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Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe
Date 2015-12-10 08:37 +0100
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Am 10.12.2015 07:20, schrieb benj:

>>>>>> There are things which cannot be visualised, but yet fully
>>>>>> understandable only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually the expansion of space has been observed and measured.
>>>>> A good value for the expansion of space is 67.80 ± 0.9 km/sec/Mpc
>>>>
>>>> In which direction? Man. that I need to ask. Or that number stands not
>>>> for what it says it stands.
>>>>
>>> 67.80 ± 0.9 km/sec/Mpc in every direction -- Isotropy
>>
>> Except the exterior direction? lol. So the Univ is not really expanding.
>> Do you have a theory backing up the daffy incongruous sophomoric
>> regurgitation you say?
>
> Obviously the only possible answer is the universe is expanding in the
> EXTRADIMENSIONAL directions! Of course Warmley denies the existence of
> higher dimensional spaces! Yeah. Sophomoric.
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone

What we SEE is light and light moves along the light-cone.

We SEE stars, hence what we call 'universe' is in fact our own past 
light-cone.

This is OUR OWN past light-cone, hence we are in the middle (centre) of 
'the universe' (actually: our universe).

But this universe is not really real, but a picture of what we receive 
from the past.

So, what is real then?

If we look at the Minkowski diagram with the light-cone, the 'real 
thing' is this 'sheet' called 'space-like'.

Now the world is not flat, hence the space-like plane represents 
something else.

This space represented by this plane could be imagined by taking three 
of such 'sheets' in right angle to each other, where to any plane 
belongs a specific 'axis of time', which is unique for that space.

(Well, somehow like that...)

But maybe you like to read my 'book' about this subject:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6


TH

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There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 13:04 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:17 +0000
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 17:54 -0500
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:57 +0000
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-08 19:15 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:27 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 07:20 +0100
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:56 -0600
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            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:51 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:00 +0000
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