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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox

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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 4:39:13 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/12/2015 3:09 PM, kenseto wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 12:29:06 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 8/12/2015 11:09 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:53:48 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 8/12/2015 9:11 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 6:16:45 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/11/2015 4:49 PM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 12:02:53 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 8/11/2015 10:47 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:34:55 AM UTC-4, rotchm wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:06:42 AM UTC-4, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do the LT's predict: t' = (t-vx/c2)g. Since v = 0, t'=t,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> which contradicts our above conclusion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But v is not equal to zero. It is calculated as follows:
> >>>>>>>>>>> v=(universal wavelength of the source)(measured frequency of
> >>>>>>>>>>> the source - measure frequency at the detector)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But unfortunately for you, thats not how v (speed) is defined in SR.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> SR is wrong and incomplete. That's why it is not capable of handling gravity.
> >>>>>>>>> My formula is valid in all environments including gravity.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ken, you'd have to describe how your definition of v would help you
> >>>>>>>> measure the speed of a fastball at a baseball game.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You use the same formula I provided:
> >>>>>>> v=(universal wavelength of the radar souce)((initial frequency of the radar source - returning frequency)/2)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't have a radar gun. How do I measure the speed of a fastball at a
> >>>>>> baseball game?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As you said: Don't be so lazy.....look it up!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The key to physics is measurement. You have a definition of velocity and
> >>>> have specified that the only way that you can measure that velocity is
> >>>> if the object is emitting light or if you can use a radar gun on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Really? How did anyone measure the speed of a runner in the 1700s? Did
> >>>> they have to go look it up?
> >>>
> >>> Idiot PD..... look it up!!!!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yup, ok, did that. Back in the day, velocity was completely measurable
> >> without measuring the frequency of any light bounced off the moving object.
> >
> > Somoron PD..... look it up how they do it.
> 
> I did!

Then show us that you did.
> 
> >>
> >> You now say this is the only way to measure velocity.
> >
> >
> > You are a lying sack of shit. I never said that. I gave you the IRT way of measuring v.
> 
> Ah, OK, so IRT can't measure v of an object unless you use a radar gun 
> or unless you measure the wavelength of light emitted by it.

Moron PD.....I didn't say that either. I did say that you are a piece of shit.

> 
> >>
> >> So, Ken, if you want to see why your statement is so laughably stupid, I
> >> suppose YOU can look it up.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-10 22:10 +0200
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:36 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-10 22:54 +0200
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-10 16:53 -0500
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 18:24 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 23:06 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-11 05:43 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 09:32 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-02 10:32 -0500
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 22:01 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-07 09:52 -0500
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 21:34 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:39 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-11 08:06 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 08:34 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-11 08:47 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 11:02 -0500
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-11 14:49 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-11 15:11 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 17:16 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-12 07:11 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 09:53 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-12 09:09 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 11:29 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-12 13:09 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:39 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-12 14:47 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 16:52 -0500

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