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Re: Could gravitational energy have a spectrum of colors ?

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Am 09.12.2015 13:26, schrieb Gary Harnagel:

> "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how
> smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
> -- Richard P. Feynman
>
> "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the
> easiest person to fool." -- Richard P. Feynman
>
>> This mechanism is visible in the sun, but also in other phenomena:
>>
>> The sun radiates because it is so large and not because it burns some
>> kind of material.
>
> Small objects radiate too, as anyone who has been near a fireplace knows.
> Furthermore, your unfounded assertion is refuted by conservation of energy
> which has been fully confirmed.

???
Insecure what you try to say.

I was talking about *my* model, which I have invented. This uses a 
concept, I have written about.

The concept based on common observations and certain undisputed facts 
from physics, but not on any kind of 'law'. Such laws are generalisation 
of observed facts.

E.g. I assume that angular momentum is conserved.

Whether or not 'Conservation of energy' is valid, that depends on the 
definition of the term 'energy'.

For example I disagree with the formula E=m*c², since (in my eyes) the 
signs are wrong and 'deltas' are missing.

My version goes like this: E = - delta(m)* c²


>> So I assume, that the light in the sky stems in parts not from the sun,
>> but is generated in the atmosphere.
>
> This is denial of energy conservation again.

???

The term 'denial' is not well defined in physics.

Let's call it: I disagree with you opinion.


>> The good question: how could I draw such a conclusion?
>>
>> Well, I use a certain trick:
>
> The "trick" appears to be that you deny reality.
???

Again: I have invented a hypothesis, which attempts to explain certain 
observed phenomena.

This explanation could eventually be wrong. But definitely I don't try 
to reject the real world.



>> it is a spherical structure with what I illustrate 'spacetime elements'.
>>
>> They spin and have a spin-axis. It these are parallel you see nothing.
>> But curvature make these axis get tilted against each other, what you
>> can see (as radiation).
>
> This is gobbledegook.

In other words: you don't understand it.

But, lucky for you, I have made a lot of very nice illustration, which 
you may eventually understand:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6


>> TH
>
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  Re: Could gravitational energy have a spectrum of colors ? shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-11-22 06:15 +0000
    Re: Could gravitational energy have a spectrum of colors ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-22 09:24 +0100
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