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Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron?
Date 2016-12-19 02:06 +0100
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Am 18.12.2016 14:00, schrieb David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller:

>
> Hello Mr Heger
>
> I believe your "structured space model " is almost completely Accurate, but "incomplete "
>
> You essentially already have Space Separated from time in your Model.
>
> All you have to do is "Put a Multiplier of 49.97 on the Time axis and INVERT TIME back over the top of Space "
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/QkSwCsANYnS2E2GD9
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> https://goo.gl/photos/ZnnHeTfjFdTgugZcA
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> Everything about your model looks accurate... Just Invert The Time Axis then apply a Scalar of 49.97 to the time axis

'Invert the axis of time' means something like 'pointing in the other 
direction'?

Well, I do in fact agree. But convention for spacetime diagrams is the 
orientation of the axis of time pointing up.

But 'in real' I would like to draw the timeline pointing down. You could 
somehow imagine, that time would actually drop down and vanishes inside 
the Earth.

I do not apply numerical values, since so far I did no calculations at all.

This is because I tried to follow a certain strategy. This says, you 
discuss questions of the type 'what' prior to questions of the type 'how 
much'.

So I try to derive the appropriate mathematical relations from the 
abstract concepts and then put in numerical values into relations, that 
I regard as valid.

Your approach is somehow the opposite way, since you start with values 
and try to show, there is significance, if these numbers are computed in 
certain ways.

This is also a possibility, supposed that nature does behave in fact 
mathematical. This apparently is the case, so it is possible to juggle 
with numbers, until something fits.

Then the used equation must match some sort of natural phenomenon.

For me it is difficult to understand your concepts, since I don't use 
numbers at all. I don't even use equations, but a method to transfer 
mathematical problems into equivalent geometrical forms, which I can draw.

But thanks anyhow and I try to make use of your hints.



TH

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  Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-14 18:52 +0000
    Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-14 18:58 +0000
  Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-14 14:19 -0800
  Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-15 07:27 +0100
    Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-12-16 17:16 -0800
      Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-18 07:21 +0100
        Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 05:00 -0800
          Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 05:39 -0800
          Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-19 02:06 +0100
            Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 18:15 -0800
  Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-16 13:43 -0800
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