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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? |
| Date | 2016-12-15 07:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <eberefFs25bU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <699093f4-eedb-4032-8442-3eb662653dea@googlegroups.com> |
Am 14.12.2016 18:14, schrieb Pentcho Valev: > Quantum gravity is an oxymoron - insane people try to combine Newton's absolute time and Einstein's relative time, the absurd consequence of Einstein's 1905 false constant-speed-of-light postulate: > > https://www.quantamagazine.org/20161201-quantum-gravitys-time-problem/ > "The effort to unify quantum mechanics and general relativity means reconciling totally different notions of time. In quantum mechanics, time is universal and absolute; its steady ticks dictate the evolving entanglements between particles. But in general relativity (Albert Einstein's theory of gravity), time is relative and dynamical, a dimension that's inextricably interwoven with directions X, Y and Z into a four-dimensional "space-time" fabric." > > https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/research/conferences/convergence/roundtable-discussion-questions/what-are-lessons-quantum > Perimeter Institute: "Quantum mechanics has one thing, time, which is absolute. But general relativity tells us that space and time are both dynamical so there is a big contradiction there. So the question is, can quantum gravity be formulated in a context where quantum mechanics still has absolute time?" What is wrong with QM is the so called standard model of QM, because it is about 'things' (particles). If things exist in time, they have to vanish, if time vanishes. This sounds slightly counter-intuitive, but does in fact make sense. Since it's a little tricky, I wrote this 'book' (actually a google.doc presentation): https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6 TH
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Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-14 09:14 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-14 18:52 +0000
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-14 18:58 +0000
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-14 14:19 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-15 07:27 +0100
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-12-16 17:16 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-18 07:21 +0100
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 05:00 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 05:39 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-19 02:06 +0100
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 18:15 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-16 13:43 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-17 22:37 -0800
Re: Is Quantum Gravity an Oxymoron? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-20 10:24 -0800
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