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Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe
Date 2015-12-14 06:35 +0100
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Am 14.12.2015 04:16, schrieb John Gogo:

>>
>> There is no edge to FLAT EARTH!
>> The edge always moves away from you.
>>
>>
>> w.
>
> No, the edge is way too far away to see by our primitive scopes, so far.

Actually we receive light from the past. Further away is also older.

Extremely far away is the big bang and further on it can't go. 
(According to the standard model of cosmology)

The questions are:

does it make sense?
is it a valid assumption?

I would say, no, it is both: untrue and stupid.

The reason is, that if big-bang-cosmology would be true, we would see 
kind of milky soup along the 'edge', what is about 13.5 billion 
light-years away. But we see galaxies that far away.

This does not fit to the big-bang theory, since galaxies need time to 
form (particles first, than dust, than stars, than stars building 
structures).

And it would most likely take a LOT of time.  So galaxies are not 
expected near the 'edge'.

TH

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There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 13:04 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:17 +0000
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 17:54 -0500
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:57 +0000
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-08 19:15 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:27 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 07:20 +0100
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:56 -0600
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            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:54 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:00 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 22:15 +0100
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 21:55 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 22:13 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 15:33 +0000
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