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Re: Question For Relativity 'Experts'.

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Question For Relativity 'Experts'.
Date 2016-09-29 09:25 +1000
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On 29/09/2016 2:47 AM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
> On 28/09/16 15:18, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 28/09/2016 2:18 PM, HGW wrote:
>>> On 28/09/16 11:38, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/2016 6:39 AM, HGWilson, DSc. wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't want to do a step by step argument? Worried about what
>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>> last time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is obvious what happens. The later pulses move towards the
>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>> ones....just as it happens with bullets...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is it obvious - what's your argument in detail?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just try firing bullets from an accelerating machine gun in remote
>>>>> space.
>>>>> It is quite obvious what will happen to them. Even a 2yo kid could
>>>>> work
>>>>> that out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, with bullets that don't travel at the speed of light, it's true.
>>>>
>>>> Now, given that pulses of light do travel at the speed of light,
>>>> what is
>>>> your argument in detail?
>>>
>>> The speed of light relative to the source is indeed c. Since the source
>>> is accelerating, no two pulses will move at the same speed. What could
>>> possibly make them do otherwise?
>>
>> Suppose you have an observer initially at rest relative to the source.
>> The sources emits a pulse, then accelerates for a while and emits a
>> second pulse. Meanwhile the observer remains accelerated.
>>
>> Since the second pulse is moving at c relative to the source, it is also
>> moving at c relative to the observer, because anything moving a c does
>> so relative to anything else.
>
> If you want to believe that there is little hope for you....I suggest
> you should start looking for the aether that you seem to believe exists.

It's an experimental result that the speed of light is a constant, and 
the same for all observers. It's counter-intuitive and you may not like 
it, but that's the reality we live with.

Einstein shows mathematically how space and time are related so as to 
produce this result, and the math describes the results of your thought 
experiment so as to avoid the pulses catching up with each other.

Your attempts to prove that relativity is wrong always amount to 
assuming it is first.

Sylvia.

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  Re: Question For Relativity 'Experts'. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-22 13:42 +1000
    Re: Question For Relativity 'Experts'. HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-22 14:56 +1000
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