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Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject	Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued
Date	2015-09-12 08:33 +0200
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Am 11.09.2015 15:03, schrieb Lleyton H. Bellucci:
> Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 05:56:26 -0700  *_fuller.david_* ha scritto:
>
>>> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL,
>>> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in
>>> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL.
>>>
>>> Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers
>>> this gives a score of
>>>
>>> Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2
>>> Have a nice weekend.
>>
>> It is simple matter is an amount of entropy, that entropy is increasing.
>
> Wow, this must give
>
> Relativity 0
> Divergent Matter 3
>
> I really appreciate.

Actually I think, that GR is true and there is a physical entity called 
'spacetime'. This we observe from the inside, because we are a part of 
that entity, like anything else.

Matter is also a part, like a wave is a part of the ocean.

I explain matter a 'structures' of/in spacetime. This matter is 
'relative' (to the specific FoR, from where we observe).

So matter is not matter in some other FoR, if that is chosen in a 
certain way. This is a mutual relation, where one object is shrinking in 
one FoR, while expanding in another FoR.

Once it's too small to see, it has 'dropped behind the event horizon' - 
where it still is unchanged.

Our observation is then like a 'comoving cut', since we are using the 
same kind of clocks around the globe.

The surface of the Earth is not the only possible place. It is only 
difficult to leave (for us as common human beings). But we could imagine 
to be in another location and observe the world from there.

That FoR would be like our view upon the universe. We would only see a 
different 'universe' there, since in different FoR we have also a 
different way to measure time and a different order of causal relations.

The latter assumption is usually, what people make dislike this idea. 
But it is actually much more plausible than the calender-like timeline 
of big-bang-theory.


TH

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The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 11:29 +0000
  Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 11:54 +0000
    Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 11:58 +0000
      Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-11 08:18 -0400
        Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 12:36 +0000
          Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 12:45 +0000
    Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-11 08:15 -0400
      Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 12:39 +0000
      Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-11 17:23 -0700
    Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 08:46 -0700
      Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-17 20:33 +0000
  The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-11 05:56 -0700
    Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 13:03 +0000
      Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-12 08:33 +0200
        Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 08:24 -0400
          Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 05:34 -0700
            Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 09:23 -0400
              Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 09:27 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 17:23 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-12 21:29 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 15:07 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 12:17 -0500
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 16:32 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 15:45 -0500
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 17:28 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 17:10 -0500
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 20:38 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 08:27 -0500
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-15 14:38 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 13:44 -0500
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-15 21:01 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-14 20:55 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 17:29 -0400
        Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 05:32 -0700
          Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 09:22 -0400
            Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 08:33 -0700
              Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 09:36 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-14 07:57 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 12:29 -0400
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 18:48 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 08:33 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-23 14:10 -0400
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 08:36 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 08:46 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 11:13 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 09:06 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 10:46 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-23 19:19 +0000
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-23 17:51 +0000
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 11:02 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-23 19:18 +0000
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 07:55 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 08:18 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-24 14:55 +0000
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 08:05 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 09:15 -0700
                Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-24 18:46 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-17 21:02 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-18 13:28 -0700
              Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 12:38 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 10:10 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 11:06 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 11:24 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 16:50 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 14:37 -0700
        Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-12 16:03 +0000
      Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-12 21:45 +0200
        Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 13:00 -0700
          Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-13 02:51 +0200
            Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 06:25 -0700
            Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 06:52 -0700
              Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 08:02 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-13 12:12 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-18 20:41 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-18 17:18 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-18 21:49 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-18 22:01 +0000
              Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-13 21:48 +0200
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-13 16:05 -0400
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-14 05:19 +0200
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-14 03:53 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 21:15 -0700
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-14 06:57 +0200
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-15 21:18 +0200
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-15 20:23 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-16 07:48 +0200
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-16 09:49 +0000
                Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-16 20:09 +0200

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