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| Started by | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| First post | 2015-09-11 11:29 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-09-16 20:09 +0200 |
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The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 11:29 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 11:54 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 11:58 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-11 08:18 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 12:36 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 12:45 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-11 08:15 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 12:39 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-11 17:23 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 08:46 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-17 20:33 +0000
The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-11 05:56 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-11 13:03 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-12 08:33 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 08:24 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 05:34 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 09:23 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 09:27 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 17:23 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-12 21:29 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 15:07 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 12:17 -0500
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 16:32 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 15:45 -0500
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 17:28 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 17:10 -0500
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 20:38 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 08:27 -0500
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-15 14:38 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 13:44 -0500
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-15 21:01 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-14 20:55 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 17:29 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 05:32 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 09:22 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 08:33 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 09:36 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-14 07:57 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-14 12:29 -0400
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 18:48 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 08:33 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-23 14:10 -0400
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 08:36 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 08:46 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 11:13 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 09:06 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 10:46 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-23 19:19 +0000
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-23 17:51 +0000
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-23 11:02 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-23 19:18 +0000
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 07:55 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 08:18 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-24 14:55 +0000
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 08:05 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-24 09:15 -0700
Re: The mixed Up Nonsense of fyller.david - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-24 18:46 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-17 21:02 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-18 13:28 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 12:38 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 10:10 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 11:06 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 11:24 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-12 16:50 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 14:37 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> - 2015-09-12 16:03 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-12 21:45 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-12 13:00 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-13 02:51 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 06:25 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 06:52 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 08:02 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-13 12:12 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-18 20:41 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-18 17:18 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-18 21:49 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-18 22:01 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-13 21:48 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-13 16:05 -0400
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-14 05:19 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-14 03:53 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-13 21:15 -0700
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-14 06:57 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-15 21:18 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-15 20:23 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-16 07:48 +0200
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-16 09:49 +0000
Re: The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-16 20:09 +0200
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| From | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 11:29 +0000 |
| Subject | The Nonsense of Divergent Matter - continued |
| Message-ID | <msudvg$bg$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
Another significant aspect jumping in front of my eyes, beside the nonsensicality of having a space, time and spacetime contracting, dilating and curving, are Tensors. While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL. Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers this gives a score of Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2 Have a nice weekend.
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| From | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 11:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msufdo$3u2$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363749 |
Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:29:52 +0000 *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* ha scritto: > Another significant aspect jumping in front of my eyes, beside the > nonsensicality of having a space, time and spacetime contracting, > dilating and curving, are Tensors. > While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, > defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in > Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL. > Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers > this gives a score of > Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2 > > Have a nice weekend. It can't be otherwise. Both the T, the stress-energy Tensor, and the Metric from the other side, are embedded and material. Since you cant get Stress and Energy out of empty space or "spacetime", (other than the unrelated energies, etc). Similarly, you can possibly NOT have a Metric Tensor floating inside a Control Volume of an empty space. Would be something they use to call for Heresy. I mean, there is nothing in there. It is just NOT. Naturally, something that balance and maps an amount of Energy, and having a Metric, must only be inside a Control Volume of Matter. This constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Material is Science, Immaterial is not.
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| From | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 11:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msufls$4f8$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363751 |
Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:54:34 -0700 (PDT) *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* ha scritto: > Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:29:52 -0700 (PDT) *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* > ha scritto: > >> Another significant aspect jumping in front of my eyes, beside the >> nonsensicality of having a space, time and spacetime contracting, >> dilating and curving, are Tensors. >> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, >> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in >> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL. >> Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In >> numbers this gives a score of Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2 >> >> Have a nice weekend. > > It can't be otherwise. Both the T, the stress-energy Tensor, and the > Metric from the other side, are embedded and material. > > Since you cant get Stress and Energy out of empty space or "spacetime", > (other than the unrelated energies, etc). Similarly, you can possibly > NOT have a Metric Tensor floating inside a Control Volume of an empty > space. Would be something they use to call for Heresy. I mean, there is > nothing in there. It is just NOT. > > Naturally, something that balance and maps an amount of Energy, and > having a Metric, must only be inside a Control Volume of Matter. This > constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Material is Science, > Immaterial is not. To be read This constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Modern Science is based on. Material is Science, Immaterial is just not.
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 08:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dfh5vads5j69he33striuu6tm3q3936vf8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #363752 |
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:58:53 +0000 (UTC), "Lleyton H. Bellucci"
<lleyb@stratospheree.org> wrote:
>Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:54:34 -0700 (PDT) *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* ha
>scritto:
>
>> Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:29:52 -0700 (PDT) *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_*
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Another significant aspect jumping in front of my eyes, beside the
>>> nonsensicality of having a space, time and spacetime contracting,
>>> dilating and curving, are Tensors.
>>> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL,
>>> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in
>>> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL.
>>> Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In
>>> numbers this gives a score of Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2
>>>
>>> Have a nice weekend.
>>
>> It can't be otherwise. Both the T, the stress-energy Tensor, and the
>> Metric from the other side, are embedded and material.
>>
>> Since you cant get Stress and Energy out of empty space or "spacetime",
>> (other than the unrelated energies, etc). Similarly, you can possibly
>> NOT have a Metric Tensor floating inside a Control Volume of an empty
>> space. Would be something they use to call for Heresy. I mean, there is
>> nothing in there. It is just NOT.
>>
>> Naturally, something that balance and maps an amount of Energy, and
>> having a Metric, must only be inside a Control Volume of Matter. This
>> constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Material is Science,
>> Immaterial is not.
>
>To be read
>
>This constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Modern Science is based
>on. Material is Science, Immaterial is just not.
"Immaterial" is not a noun.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=immaterial+meaning
and is not related to "matter", you stupid nym-chsnging troll.
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| From | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 12:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msuhsp$9vk$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363755 |
Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:18:29 -0400 *_kefischer_* ha scritto: >>This constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Modern Science is >>based on. Material is Science, Immaterial is just not. > > "Immaterial" is not a noun. > > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=immaterial+meaning > > and is not related to "matter", you stupid nym-chsnging troll. You stupid hairy ape, you write history again. That's in the sense of the above context. A DEFINITION. If Material is a noun on the LHS, then on right hand side of the equation you must have a noun as well. What you do is proving you are an ignorant in Grammars as well (a domain in Engineering and Science). You just bring the theory of Divergent Matter in a bad light. This is your intention. If you want to promote and help Divergent Matter, you have to shut-up.
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| From | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 12:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msuicj$b6o$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363756 |
Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:36:43 +0000 *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* ha scritto: > Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:18:29 -0400 *_kefischer_* ha scritto: > >>>This constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Modern Science is >>>based on. Material is Science, Immaterial is just not. >> >> "Immaterial" is not a noun. >> >> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=immaterial+meaning >> >> and is not related to "matter", you stupid nym-chsnging troll. > > You stupid hairy ape, you write history again. That's in the sense of > the above context. A DEFINITION. If Material is a noun on the LHS, then > on right hand side of the equation you must have a noun as well. Actually, that Material stands for the "Material World". Consequently, that Immaterial stands for the "Immaterial World". You are a joke, Fishy.
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 08:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lbh5val3vsjdprf5ipln69trgtqsk6ami0@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #363751 |
On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:54:34 +0000 (UTC), "Lleyton H. Bellucci"
<lleyb@stratospheree.org> wrote:
>Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:29:52 +0000 *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* ha
>scritto:
>
>> Another significant aspect jumping in front of my eyes, beside the
>> nonsensicality of having a space, time and spacetime contracting,
>> dilating and curving, are Tensors.
>> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL,
>> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in
>> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL.
>> Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers
>> this gives a score of
>> Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2
>>
>> Have a nice weekend.
>
>It can't be otherwise. Both the T, the stress-energy Tensor, and the
>Metric from the other side, are embedded and material.
>
>Since you cant get Stress and Energy out of empty space or "spacetime",
>(other than the unrelated energies, etc). Similarly, you can possibly NOT
>have a Metric Tensor floating inside a Control Volume of an empty space.
>Would be something they use to call for Heresy. I mean, there is nothing
>in there. It is just NOT.
>
>Naturally, something that balance and maps an amount of Energy, and having
>a Metric, must only be inside a Control Volume of Matter. This constitutes
>in fact the fundamental premises, Material is Science, Immaterial is not.
Quit talking about Divergent Matter, you know
nothing about it, all you know is how to change
your user ID.
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| From | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 12:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msui22$9vk$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363754 |
Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:15:22 -0400 *_kefischer_* ha scritto: > On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:54:34 +0000 (UTC), "Lleyton H. Bellucci" > <lleyb@stratospheree.org> wrote: > >>Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:29:52 +0000 *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* ha >>scritto: >> >>> Another significant aspect jumping in front of my eyes, beside the >>> nonsensicality of having a space, time and spacetime contracting, >>> dilating and curving, are Tensors. >>> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, >>> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in >>> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally >>> MATERIAL. Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is >>> Expanding. In numbers this gives a score of Relativity 0 Divergent >>> Matter 2 >>> >>> Have a nice weekend. >> >>It can't be otherwise. Both the T, the stress-energy Tensor, and the >>Metric from the other side, are embedded and material. >> >>Since you cant get Stress and Energy out of empty space or "spacetime", >>(other than the unrelated energies, etc). Similarly, you can possibly >>NOT have a Metric Tensor floating inside a Control Volume of an empty >>space. Would be something they use to call for Heresy. I mean, there is >>nothing in there. It is just NOT. >> >>Naturally, something that balance and maps an amount of Energy, and >>having a Metric, must only be inside a Control Volume of Matter. This >>constitutes in fact the fundamental premises, Material is Science, >>Immaterial is not. > > Quit talking about Divergent Matter, you know > nothing about it, all you know is how to change your user ID. You lying hypocrite. All Divergent Matter you think you know, you stole from nice intelligent people like me. But you prove in your posts that you know even less than NOTHING. Which is Okay.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 17:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c6e5b0e1-a2d6-4746-8112-a7ee243fee29@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #363754 |
On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 6:15:26 AM UTC-6, kefischer wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:54:34 +0000 (UTC), "Lleyton H. Bellucci" > <lleyb@stratospheree.org> wrote: > > > > Naturally, something that balance and maps an amount of Energy, and having > > a Metric, must only be inside a Control Volume of Matter. This constitutes > > in fact the fundamental premises, Material is Science, Immaterial is not. > > Quit talking about Divergent Matter, you know > nothing about it, all you know is how to change > your user ID. Quit talking about GR, you know nothing about it.
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| From | John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-13 08:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2117cf5f-5558-4e48-9d02-952e6fdaf409@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #363751 |
On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 7:54:38 AM UTC-4, Lleyton H. Bellucci wrote: > Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:29:52 +0000 *_Lleyton H. Bellucci_* ha > scritto: > > > Another significant aspect jumping in front of my eyes, beside the > > nonsensicality of having a space, time and spacetime contracting, > > dilating and curving, are Tensors. > > While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, > > defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in > > Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL. > > Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers > > this gives a score of > > Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2 > > > > Have a nice weekend. > > It can't be otherwise. Both the T, the stress-energy Tensor, and the > Metric from the other side, are embedded and material. > > Since you cant get Stress and Energy out of empty space or "spacetime", > (other than the unrelated energies, etc). Similarly, you can possibly NOT > have a Metric Tensor floating inside a Control Volume of an empty space. > Would be something they use to call for Heresy. I mean, there is nothing > in there. It is just NOT. > > Naturally, something that balance and maps an amount of Energy, and having > a Metric, must only be inside a Control Volume of Matter. This constitutes > in fact the fundamental premises, Material is Science, Immaterial is not. One step at a time . I assume there is enough common ground here that there is agreement that you can not go faster than light. This one is in the books as it has been tested many times and no one has been able to force a particle to move faster than light. With this in mind I am going to increase your size to 1 light hour , size of the solar system. I now ask you to clap your hands. As you can not move faster than light it will take a hour just to bring your hands together. Faced with this problem of barely being able to move your hands let alone clap are you sure a vacuum is nothing? What is stopping your hands from moving? You said and I quote"I mean,there is nothing in there. It is just NOT" If it is just NOT then what is stopping your hands from moving? '
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| From | Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-17 20:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mtf834$a0m$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363986 |
John Heath wrote: > With this in mind I am going to increase your size to 1 light hour , > size of the solar system. I now ask you to clap your hands. As you can > not move faster than light it will take a hour just to bring your hands > together. Has nothing to do with anything. You need to learn Divergent Matter first.
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| From | fuller.david@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 05:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <163e902e-31be-43a7-9bdd-23da1737fab4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #363749 |
While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL. Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers this gives a score of Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2 Have a nice weekend. It is simple matter is an amount of entropy, that entropy is increasing.
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| From | "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 13:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msujev$ccc$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363759 |
Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 05:56:26 -0700 *_fuller.david_* ha scritto: >> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, >> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in >> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL. >> >> Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers >> this gives a score of >> >> Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2 >> Have a nice weekend. > > It is simple matter is an amount of entropy, that entropy is increasing. Wow, this must give Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 3 I really appreciate.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 08:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d5hv97Fse7iU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #363760 |
Am 11.09.2015 15:03, schrieb Lleyton H. Bellucci: > Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 05:56:26 -0700 *_fuller.david_* ha scritto: > >>> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL, >>> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in >>> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL. >>> >>> Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers >>> this gives a score of >>> >>> Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2 >>> Have a nice weekend. >> >> It is simple matter is an amount of entropy, that entropy is increasing. > > Wow, this must give > > Relativity 0 > Divergent Matter 3 > > I really appreciate. Actually I think, that GR is true and there is a physical entity called 'spacetime'. This we observe from the inside, because we are a part of that entity, like anything else. Matter is also a part, like a wave is a part of the ocean. I explain matter a 'structures' of/in spacetime. This matter is 'relative' (to the specific FoR, from where we observe). So matter is not matter in some other FoR, if that is chosen in a certain way. This is a mutual relation, where one object is shrinking in one FoR, while expanding in another FoR. Once it's too small to see, it has 'dropped behind the event horizon' - where it still is unchanged. Our observation is then like a 'comoving cut', since we are using the same kind of clocks around the globe. The surface of the Earth is not the only possible place. It is only difficult to leave (for us as common human beings). But we could imagine to be in another location and observe the world from there. That FoR would be like our view upon the universe. We would only see a different 'universe' there, since in different FoR we have also a different way to measure time and a different order of causal relations. The latter assumption is usually, what people make dislike this idea. But it is actually much more plausible than the calender-like timeline of big-bang-theory. TH
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 08:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ba68va5vodrgqljsrrk9vld5f78v5ghu8l@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #363851 |
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:33:05 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>Am 11.09.2015 15:03, schrieb Lleyton H. Bellucci:
>> Il giorno Fri, 11 Sep 2015 05:56:26 -0700 *_fuller.david_* ha scritto:
>>
>>>> While in Relativity Tensors are something Inconceivable IMMATERIAL,
>>>> defined /assumed floating in empty space, "spacetime" or wherever, in
>>>> Divergent Matter Tensors are pretty much WELL posed literally MATERIAL.
>>>>
>>>> Of course they are embedded in the Matter which is Expanding. In numbers
>>>> this gives a score of
>>>>
>>>> Relativity 0 Divergent Matter 2
>>>> Have a nice weekend.
>>>
>>> It is simple matter is an amount of entropy, that entropy is increasing.
>>
>> Wow, this must give
>>
>> Relativity 0
>> Divergent Matter 3
>>
>> I really appreciate.
>
>Actually I think, that GR is true and there is a physical entity called
>'spacetime'. This we observe from the inside, because we are a part of
>that entity, like anything else.
>
>Matter is also a part, like a wave is a part of the ocean.
>
>I explain matter a 'structures' of/in spacetime. This matter is
>'relative' (to the specific FoR, from where we observe).
>
>So matter is not matter in some other FoR, if that is chosen in a
>certain way. This is a mutual relation, where one object is shrinking in
>one FoR, while expanding in another FoR.
>
>Once it's too small to see, it has 'dropped behind the event horizon' -
>where it still is unchanged.
>
>Our observation is then like a 'comoving cut', since we are using the
>same kind of clocks around the globe.
>
>The surface of the Earth is not the only possible place. It is only
>difficult to leave (for us as common human beings). But we could imagine
>to be in another location and observe the world from there.
>
>That FoR would be like our view upon the universe. We would only see a
>different 'universe' there, since in different FoR we have also a
>different way to measure time and a different order of causal relations.
>
>The latter assumption is usually, what people make dislike this idea.
>But it is actually much more plausible than the calender-like timeline
>of big-bang-theory.
>
>TH
And all you need is a little physics
to replace the delirious confusing fiction.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 05:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69363253-71ba-4f7b-bb42-fe9fa83eba8f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #363870 |
On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 6:24:54 AM UTC-6, kefischer wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:33:05 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > > .... > > TH > > And all you need is a little physics > to replace the delirious confusing fiction. Pot, kettle, black :-))
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 09:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4o98vahvqscouktrhqvc0u3vf8qjjuqp9c@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #363874 |
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:34:26 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
<hitlong@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 6:24:54 AM UTC-6, kefischer wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:33:05 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> > ....
>> > TH
>>
>> And all you need is a little physics
>> to replace the delirious confusing fiction.
>
>Pot, kettle, black :-))
And you probably are as unbalanced as Heger
about the physics of gravitation. :-)
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 09:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9dd60d53-34a2-4ec5-a31b-05d6686b638a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #363878 |
On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 7:23:16 AM UTC-6, kefischer wrote: > > And you probably are as unbalanced as Heger > about the physics of gravitation. :-) Whatever my condition, your ideas are not only unbalanced by totally crackpot.
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| From | kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 17:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <js59va54kqpinmhq4mu28i96lifqqp1668@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #363894 |
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 09:27:56 -0700 (PDT), Gary Harnagel
<hitlong@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 7:23:16 AM UTC-6, kefischer wrote:
>>
>> And you probably are as unbalanced as Heger
>> about the physics of gravitation. :-)
>
>Whatever my condition, your ideas are not only unbalanced by totally crackpot.
Probably so, because as of this month,
as crazy as it sounds, I am convinced that
Divergent Matter is the only possible cause
of gravitation.
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| From | Frances Espinosa <franesp@portio.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 21:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mt25es$c6i$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #363926 |
kefischer wrote: >>Whatever my condition, your ideas are not only unbalanced by totally >>crackpot. > > Probably so, because as of this month, > as crazy as it sounds, I am convinced that Divergent Matter is the only > possible cause of gravitation. Because you got your convinces from other people. You cannot have convinces by yourself. You just fool yourself. The first thing you need to learn in Physics is to avoid be fooled by yourself. Don't let that moron fool you, kefischer.
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