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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity |
| Date | 2016-12-01 12:13 +1100 |
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On 29/11/2016 7:41 PM, worlov@yandex.ru wrote: > Am Dienstag, 29. November 2016 02:44:10 UTC+1 schrieb Sylvia Else: >> >> The ions have to allow for the changing relative position of the >> aircraft. If the ion were actually looking at the aircraft, and were >> intelligent, it would realise that it has to make allowance for the >> changing time for the light from the aircraft to reach the ion's eyes >> (we'll assume the ion has eyes as well). The ion would conclude that >> time for the aircraft is going more slowly, and that the apparent higher >> speed is because of the change in the light path length. > > No matter how the ions are intelligent, they'll just see the plane fly by (relativistic muons have a half-life of 2.2 microseconds). The slower the time in the reference system of the ions, all the faster the aircraft flies. You can even paint the plane as a zebra. Then intelligent ions can count the strips. They will count times gamma more strips. This happens locally, we do not need to consider the speed of light during the transmission of information. > > Ions and aircraft fly perpendicular to each other, so no length contraction takes place from the perspective of the others. Nevertheless, the ions will count more strips. Accordingly, they will measure an unbelievable speed of the aircraft: V = V0*gamma (gamma -> oo)... because the time stretching in the reference system of the ions is real! > You're being mislead by thinking that you can somehow sit outside this and watch it happening. In the frame of the ions, the aircraft is travelling almost directly towards them at 2/3 the speed of light. Sylvia.
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Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-27 05:46 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-27 23:30 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-29 08:34 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-27 23:08 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-11-28 10:12 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-28 04:23 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-30 20:29 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-01 04:00 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 09:38 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-01 11:53 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:58 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-01 22:46 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-02 04:31 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-04 22:59 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 23:16 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-05 10:00 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-04 23:18 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:48 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-03 02:49 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-02 14:46 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:50 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-03 10:07 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-03 20:22 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-03 11:32 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-03 21:17 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-04 01:38 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 16:00 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-05 23:43 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 18:01 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-09 02:48 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 16:32 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 03:09 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-15 03:36 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 03:58 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 04:24 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-03 12:07 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-03 21:44 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 02:20 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-04 18:48 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 10:18 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 10:34 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-04 20:07 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 11:29 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 11:42 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 11:49 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 11:46 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-04 21:09 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Wilda Bolander <WdaaddoiBleld@WdaaddoiBleld.Wda> - 2016-12-04 20:23 +0000
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-05 15:13 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Chantell Dillingham <lntliiDtilnigDlnii@lntliiDtilnigDlnii.lnt> - 2016-12-05 14:17 +0000
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-06 13:04 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 12:25 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 12:27 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-04 13:06 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 21:26 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-04 23:29 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 23:35 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-05 10:04 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-04 23:16 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-11-28 19:09 +1100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-28 01:13 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-11-29 12:44 +1100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-29 00:41 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-29 03:05 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-01 12:13 +1100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-05 15:00 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-05 07:35 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-05 10:18 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-05 10:05 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 12:14 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-05 13:06 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 15:18 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 05:50 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 10:27 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 12:14 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 14:29 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 16:37 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-06 19:37 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-08 11:11 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-08 13:29 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 15:28 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 05:57 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Chantell Dillingham <intlii@dtilnignii.org> - 2016-12-05 18:19 +0000
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-05 23:33 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-06 00:00 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-07 18:54 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-07 17:06 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-08 03:07 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-08 09:10 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-09 02:51 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 13:39 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-10 00:54 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 00:22 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-12 02:05 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 17:17 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 00:22 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-09 03:34 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-12 12:42 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 00:16 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-16 08:04 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-19 19:03 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Darron Borton <ororrt@orrtnorr.info> - 2016-12-20 03:29 +0000
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-20 00:56 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-22 10:48 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 10:52 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 14:22 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 23:10 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 07:06 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-23 01:35 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 08:59 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-23 10:17 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 05:19 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:24 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 09:39 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-24 09:41 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-24 07:50 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-25 04:06 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-13 06:31 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 11:18 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-14 10:37 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 08:55 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-14 12:53 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 10:55 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 09:50 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 10:13 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 13:20 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 14:04 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 00:35 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-16 05:50 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 06:10 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-16 07:13 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 07:21 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-15 10:32 -0800
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Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 20:02 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-16 06:29 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-13 06:54 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-08 08:11 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-09 02:43 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 13:37 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-10 00:56 -0800
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Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-06 14:58 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-06 06:02 -0800
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Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-07 11:06 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-07 04:29 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-08 15:45 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-08 11:12 -0800
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Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-07 13:47 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Chantell Dillingham <intlii@dtilnignii.org> - 2016-12-07 13:19 +0000
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-08 15:41 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-09 23:48 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-11 02:12 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-11 05:37 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-11 09:39 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-11 22:31 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-11 23:16 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-12 03:04 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-12 14:29 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-12 07:52 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-13 19:26 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 10:57 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-13 22:53 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 23:56 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-14 10:23 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-14 01:49 -0800
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-12 18:37 +0100
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-30 20:08 -0600
Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 19:18 -0800
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