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Re: Detecting time dilation

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Detecting time dilation
Date	2016-12-31 21:39 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:29:37 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
>> 
>> >On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 10:04:38 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> 
>> >> >Moron a second of proper time at the GPS location does not correspond to a
>> >> >second of proper time  on the ground.
>> 
>> >> Stupid Ken, if you say something like that, it must mean that you don't
>> >> even know what "proper time" is. =20
>> 
>> >Hey moron....it is you who don't know what proper time is.
>> 
>> Stupid Ken, I am using the definition used by science. If you disagree, it 
>> is because you are wrong.

>Hey moron, then why did you disagreed that a proper second on any clock 
>is when the clock shows 9,192,631,770 periods of Cs 133 radiation at its 
>rest frame? 

Stupid Ken, proper time is the time on a clock co-moving with the 
observer.  The second is DEFINED as 9,192,631,770 periods of Cs 133 
radiation on a local Cs clock used as a proper clock.

>> >A proper second on an "A" clock is a second at the location of that clock 
>> >and a proper second on a "B" clock is a second at the location of that 
>> >clock. The relationship between the A clock and B clock according to SR 
>> >and LET math are as follows:
>> 
>> >"A" predicts
>>  
>> Stupid Ken, nobody cares what any fortune teller predicts. What matters is
>> what A and B actually measure.

>Hey moron, no such measurement ever been performed.....in fact it is 
>impossible to do so.

Stupid Ken, just because you don't know how to perform such measurements
doesn't mean it's impossible.  The fact remains that it's what A and B
actually measure, not whether A or B are good fortune tellers.

>> > that "B's" proper second is worth: (gamma proper second on his "B" clock).
>> 
>> But B's clock does not measure proper time for A, since B's clock is not
>> co-moving with A.

>Hey moron, B does not measure proper time for A.....he (B) predicts 
>(sing SR or LET math) the rate of A accumulating proper clock seconds at 
>A's rest frame. Gee you are so fucking stupid.

No, Stupid Ken.  B measures A's clock.  Again, just because you are too
stupid to understand how to perform such measurements doesn't mean it is
impossible.

>> Plus your lack of knowledge of what proper time is is evident here, since
>> it is meaningless for A to talk about B's proper second.

>ROTFLOL.....pot, kettle, black.

No, Stupid Ken. You have a bad habit of making up your own definitions
for words and phrases used by physicists.

>> >"B" predicts
>> 
>> Again, we care what B measures, not if B is a good fortune teller.

>Hey moron B does not measure.....B predicts using the LT.

No, Stupid Ken, as mentioned over and over again to you, B measures.

>> > that "A's" proper second is worth: (gamma proper second on his "B" clock).
>> 
>> A's clock does not measure proper time for B, since A's clock is not
>> co-moving with B.

>Hey moron.....A predicts the rate of B accumulating proper seconds using 
>the SR math. 

Once again, you make your ignorance obvious to all.

>> >BTW the above SR and LET predictions are not completely fit observations.
>> 
>> Wrong, Stupid Ken.  No prediction of SR has ever been contradicted, in
>> SR's realm of applicibility.  Never.

>Hey moron when comparing any two clocks in relative motion the 
>possibilities exist are as follows:

>1. A accumulating proper clock seconds at a faster rate than B 
accumulating proper clock seconds.
>2. B  accumulating proper clock seconds at a faster rate than A 
accumulating proper clock seconds.
>3. A and B accumulating proper clock seconds at the rate rate.

No, Stupid Ken.  A's and B's proper time clocks accumulate time at the
normal rate.  It is just that each will measure the other's clock as
running slow, because to each of them, the other's clock is not a proper
clock. And since A and B are measuring different things when they measure
each other's clocks, it is not a contradiction that each sees the other's
clock as being slow.

>> >> So when are you going to actually learn about SR/GR for once?
>> 
>> We're waiting.....
>
We're still waiting.....

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  Re: Detecting time dilation Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 02:05 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 02:52 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-22 05:58 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:34 -0600
        Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 10:10 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-24 06:44 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-24 06:57 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-25 05:55 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-25 07:43 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-26 11:08 -0800
          utter cretin Jay Moseley insists "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-26 14:34 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-25 19:46 -0600
        Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 03:45 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 04:22 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 04:51 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 05:19 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 05:53 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-26 06:26 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 16:06 +0000
        Re: Detecting time dilation jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-12-26 11:12 -0800
  Re: Detecting time dilation Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 13:42 -0800
  Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-25 11:00 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-25 13:34 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-25 13:57 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-26 08:16 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 16:53 +0000
          Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-26 19:21 +0000
            Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 21:49 +0000
              Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-27 03:29 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 23:34 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-27 20:33 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-30 01:24 +0000
          Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 11:05 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-27 20:43 +0000
            Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 13:30 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 10:00 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 18:06 +0000
          Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 11:48 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-26 13:28 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 14:20 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 15:33 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 23:29 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-27 04:36 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 05:27 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-27 07:27 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-27 06:28 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-27 07:04 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-27 15:37 +0000
              Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 08:45 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-27 18:17 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 10:25 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-28 09:20 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-29 03:04 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 23:19 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-29 08:12 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-30 00:29 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-30 00:43 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-30 01:28 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-29 23:10 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-30 06:36 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-31 21:39 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-31 14:44 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 14:02 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-03 13:30 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 06:13 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 09:36 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 07:43 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 13:07 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:21 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 14:12 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:18 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 06:46 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:09 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:11 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 12:48 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:00 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 13:11 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:29 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 14:07 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:17 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 06:28 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:26 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:07 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-04 13:46 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:28 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-05 09:46 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:00 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 07:02 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:12 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 07:37 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 15:52 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:13 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 18:21 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:39 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-07 13:26 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-08 06:48 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 12:56 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-09 12:21 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-09 23:33 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-10 10:02 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:54 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-11 09:01 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:35 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-12 05:27 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:27 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-12 11:24 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 14:08 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-13 12:56 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 15:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-14 04:57 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-14 05:43 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:24 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-15 06:15 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 13:54 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-15 12:31 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Reid Schaffner <dnfoonio@acdnfni.info> - 2017-01-15 20:36 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 17:11 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-16 06:59 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:50 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-18 18:05 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-15 22:30 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-15 07:36 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-12 16:38 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-12 08:50 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-12 11:26 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-13 03:09 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-12 23:59 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-13 05:37 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-14 07:27 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-14 01:59 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-14 05:20 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-14 19:47 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-15 06:29 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-16 00:10 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-16 06:49 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 09:46 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-18 17:58 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:09 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:45 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 06:45 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-17 06:38 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 10:39 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-17 09:30 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-11 16:23 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-09 23:31 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-06 10:32 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Aubrey Primmer <myr@ejmr.info> - 2017-01-06 18:41 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-06 11:51 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-06 16:37 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 18:23 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-07 21:27 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-08 06:44 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-08 16:08 +0000
          Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 11:24 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 11:33 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 12:15 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 12:11 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 12:29 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-27 09:23 -0600
          Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 07:54 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:22 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 09:33 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 10:36 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 13:19 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 14:58 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-28 08:13 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 08:33 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 10:27 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-28 13:29 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 13:35 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-28 17:33 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-29 00:39 +0100
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                Re: Detecting time dilation RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-05 09:48 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-01-05 21:28 +0100
                Re: Detecting time dilation Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-28 17:27 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-28 15:42 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-29 07:50 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 13:58 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 06:10 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 09:39 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 07:54 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:36 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 13:02 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:05 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 13:13 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:30 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-04 14:14 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 16:24 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-05 06:30 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 10:11 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-06 07:00 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:11 -0600
                Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-05 17:36 +0000
                Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-28 23:13 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-27 13:48 -0800
                Re: Detecting time dilation "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-01-03 13:34 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 12:55 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-27 13:37 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 15:09 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 10:46 -0800
          Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 11:20 -0800
            Re: Detecting time dilation bartekltg@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 12:08 -0800
              Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 12:43 -0800
    Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-26 08:53 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Demetrice Barren <teercere@tmerunin.tme> - 2016-12-26 17:25 +0000
      Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 09:56 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-26 19:34 +0000
        Re: Detecting time dilation mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-26 14:23 -0800
      Re: Detecting time dilation Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-26 13:40 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-28 14:31 -0800
        Re: Detecting time dilation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-01-05 06:16 -0800

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