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Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity
Date 2016-11-28 19:09 +1100
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On 28/11/2016 12:24 AM, worlov@yandex.ru wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Abstract: http://www.walter-orlov.wg.am/dilation.ppt
>
> Two years ago was reported about allegedly the best confirmation of
> the special relativity. For example:
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/einsteins-time-dilation-prediction-verified/
>
>  This is not true, the real time stretching confirms above all the
> ether theory.
>
> The relativistic time dilation is determined by twinsparadoxone. The
> cunning twin must always return, so that his younger appearance can
> be confirmed. Otherwise according to special relativity from the
> point of view of each twin will be young the other twin. But in the
> experiments the return of cunning twin is not required, because by
> fast objects the time is already slower, without return!

As usual, a person who comes up with such stuff is so muddled in their 
thinking that it's difficult to know how to explain where they've gone 
wrong.

The experiment verifies that time for the lithium ions is dilated in the 
frame of the experimenter. The experiment did not determine how things 
look in the frame of the lithium ions. SR says that time for the 
experimenter is dilated in the frame of the ions. Your "real time 
stretching" notion would require some other outcome, but since the 
experiment didn't examine that, it has nothing to say about your notion, 
and in particular, does not support it.

There, I tried my best.

Sylvia.

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The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-27 05:24 -0800
  Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-27 05:46 -0800
    Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-27 23:30 -0800
      Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-29 08:34 -0800
  Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-27 23:08 -0800
    Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-11-28 10:12 +0100
      Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-28 04:23 -0800
    Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-30 20:29 -0600
      Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-01 04:00 -0800
        Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 09:38 -0600
          Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-01 11:53 -0800
            Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:58 -0600
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-01 22:46 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-02 04:31 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-04 22:59 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 23:16 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-05 10:00 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-04 23:18 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:48 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-03 02:49 -0800
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-02 14:46 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:50 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-03 10:07 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-03 20:22 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-03 11:32 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-03 21:17 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-04 01:38 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 16:00 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-05 23:43 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 18:01 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-09 02:48 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 16:32 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 03:09 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-15 03:36 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 03:58 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 04:24 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-03 12:07 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-03 21:44 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 02:20 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-04 18:48 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 10:18 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 10:34 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-04 20:07 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 11:29 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 11:42 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 11:49 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 11:46 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-04 21:09 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Wilda Bolander <WdaaddoiBleld@WdaaddoiBleld.Wda> - 2016-12-04 20:23 +0000
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-05 15:13 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Chantell Dillingham <lntliiDtilnigDlnii@lntliiDtilnigDlnii.lnt> - 2016-12-05 14:17 +0000
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-06 13:04 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 12:25 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 12:27 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-04 13:06 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 21:26 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-04 23:29 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-04 23:35 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-05 10:04 -0600
        Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-04 23:16 -0600
  Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-11-28 19:09 +1100
    Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-28 01:13 -0800
      Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-11-29 12:44 +1100
        Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-29 00:41 -0800
          Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-11-29 03:05 -0800
          Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-01 12:13 +1100
      Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-05 15:00 +0100
        Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-05 07:35 -0800
          Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-05 10:18 -0600
            Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-05 10:05 -0800
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 12:14 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-05 13:06 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 15:18 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 05:50 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 10:27 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 12:14 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 14:29 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 16:37 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-06 19:37 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-08 11:11 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-08 13:29 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 15:28 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-06 05:57 -0800
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Chantell Dillingham <intlii@dtilnignii.org> - 2016-12-05 18:19 +0000
            Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-05 23:33 -0800
            Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-06 00:00 -0800
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-07 18:54 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-07 17:06 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-08 03:07 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-08 09:10 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-09 02:51 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 13:39 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-10 00:54 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 00:22 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-12 02:05 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 17:17 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 00:22 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-09 03:34 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-12 12:42 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 00:16 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-16 08:04 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-19 19:03 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Darron Borton <ororrt@orrtnorr.info> - 2016-12-20 03:29 +0000
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-20 00:56 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-22 10:48 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 10:52 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 14:22 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-22 23:10 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 07:06 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-23 01:35 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 08:59 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-23 10:17 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 05:19 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 09:24 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-27 09:39 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-24 09:41 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-24 07:50 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-25 04:06 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-13 06:31 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 11:18 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-14 10:37 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-14 08:55 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-14 12:53 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 10:55 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 09:50 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 10:13 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-15 13:20 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 14:04 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 00:35 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-12-16 05:50 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 06:10 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-16 07:13 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-16 07:21 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-15 10:32 -0800
                The mummy of Ken Shito speaks from beyond the grave "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-15 10:36 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-15 20:02 -0600
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-16 06:29 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-13 06:54 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-12-08 08:11 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-09 02:43 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 13:37 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-10 00:56 -0800
            Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-08 10:16 -0800
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-12-08 23:09 -0600
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-09 13:16 +0100
          Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-06 14:58 +0100
            Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-06 06:02 -0800
            Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-06 10:51 -0800
              Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-06 22:55 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-07 01:25 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-07 11:06 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-07 04:29 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-08 15:45 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-08 11:12 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-09 13:43 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-07 13:47 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Chantell Dillingham <intlii@dtilnignii.org> - 2016-12-07 13:19 +0000
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-08 15:41 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-09 23:48 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-11 02:12 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-12-11 05:37 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-11 09:39 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-11 22:31 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-12-11 23:16 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-12 03:04 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-12 14:29 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-12 07:52 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-13 19:26 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 10:57 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-13 22:53 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-13 23:56 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-14 10:23 +0100
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity worlov@yandex.ru - 2016-12-14 01:49 -0800
                Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-12-12 18:37 +0100
  Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-30 20:08 -0600
  Re: The real time stretching in effect refutes the special relativity numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 19:18 -0800

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