Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon

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Subject	Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon
Date	2016-04-07 20:09 +0000
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In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to
>> a discussion of colonies.
> 
> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up.  It’s always fun to see 
> people attacking their own straw man arguments!  :-)
> 
>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars?
> 
> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about.  
> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth-
> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available.

I use economic thinking.

It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
far more to extract than the gold is worth.

>> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
> 
> You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?

When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
air anywhere else than Earth?

> 
>> I would say the odds of finding limestone deposits to make cement
>> highly unlikely. You do know limestone is organically created, don't
>> you?
> 
> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on 
> limestone, dont you?

Yep, but modern civilizations are built with concrete and steel; before
that it was wood.

> [blathering about industrial mining snipped]
> 
>> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings 
>> required to survive and do anything.
> 
> If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly 
> havent thought much about the problem.  These are *your* straw men.

So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?

>> You will be lacking just about all usefull chemicals as most of
>> them come from petroleum, so no plastics.
> 
> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on 
> plastics, dont you?

Not modern ones with the advanced technology required to survive off
the Earth.

> 
>> You miss the point, it would take Star Trek technology to make it affordable.
> 
> I dont miss that point at all.  I *made* that point when I questioned 
> the proposed budget.  But I am also making the point that it does *not* 
> require magical technology if you dont make the assumption that you’re 
> going to live an Earth-styled life on such an inhospitable landscape.
> 

I have been talking about colonies, i.e. families and kids.

A research station requires very little in terms of infrastructure, just
constant resupply.

It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
move to one.

It is my opinion that off Earth research stations are of limited value
and the cost and rewards of doing them should be balanced against sending
swarms of robots throughout the solar system.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400
  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0000
      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-04 18:35 +0000
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:58 -0700
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-04-05 03:50 -0400
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:20 +0000
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 16:14 -0700
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:47 -0500
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:00 -0700
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:10 -0400
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 18:51 +0000
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                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:25 -0700
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 09:57 -0500
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:20 -0700
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-14 23:59 +0100
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:01 -0700
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                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:38 +0000
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                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:58 -0400
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:17 +0000
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                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:03 +0000
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            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 19:53 -0600
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