 06:59 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:50 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-18 18:05 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-15 22:30 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-15 07:36 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-12 16:38 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-12 08:50 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-12 11:26 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-13 03:09 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-12 23:59 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-13 05:37 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-14 07:27 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-14 01:59 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-14 05:20 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-14 19:47 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-15 06:29 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-16 00:10 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-16 06:49 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:46 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-18 17:58 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:09 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:45 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 06:45 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 06:38 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 10:39 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-17 09:30 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-11 16:23 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-09 23:31 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-06 10:32 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 18:41 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 11:51 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-06 16:37 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 18:23 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-07 21:27 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-08 06:44 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-08 16:08 +0000
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            Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 11:33 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 12:15 -0800
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              Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 12:29 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-27 09:23 -0600
          Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 07:54 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:22 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 09:33 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 10:36 -0800
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                Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 14:58 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-28 08:13 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 08:33 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 10:27 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-28 13:29 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 13:35 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-28 17:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-29 00:39 +0100
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                Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 15:42 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-29 07:50 -0800
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                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 06:10 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 09:39 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 07:54 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:36 -0600
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                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:24 -0600
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                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 07:00 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:11 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:36 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 23:13 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-27 13:48 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-03 13:34 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 12:55 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 13:37 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 15:09 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 10:46 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 11:20 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 12:08 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 12:43 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-26 08:53 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 17:25 +0000
      Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 09:56 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-26 19:34 +0000
        Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 14:23 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-26 13:40 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-28 14:31 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-05 06:16 -0800

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