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Re: Question For Relativity 'Experts'.

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Question For Relativity 'Experts'.
Date 2016-10-19 20:12 +1100
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On 19/10/2016 7:58 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu środa, 19 października 2016 10:27:25 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>> On 19/10/2016 6:20 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu środa, 19 października 2016 08:58:03 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>>>> On 9/10/2016 12:28 AM, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
>>>>> W dniu piątek, 7 października 2016 05:46:08 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else
>>>>>
>>>>>> I take it, then, that you haven't done such an experiment. You're just
>>>>>> assuming the result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> An experiment which measures the one-way speed is very simple:
>>>>> just use a radar.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you must first to calibrate your instrument correctly,
>>>>> so you should measure two times, two different speeds... at least.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The difficulty with measuring the one way speed is that to do it one
>>>> needs to make time measurements at the start and end, and subtract one
>>>> from the other to determine the transit time. But subtracting one from
>>>> the other only makes sense if the clocks are synchronised. There are
>>>> essentially two ways of synchronising clocks - keeping them apart and
>>>> sending signals between them, or bringing them together and then moving
>>>> them apart.
>>>>
>>>> In the first case, it begs the question of how fast the signals
>>>> propagate, and whether they propagate at the same speed in both directions.
>>>>
>>>> In the second case, the question is whether the clocks will remain
>>>> synchronised when they are moved apart.
>>>
>>> In both cases - when we don't like the result
>>> (when it doesn't match our beloved theory,
>>> for instance) - we're free to reject it.
>>>
>>
>> I haven't mentioned a theory. It's about assumptions. Are you going to
>> assume that the clocks are synchronised without evidence?
>
> 1)I can't have the evidence, for the reasons
> You've mentioned. I have no choice, I have to
> assume.
> 2)Why not?
>
If you make an assumption about the synchronisation of the clocks, then 
that assumption contaminates the results of the experiments. Indeed, the 
assumption gets carried over into any other experiment that relies on 
this one giving the correct results.

It's not a useful way of finding out how the universe works.

Sylvia.

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