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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics |
| Date | 2018-04-26 20:12 +0200 |
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Am 23.04.2018 um 17:47 schrieb Tom Roberts: > On 4/22/18 10:40 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am 22.04.2018 um 02:43 schrieb Tom Roberts: >>> In modern physics we don't "assign properties to space" (or to points). >>> Instead we model the world as a fiber bundle, with a Lorentzian base >>> manifold. The fibers, of course, are the quantum fields of the theory. >> >> Who is 'we'?? > > Modern physicists. That is, those that use QFT. > >> And why don't you allow points to have features? > > Because the points of a manifold have no features (other than existence > and topological relationships to adjacent points). Physical features > live in the fibers, not the points of the base manifold. > >> The term 'spacetime' is meant in way like Herman Minkowski used it and >> is regarded as physical entity. > > Not in modern physics, where spacetime is part of the MODEL, not the world. > Well, it was actually MY idea, that I try to promote. I call it 'structured spacetime'. The text I have written circles around the question: how could you connect GR to QM? The idea is, that both theories have their merits and are most likely correct. But how to connect both into a single framework????? My approach was this: the both theories are like 'cities' in a rough terrain, which have a hidden connection, that is unknown. To find this connection I had estimated the 'midpoint' and searched for similarities between relativity and quantum mechanics in the 'vicinity' (of that assumed 'midpoint'). In my 'dragnet' I had found a certain formula for quaternions, which represent rotations. (Later I have switched to biquaternions (aka 'complex-four-vectors) and 'Pauli algebra'.) Then I turned around and tried to model various phenomena with that assumption. It did actually work. So I wrote a longish text about it. (That text you find here: https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6 ) Certainly a few things could be made better, but actually I think, the concept itself is quite good. >> [... further nonsense ignored] > We'll see, which concept will be regarded as nonsense. TH
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The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-13 15:03 -0400
The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:08 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:09 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:24 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 13:15 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 13:19 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-13 19:21 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 16:24 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 14:06 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:09 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 14:19 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-21 16:56 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-21 13:43 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-21 11:25 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-21 19:43 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-22 17:40 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-22 09:07 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-23 10:47 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-26 20:12 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 12:57 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-26 15:05 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Jim Emile <leuu@wwjw.ce> - 2018-04-27 20:42 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 13:57 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:08 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 16:26 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-28 11:00 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-13 19:22 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-13 19:24 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Libor P Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-14 02:44 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 10:20 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Libor P Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-04-14 13:32 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 13:53 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 14:14 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 14:10 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:26 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:30 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:46 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 11:55 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 12:08 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-04-14 11:59 +1000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 19:02 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 20:24 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 22:51 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 17:26 -0700
The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 21:17 -0700
The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 21:21 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-14 21:00 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 12:15 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-14 15:28 -0400
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 12:50 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 13:05 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-14 22:07 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 06:14 +0100
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-16 13:50 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-16 19:31 +0000
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 12:48 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-16 21:10 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 21:30 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-16 21:56 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-18 10:33 -0500
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-18 21:10 +0200
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-20 00:14 -0700
Re: The #1 DUMBEST Belief in Physics paul jark <jarkpaulsmith@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 06:21 -0700
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