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| Started by | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400 |
| Last post | 2016-04-15 21:39 +0000 |
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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-04 18:35 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:58 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-04-05 03:50 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:20 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 16:14 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:47 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:00 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:10 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 18:51 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-08 14:23 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:25 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 09:57 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:20 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-14 23:59 +0100
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:01 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 19:38 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 00:27 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2016-04-14 23:20 +0100
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 00:28 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:14 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:38 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-15 01:03 +0100
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:58 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:17 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:24 -0400
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:03 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-15 00:25 +0100
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 19:53 -0600
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 23:06 -0600
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:05 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:34 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 19:18 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 13:04 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 21:07 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 00:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 17:50 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 21:47 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-09 13:55 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:08 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:51 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:07 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:49 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:16 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:16 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:46 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 16:23 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:19 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 22:49 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 04:05 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 01:41 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 18:18 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:20 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 12:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:57 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 14:17 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:26 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 16:40 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:38 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-11 19:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 19:50 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 20:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:16 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:54 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:18 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:04 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 22:33 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 21:48 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 05:02 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 00:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 17:35 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:23 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 20:09 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:36 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 21:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 02:51 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 21:03 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 04:36 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 00:56 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:02 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:40 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:09 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 15:40 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:53 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 17:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 00:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 19:24 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 04:13 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 22:02 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 21:04 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:21 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 22:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 01:33 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:22 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:07 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 19:20 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 12:52 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 20:44 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 19:35 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-17 05:22 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 23:55 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-15 01:21 +0100
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:26 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:49 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:24 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:10 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:40 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:55 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:11 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:49 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:21 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:57 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:29 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:30 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-09 00:01 -0600
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-04-09 09:21 +0100
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:24 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-09 15:49 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:45 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 19:08 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:22 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:41 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:50 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-06 17:39 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:08 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:36 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:06 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:59 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:28 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:52 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:26 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:14 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:42 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:57 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:14 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:52 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:09 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:31 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:34 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:42 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-07 15:55 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:14 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-09 14:54 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:36 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:36 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:44 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:19 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:47 -0700
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-09 18:17 -0600
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 00:37 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-10 16:50 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 17:13 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-11 16:41 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 18:21 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-12 15:48 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:21 +0000
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-12 21:08 -0500
Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 22:26 -0700
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-11 19:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <j4nogbdq19fc015vj4vkeuj74v6ctvn2ps@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58207 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>Nope you said Musk planned to make money from the transport and
>>>setup. Noting about anything else to turn a profit.
>>>
>>
>> Sadly, I believe your attention span really is that short. But you're
>> still a liar.
>
>Then what else was there?
>
><snip>
>
>>>So what will Mars be selling to pay for supplies, space cadet?
>>>
>>
>> Asked and answered, chimpshit.
>
>Nope avoided with arm waving about Microsoft, space cadet.
>
Yeah, your attention span really is that short...
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-12 17:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <innvtc-24f.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58218 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >><snip> >> >>>>Nope you said Musk planned to make money from the transport and >>>>setup. Noting about anything else to turn a profit. >>>> >>> >>> Sadly, I believe your attention span really is that short. But you're >>> still a liar. >> >>Then what else was there? >> >><snip> >> >>>>So what will Mars be selling to pay for supplies, space cadet? >>>> >>> >>> Asked and answered, chimpshit. >> >>Nope avoided with arm waving about Microsoft, space cadet. >> > > Yeah, your attention span really is that short... It is difficult to pay attention to nothing. So rub my nose in it and restate the export, space cadet. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-12 15:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6hsqgbhi6jllhh49pogamfr9odmm0cv8v9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58234 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>>Nope you said Musk planned to make money from the transport and
>>>>>setup. Noting about anything else to turn a profit.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, I believe your attention span really is that short. But you're
>>>> still a liar.
>>>
>>>Then what else was there?
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>>So what will Mars be selling to pay for supplies, space cadet?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Asked and answered, chimpshit.
>>>
>>>Nope avoided with arm waving about Microsoft, space cadet.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, your attention span really is that short...
>
>It is difficult to pay attention to nothing.
>
Oh, you mean WITH nothing, as in the vacuum between your ears.
>
>So rub my nose in it and restate the export, space cadet.
>
Telecommunication, support services, information. Any of this
sounding at all familiar?
--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-12 21:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nek9qa$1p7r$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58243 |
On 4/12/2016 5:11 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oven. Whatever is needed. Oven. Whatever it needs to.
no answer ? try to think it through.
man needs 500 liters of O2 per day
there are 10 men up there, 2 are needed to run the O2 plant, and 2
are needed to run the Water plant, and 2 are needed to run the N2 plant.
so your O2 flow rate is 5,000 liters per day,
your N2 flow rate is 15,000 liters per day (assume a 25% O2)
and about 7.5 liters of water per day per person
so how many tons rocks do you cook per day ?
How much energy is needed to run the rock cooking plant?
What type of rocks work for O2 that are on the surface ?
where do you get 24 liters of water per day ? (assume a 25% recapture rate)
Biofilm questions: where does the lost water go? will the biofilm cause
dammage to the electronics? How much energy is used to keep the
Humidity down to below 70% ?
how do you reprocess the salt bath used for cooking the rocks ?
What rocks do you cook to get N2 ???
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 22:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <k3mrgbltiktm95p1i32evchv4ll1ulu8gh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58256 |
Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 4/12/2016 5:11 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oven. Whatever is needed. Oven. Whatever it needs to.
>
>no answer ? try to think it through.
>
Asked and answered by me and others. Do try to keep up.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2016-04-08 20:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ne94bn$ebi$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #58040 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> schrieb: > And the same plants that make stainless steel 8-32 screws is not going to > be making phosphor bronze relay contacts. 3D printing can actually offset a lot of that, to manufacture the actual parts. It'll actually be more versatile on Mars (because you have less gravity to drag down the metal drops). Any Mars colony will have to import specialities from Earth for a loooooooong time before becoming more or less self-sufficient. I actually liked the "Firefly" scenario. Terraforming and then turning settlers loose with a minimum of technology sounds doable, provided you can do the terrarforming part easily :-)
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-08 23:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <73qltc-fb8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58052 |
In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> schrieb: > >> And the same plants that make stainless steel 8-32 screws is not going to >> be making phosphor bronze relay contacts. > > 3D printing can actually offset a lot of that, to manufacture the actual > parts. 3D printing makes parts from raw stock. You still have to get the raw stock and there are few things that could be 3D printed. Look around your house, starting with the cloths you are wearing, and ask yourself how much of this stuff could be 3D printed. > It'll actually be more versatile on Mars (because you have less > gravity to drag down the metal drops). > Any Mars colony will have to import specialities from Earth for > a loooooooong time before becoming more or less self-sufficient. Like until we can figure out how to terraform Mars. > I actually liked the "Firefly" scenario. Terraforming and then > turning settlers loose with a minimum of technology sounds > doable, provided you can do the terrarforming part easily :-) And proven to work as shown by the settling of the American Continents. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-07 16:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ne61cq$gd2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57981 |
For your reference, records indicate that jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to > a discussion of colonies. And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It’s always fun to see people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-) > So just what are the natural resources available on Mars? All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *don’t yet* know about. The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth- centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available. > There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air. You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things. How is that? > I would say the odds of finding limestone deposits to make cement > highly unlikely. You do know limestone is organically created, don't > you? You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on limestone, don’t you? [blathering about industrial mining snipped] > something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings > required to survive and do anything. If that’s how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly haven’t thought much about the problem. These are *your* straw men. > You will be lacking just about all usefull chemicals as most of > them come from petroleum, so no plastics. You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on plastics, don’t you? > You miss the point, it would take Star Trek technology to make it affordable. I don’t miss that point at all. I *made* that point when I questioned the proposed budget. But I am also making the point that it does *not* require magical technology if you don’t make the assumption that you’re going to live an Earth-styled life on such an inhospitable landscape. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-07 20:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bdritc-31s.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58007 |
In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote: > For your reference, records indicate that > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to >> a discussion of colonies. > > And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It’s always fun to see > people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-) > >> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars? > > All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about. > The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth- > centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available. I use economic thinking. It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs far more to extract than the gold is worth. >> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air. > > You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things. How is that? When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and air anywhere else than Earth? > >> I would say the odds of finding limestone deposits to make cement >> highly unlikely. You do know limestone is organically created, don't >> you? > > You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on > limestone, dont you? Yep, but modern civilizations are built with concrete and steel; before that it was wood. > [blathering about industrial mining snipped] > >> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings >> required to survive and do anything. > > If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly > havent thought much about the problem. These are *your* straw men. So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7? >> You will be lacking just about all usefull chemicals as most of >> them come from petroleum, so no plastics. > > You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on > plastics, dont you? Not modern ones with the advanced technology required to survive off the Earth. > >> You miss the point, it would take Star Trek technology to make it affordable. > > I dont miss that point at all. I *made* that point when I questioned > the proposed budget. But I am also making the point that it does *not* > require magical technology if you dont make the assumption that you’re > going to live an Earth-styled life on such an inhospitable landscape. > I have been talking about colonies, i.e. families and kids. A research station requires very little in terms of infrastructure, just constant resupply. It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently move to one. It is my opinion that off Earth research stations are of limited value and the cost and rewards of doing them should be balanced against sending swarms of robots throughout the solar system. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-07 14:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3jjdgb5vd9t9biee6hppr6r5knli3ia074@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58018 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>> For your reference, records indicate that
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to
>>> a discussion of colonies.
>>
>> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It’s always fun to see
>> people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-)
>>
>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars?
>>
>> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about.
>> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth-
>> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available.
>
>I use economic thinking.
>
No, you don't. Where did you get your degree in economics. They
should take it back.
>
>It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>far more to extract than the gold is worth.
>
Wrong. It's just that the same amount of money applied elsewhere gets
you more gold. And you claim to be engaging in 'economic thinking'?
You don't know the meaning of the phrase!
>>> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>>
>> You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things. How is that?
>
>When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
>air anywhere else than Earth?
>
They've announced there's free flowing water on Mars, water vapour in
the atmosphere, underground ices. You insist there aren't.
>>
>>> I would say the odds of finding limestone deposits to make cement
>>> highly unlikely. You do know limestone is organically created, don't
>>> you?
>>
>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on
>> limestone, dont you?
>
>Yep, but modern civilizations are built with concrete and steel; before
>that it was wood.
>
Haven't heard of 'rocks', 'caves', and 'holes' in your neck of the
woods?
>> [blathering about industrial mining snipped]
>>
>>> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings
>>> required to survive and do anything.
>>
>> If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly
>> havent thought much about the problem. These are *your* straw men.
>
>So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?
>
So you think you can't survive on the Moon with Pittsburgh?
>>> You will be lacking just about all usefull chemicals as most of
>>> them come from petroleum, so no plastics.
>>
>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on
>> plastics, dont you?
>
>Not modern ones with the advanced technology required to survive off
>the Earth.
>
Gee, something hasn't been done yet, so it is forever impossible. Back
to your cave, Chimp.
>>
>>> You miss the point, it would take Star Trek technology to make it affordable.
>>
>> I dont miss that point at all. I *made* that point when I questioned
>> the proposed budget. But I am also making the point that it does *not*
>> require magical technology if you dont make the assumption that you’re
>> going to live an Earth-styled life on such an inhospitable landscape.
>>
>
>I have been talking about colonies, i.e. families and kids.
>
>A research station requires very little in terms of infrastructure, just
>constant resupply.
>
Wrong. You see, this is the kind of error you make when you misapply
'economic thinking' from ignorance. First example, it's cheaper to
ship an automated rocket fuel factory to Mars to make fuel for the
return trip than it is to ship the fuel.
You really ought to read some of those papers I keep pointing you to.
It would keep you from sounding so stupidly ignorant.
>
>It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>move to one.
>
>It is my opinion that off Earth research stations are of limited value
>and the cost and rewards of doing them should be balanced against sending
>swarms of robots throughout the solar system.
>
If people aren't going, there's no point to "swarms of robots" so the
cost there is zero.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-07 22:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4jtc-41t.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58024 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote: >>> For your reference, records indicate that >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to >>>> a discussion of colonies. >>> >>> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It?s always fun to see >>> people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-) >>> >>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars? >>> >>> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about. >>> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth- >>> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available. >> >>I use economic thinking. >> > > No, you don't. Where did you get your degree in economics. They > should take it back. > >> >>It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs >>far more to extract than the gold is worth. >> > > Wrong. It's just that the same amount of money applied elsewhere gets > you more gold. And you claim to be engaging in 'economic thinking'? > You don't know the meaning of the phrase! Nope, the extraction cost exceeds the value. >>>> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air. >>> >>> You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things. How is that? >> >>When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and >>air anywhere else than Earth? >> > > They've announced there's free flowing water on Mars, water vapour in > the atmosphere, underground ices. You insist there aren't. That is not the same thing as forests, lakes and rivers, i.e. things you can stick a bucket in and fill it with drinkable water. >>>> I would say the odds of finding limestone deposits to make cement >>>> highly unlikely. You do know limestone is organically created, don't >>>> you? >>> >>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on >>> limestone, dont you? >> >>Yep, but modern civilizations are built with concrete and steel; before >>that it was wood. >> > > Haven't heard of 'rocks', 'caves', and 'holes' in your neck of the > woods? Sure but on Earth they don't need airlocks. >>> [blathering about industrial mining snipped] >>> >>>> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings >>>> required to survive and do anything. >>> >>> If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly >>> havent thought much about the problem. These are *your* straw men. >> >>So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized >>building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7? >> > > So you think you can't survive on the Moon with Pittsburgh? There go those voices in your head again. You really should see someone about that. >>>> You will be lacking just about all usefull chemicals as most of >>>> them come from petroleum, so no plastics. >>> >>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on >>> plastics, dont you? >> >>Not modern ones with the advanced technology required to survive off >>the Earth. >> > > Gee, something hasn't been done yet, so it is forever impossible. Back > to your cave, Chimp. There go those voices in your head again. You really should see someone about that. >>> >>>> You miss the point, it would take Star Trek technology to make it affordable. >>> >>> I dont miss that point at all. I *made* that point when I questioned >>> the proposed budget. But I am also making the point that it does *not* >>> require magical technology if you dont make the assumption that you?re >>> going to live an Earth-styled life on such an inhospitable landscape. >>> >> >>I have been talking about colonies, i.e. families and kids. >> >>A research station requires very little in terms of infrastructure, just >>constant resupply. >> > > Wrong. You see, this is the kind of error you make when you misapply > 'economic thinking' from ignorance. First example, it's cheaper to > ship an automated rocket fuel factory to Mars to make fuel for the > return trip than it is to ship the fuel. Which has nothing to do with supplying those kids with diapers and baby bottles. > You really ought to read some of those papers I keep pointing you to. > It would keep you from sounding so stupidly ignorant. > >> >>It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much >>for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently >>move to one. >> >>It is my opinion that off Earth research stations are of limited value >>and the cost and rewards of doing them should be balanced against sending >>swarms of robots throughout the solar system. >> > > If people aren't going, there's no point to "swarms of robots" so the > cost there is zero. The point to swarms of robots is scientific research. Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker in a Martian bar just like in the movies. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-08 01:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <u7qegbdl995jc6lta3tia1ut8sf2hnvbh2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58026 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>> For your reference, records indicate that
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to
>>>>> a discussion of colonies.
>>>>
>>>> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It?s always fun to see
>>>> people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-)
>>>>
>>>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars?
>>>>
>>>> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about.
>>>> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth-
>>>> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available.
>>>
>>>I use economic thinking.
>>>
>>
>> No, you don't. Where did you get your degree in economics. They
>> should take it back.
>>
>>>
>>>It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>>>far more to extract than the gold is worth.
>>>
>>
>> Wrong. It's just that the same amount of money applied elsewhere gets
>> you more gold. And you claim to be engaging in 'economic thinking'?
>> You don't know the meaning of the phrase!
>
>Nope, the extraction cost exceeds the value.
>
OK, I'll give you that one (at current prices).
>>>>> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things. How is that?
>>>
>>>When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
>>>air anywhere else than Earth?
>>>
>>
>> They've announced there's free flowing water on Mars, water vapour in
>> the atmosphere, underground ices. You insist there aren't.
>
>That is not the same thing as forests, lakes and rivers, i.e. things
>you can stick a bucket in and fill it with drinkable water.
>
Who said anything about "forests, lakes and rivers"? You said
(elsewhere) that subsurface ices were unproven and only MIGHT exist.
>>>>> I would say the odds of finding limestone deposits to make cement
>>>>> highly unlikely. You do know limestone is organically created, don't
>>>>> you?
>>>>
>>>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on
>>>> limestone, dont you?
>>>
>>>Yep, but modern civilizations are built with concrete and steel; before
>>>that it was wood.
>>>
>>
>> Haven't heard of 'rocks', 'caves', and 'holes' in your neck of the
>> woods?
>
>Sure but on Earth they don't need airlocks.
>
So what?
>>>> [blathering about industrial mining snipped]
>>>>
>>>>> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings
>>>>> required to survive and do anything.
>>>>
>>>> If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly
>>>> havent thought much about the problem. These are *your* straw men.
>>>
>>>So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>>>building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?
>>>
>>
>> So you think you can't survive on the Moon with Pittsburgh?
>
>There go those voices in your head again. You really should see
>someone about that.
>
Yet elsewhere you've said it "will take more than Pittsburgh". Do you
always lie, or is this a special topic for you?
[My experience with you is that you always lie.]
>>>>> You will be lacking just about all usefull chemicals as most of
>>>>> them come from petroleum, so no plastics.
>>>>
>>>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on
>>>> plastics, dont you?
>>>
>>>Not modern ones with the advanced technology required to survive off
>>>the Earth.
>>>
>>
>> Gee, something hasn't been done yet, so it is forever impossible. Back
>> to your cave, Chimp.
>
>There go those voices in your head again. You really should see
>someone about that.
>
There you go shucking and jiving again. You really should see someone
about that.
>>>>
>>>>> You miss the point, it would take Star Trek technology to make it affordable.
>>>>
>>>> I dont miss that point at all. I *made* that point when I questioned
>>>> the proposed budget. But I am also making the point that it does *not*
>>>> require magical technology if you dont make the assumption that you?re
>>>> going to live an Earth-styled life on such an inhospitable landscape.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I have been talking about colonies, i.e. families and kids.
>>>
>>>A research station requires very little in terms of infrastructure, just
>>>constant resupply.
>>>
>>
>> Wrong. You see, this is the kind of error you make when you misapply
>> 'economic thinking' from ignorance. First example, it's cheaper to
>> ship an automated rocket fuel factory to Mars to make fuel for the
>> return trip than it is to ship the fuel.
>
>Which has nothing to do with supplying those kids with diapers and
>baby bottles.
>
Colonies on Earth in the 15th Century didn't provide diapers and baby
bottles.
>> You really ought to read some of those papers I keep pointing you to.
>> It would keep you from sounding so stupidly ignorant.
>>
>>>
>>>It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>>>for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>>>move to one.
>>>
>>>It is my opinion that off Earth research stations are of limited value
>>>and the cost and rewards of doing them should be balanced against sending
>>>swarms of robots throughout the solar system.
>>>
>>
>> If people aren't going, there's no point to "swarms of robots" so the
>> cost there is zero.
>
>The point to swarms of robots is scientific research.
>
So no point unless people are going.
>
>Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker
>in a Martian bar just like in the movies.
>
Your point seems to be that your delusions about people are 'true'.
They aren't. You're just stupid.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-08 18:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s5bltc-637.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58033 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote: >>>>> For your reference, records indicate that >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to >>>>>> a discussion of colonies. >>>>> >>>>> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It?s always fun to see >>>>> people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-) >>>>> >>>>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars? >>>>> >>>>> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about. >>>>> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth- >>>>> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available. >>>> >>>>I use economic thinking. >>>> >>> >>> No, you don't. Where did you get your degree in economics. They >>> should take it back. >>> >>>> >>>>It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs >>>>far more to extract than the gold is worth. >>>> >>> >>> Wrong. It's just that the same amount of money applied elsewhere gets >>> you more gold. And you claim to be engaging in 'economic thinking'? >>> You don't know the meaning of the phrase! >> >>Nope, the extraction cost exceeds the value. >> > > OK, I'll give you that one (at current prices). And if you do find something of great value off planet, the increased supply will depress the market so that is no magic bullet either. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-08 13:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9h4ggbtjnt9nghucnnnfdn1obiguq6f0o1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58041 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to
>>>>>>> a discussion of colonies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It?s always fun to see
>>>>>> people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about.
>>>>>> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth-
>>>>>> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available.
>>>>>
>>>>>I use economic thinking.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, you don't. Where did you get your degree in economics. They
>>>> should take it back.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>>>>>far more to extract than the gold is worth.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. It's just that the same amount of money applied elsewhere gets
>>>> you more gold. And you claim to be engaging in 'economic thinking'?
>>>> You don't know the meaning of the phrase!
>>>
>>>Nope, the extraction cost exceeds the value.
>>>
>>
>> OK, I'll give you that one (at current prices).
>>
>
>And if you do find something of great value off planet, the increased
>supply will depress the market so that is no magic bullet either.
>
So the only source of ROI so far as you're concerned is raw materials?
That's just a little stupid, Chimp.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-08 23:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4fqltc-fb8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58050 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote: >>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to >>>>>>>> a discussion of colonies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It?s always fun to see >>>>>>> people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about. >>>>>>> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth- >>>>>>> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available. >>>>>> >>>>>>I use economic thinking. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No, you don't. Where did you get your degree in economics. They >>>>> should take it back. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs >>>>>>far more to extract than the gold is worth. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wrong. It's just that the same amount of money applied elsewhere gets >>>>> you more gold. And you claim to be engaging in 'economic thinking'? >>>>> You don't know the meaning of the phrase! >>>> >>>>Nope, the extraction cost exceeds the value. >>>> >>> >>> OK, I'll give you that one (at current prices). >>> >> >>And if you do find something of great value off planet, the increased >>supply will depress the market so that is no magic bullet either. >> > > So the only source of ROI so far as you're concerned is raw materials? > That's just a little stupid, Chimp. Nope, there is also raw stock and finished goods but I doubt Mars could compete with China. I know for sure they won't be able to compete with Japan on plywood. Martian mink fur? Martian saffron? Martian woven rugs? Don't forget shipping costs. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-08 05:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0147cfc3ba5568d-81b87@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #58026 |
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 10:43:48PM -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > > >>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote: > >>> For your reference, records indicate that > >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> As Antarctica has never had any colonies, Antarctica is irrelevant to > >>>> a discussion of colonies. > >>> > >>> And yet *you* were the one who brought it up. It?s always fun to see > >>> people attacking their own straw man arguments! :-) > >>> > >>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars? > >>> > >>> All the ones we know about, and all the ones we *dont yet* know about. > >>> The main problem with your thinking is that you seem to use Earth- > >>> centric thinking when evaluating the resources that are available. > >> > >>I use economic thinking. > >> > > > > No, you don't. Where did you get your degree in economics. They > > should take it back. > > > >> > >>It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs > >>far more to extract than the gold is worth. > >> > > > > Wrong. It's just that the same amount of money applied elsewhere gets > > you more gold. And you claim to be engaging in 'economic thinking'? > > You don't know the meaning of the phrase! > > Nope, the extraction cost exceeds the value. > > >>>> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air. > >>> > >>> You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things. How is that? > >> > >>When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and > >>air anywhere else than Earth? > >> > > > > They've announced there's free flowing water on Mars, water vapour in > > the atmosphere, underground ices. You insist there aren't. > > That is not the same thing as forests, lakes and rivers, i.e. things > you can stick a bucket in and fill it with drinkable water. > > >>>> I would say the odds of finding limestone deposits to make cement > >>>> highly unlikely. You do know limestone is organically created, don't > >>>> you? > >>> > >>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on > >>> limestone, dont you? > >> > >>Yep, but modern civilizations are built with concrete and steel; before > >>that it was wood. > >> > > > > Haven't heard of 'rocks', 'caves', and 'holes' in your neck of the > > woods? > > Sure but on Earth they don't need airlocks. > > >>> [blathering about industrial mining snipped] > >>> > >>>> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings > >>>> required to survive and do anything. > >>> > >>> If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly > >>> havent thought much about the problem. These are *your* straw men. > >> > >>So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized > >>building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7? > >> > > > > So you think you can't survive on the Moon with Pittsburgh? > > There go those voices in your head again. You really should see > someone about that. > > >>>> You will be lacking just about all usefull chemicals as most of > >>>> them come from petroleum, so no plastics. > >>> > >>> You do know that civilizations have been built without relying on > >>> plastics, dont you? > >> > >>Not modern ones with the advanced technology required to survive off > >>the Earth. > >> > > > > Gee, something hasn't been done yet, so it is forever impossible. Back > > to your cave, Chimp. > > There go those voices in your head again. You really should see > someone about that. > > >>> > >>>> You miss the point, it would take Star Trek technology to make it affordable. > >>> > >>> I dont miss that point at all. I *made* that point when I questioned > >>> the proposed budget. But I am also making the point that it does *not* > >>> require magical technology if you dont make the assumption that you?re > >>> going to live an Earth-styled life on such an inhospitable landscape. > >>> > >> > >>I have been talking about colonies, i.e. families and kids. > >> > >>A research station requires very little in terms of infrastructure, just > >>constant resupply. > >> > > > > Wrong. You see, this is the kind of error you make when you misapply > > 'economic thinking' from ignorance. First example, it's cheaper to > > ship an automated rocket fuel factory to Mars to make fuel for the > > return trip than it is to ship the fuel. > > Which has nothing to do with supplying those kids with diapers and > baby bottles. > > > You really ought to read some of those papers I keep pointing you to. > > It would keep you from sounding so stupidly ignorant. > > > >> > >>It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much > >>for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently > >>move to one. > >> > >>It is my opinion that off Earth research stations are of limited value > >>and the cost and rewards of doing them should be balanced against sending > >>swarms of robots throughout the solar system. > >> > > > > If people aren't going, there's no point to "swarms of robots" so the > > cost there is zero. > > The point to swarms of robots is scientific research. > > Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker > in a Martian bar just like in the movies. Fred is more of a "what happens on Mars, stays on Mars" sort of fella. He would love an environment free from the all the stupid rules he has to follow. No lawyers, no courts, no oversight, just a wide-open horizon of possibilities as far as he can see. -- These retarded Potemkin Village newsgroups with their population of corrupt police-state collaborators and useful idiots loudly calls for a sharp neo-stalinist pogrom to rid the world of all those who knowingly participate and as well to deal with those who are ultimately responsible for creating it.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-09 06:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <osjmtc-mua.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58070 |
In sci.physics Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 10:43:48PM -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker >> in a Martian bar just like in the movies. > > Fred is more of a "what happens on Mars, stays on Mars" sort of fella. > He would love an environment free from the all the stupid rules he has > to follow. No lawyers, no courts, no oversight, just a wide-open > horizon of possibilities as far as he can see. In a setting where a multitude of high tech systems needs to be constantly monitored and maintained to survive more than a few minutes, I think the societal structure would be more like a miltary post than a hippy love in. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-09 08:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6a6igb91mre70lp1to9u8lkianm8igq6ve@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58077 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >In sci.physics Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 10:43:48PM -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > >>> Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker >>> in a Martian bar just like in the movies. >> >> Fred is more of a "what happens on Mars, stays on Mars" sort of fella. >> He would love an environment free from the all the stupid rules he has >> to follow. No lawyers, no courts, no oversight, just a wide-open >> horizon of possibilities as far as he can see. > >In a setting where a multitude of high tech systems needs to be constantly >monitored and maintained to survive more than a few minutes, I think the >societal structure would be more like a miltary post than a hippy love in. > So you think our current society, where a multitude of high tech systems needs to be constantly monitored and maintained to survive more than a few minutes, has a societal structure like a military post? Wow. Just wow. It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted with facts you insist they're not true. Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp... -- You are What you do When it counts.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-09 18:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5ovntc-2gf.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58087 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 10:43:48PM -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >> >>>> Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker >>>> in a Martian bar just like in the movies. >>> >>> Fred is more of a "what happens on Mars, stays on Mars" sort of fella. >>> He would love an environment free from the all the stupid rules he has >>> to follow. No lawyers, no courts, no oversight, just a wide-open >>> horizon of possibilities as far as he can see. >> >>In a setting where a multitude of high tech systems needs to be constantly >>monitored and maintained to survive more than a few minutes, I think the >>societal structure would be more like a miltary post than a hippy love in. >> > > So you think our current society, where a multitude of high tech > systems needs to be constantly monitored and maintained to survive > more than a few minutes, has a societal structure like a military > post? Wow. Just wow. Last I looked there was a more than adequate supply of air on Earth, space cadet. Or are you one of those people that can't survive more than a few minutes without their iPhone? > It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just > like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and > you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted > with facts you insist they're not true. I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character Steve Martin plays in his comedy act. > Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp... Again, hangar, no cave space cadet. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-09 13:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n5oigbdgu7qh7j8jj8t4to3vmk4hh3qlll@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58103 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 10:43:48PM -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker
>>>>> in a Martian bar just like in the movies.
>>>>
>>>> Fred is more of a "what happens on Mars, stays on Mars" sort of fella.
>>>> He would love an environment free from the all the stupid rules he has
>>>> to follow. No lawyers, no courts, no oversight, just a wide-open
>>>> horizon of possibilities as far as he can see.
>>>
>>>In a setting where a multitude of high tech systems needs to be constantly
>>>monitored and maintained to survive more than a few minutes, I think the
>>>societal structure would be more like a miltary post than a hippy love in.
>>>
>>
>> So you think our current society, where a multitude of high tech
>> systems needs to be constantly monitored and maintained to survive
>> more than a few minutes, has a societal structure like a military
>> post? Wow. Just wow.
>
>Last I looked there was a more than adequate supply of air on Earth,
>space cadet.
>
>Or are you one of those people that can't survive more than a few minutes
>without their iPhone?
>
Water goes down. What do you do? Without outside supply you have
less than a day before you die of dehydration.
Food into New York City goes down. What do you do? Without resupply
you have a week before you starve to death.
Rule of thumb, bucko. Six minutes without air, six hours without
water, six days without food...
[You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>
>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>
>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>
>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>
Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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