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  Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 11:32 -0800
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 13:44 -0600
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-10 20:57 +0000
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-10 21:45 +0000
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-11 03:12 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-11 04:15 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:39 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-12-12 20:00 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2016-12-12 20:00 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 13:14 -0700
                  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-12 20:54 +0000
                    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-12 16:10 -0800
                      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-12 16:29 -0800
                      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 20:41 -0700
                        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 19:46 -0800
                          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-12-13 04:14 +0000
                          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 06:48 -0600
                            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 05:12 -0800
                              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 05:18 -0800
                              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 14:23 +0000
                              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 21:00 -0600
                                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 19:33 -0800
                            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-13 12:16 -0800
                        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 03:57 -0800
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 04:48 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2016-12-11 00:25 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 13:39 +0000
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-11 17:45 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-12 14:16 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-12 23:22 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-12 15:40 -0800
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-11 10:49 -0800
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 22:33 +0000
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:20 -0500
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-11 17:07 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-11 17:31 -0500
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-12 04:24 +0000
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-12 04:26 -0700
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-12-10 21:23 +0000
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:04 -0500
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 18:24 -0600
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:29 -0500
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-12 04:32 -0700
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 06:51 -0500
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-12-12 12:55 -0500
                  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-12 13:00 -0500
                    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-12 18:05 +0000
                    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-12-12 12:07 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-12 12:26 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-11 09:29 -0600
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 20:50 -0600
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-10 20:36 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:03 -0500
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-11 00:48 +0000
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-10 14:23 -0700
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 19:12 -0500
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-10 19:18 -0500
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-12-10 22:48 +0000
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 16:46 -0800
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 17:15 -0800
    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It eichlerSPAMBGONE2@comcastsucksbecausetheydontsupportuse.net (Bice) - 2016-12-12 18:38 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-12 15:48 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 03:21 +0000
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It eichlerSPAMBGONE2@comcastsucksbecausetheydontsupportuse.net (Bice) - 2016-12-13 22:12 +0000
      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It 103134.3516@compuserve.com - 2016-12-13 09:51 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 11:01 -0800
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 19:19 +0000
            The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-13 13:05 -0700
              Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-13 15:57 -0500
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 21:57 +0000
                  Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 15:28 -0800
                    Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 23:38 +0000
                      Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-12-13 16:23 -0800
                        Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-14 01:35 +0000
                    Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-14 00:05 -0800
                Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-13 15:49 -0700
                  Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 16:54 -0800
                    Re: The Dead Past and other stories where the author's message wasn't received. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-12-13 20:13 -0500
            Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 13:02 -0800
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-12-13 21:11 +0000
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:48 -0800
                  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 18:02 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 13:51 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:56 -0800
                Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:04 +0000
                  Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-12-13 22:37 +0000
                    Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 23:42 +0000
                      Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-13 19:07 -0500
                        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-14 01:38 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-13 22:00 +0000
              Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-13 21:10 -0600
          Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-13 13:41 -0800
        Re: Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-12-13 22:22 -0700

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#459363 — Generic YASID: It's The End Of The World As We Know It And We All Know It

  How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.

  What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit, I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the asteroid coming or whatever.

  I was inspired to ask by this video:

hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M

TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.

  I suggest watching it anyway; it's either blood-chilling or amusing depending on your POV.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#459364

"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com: 

>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone. 
> 
>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>   asteroid coming or whatever. 
> 
>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
> 
> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
> 
> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct. 

>   I suggest watching it anyway; it's either blood-chilling or amusing
>   depending on your POV. 


On the Beach
SevenEves
The Forge of God

immediately spring to mind.

I don't think Lynn's prepper porn counts.

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#459372

Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>
>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>
>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>
>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>
>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>
>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>
>>   I suggest watching it anyway; it's either blood-chilling or amusing
>>   depending on your POV.
>
>
> On the Beach
> SevenEves
> The Forge of God
>
> immediately spring to mind.
>
> I don't think Lynn's prepper porn counts.

Does _Lucifer's Hammer_ (Niven/Pournelle) count?

Have a serving of prepper porn, if you please. :0)

https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/post-shtf-shopping-trip.jpg
https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/and-so-it-starts.jpg
https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/will-take-that-bet.jpg

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving
peace. - George Washington

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#459376

In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>
>Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>
>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>
>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>
>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>
>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>
>>>   I suggest watching it anyway; it's either blood-chilling or amusing
>>>   depending on your POV.
>>
>>
>> On the Beach
>> SevenEves
>> The Forge of God
>>
>> immediately spring to mind.
>>
>> I don't think Lynn's prepper porn counts.
>
>Does _Lucifer's Hammer_ (Niven/Pournelle) count?
>
>Have a serving of prepper porn, if you please. :0)
>
>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/post-shtf-shopping-trip.jpg
>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/and-so-it-starts.jpg
>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/will-take-that-bet.jpg

For that kind of thinking, _Farnham's Freehold._  I disliked most
of that book intensely, but the emergency packing lists were
interesting.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#459400

Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>
>>Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>
>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>
>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>
>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>
>>>>   I suggest watching it anyway; it's either blood-chilling or amusing
>>>>   depending on your POV.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the Beach
>>> SevenEves
>>> The Forge of God
>>>
>>> immediately spring to mind.
>>>
>>> I don't think Lynn's prepper porn counts.
>>
>>Does _Lucifer's Hammer_ (Niven/Pournelle) count?
>>
>>Have a serving of prepper porn, if you please. :0)
>>
>>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/post-shtf-shopping-trip.jpg
>>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/and-so-it-starts.jpg
>>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/will-take-that-bet.jpg
>
> For that kind of thinking, _Farnham's Freehold._  I disliked most
> of that book intensely, but the emergency packing lists were
> interesting.

Another reviewer [1] says about the same thing.

    It's weird how technical and seemingly realistic Farnham's
    Freehold becomes when it\xe2\x80\x99s about bomb shelters and logistics.
    Especially considering how unrealistic the novel is when it
    comes to its characters and world-building.

"The Last Night of the World" (Bradbury) is yet another story that
meets the OP's criteria, with a plot twist at the end.

Note.

1. https://warisboring.com/how-not-to-write-about-atomic-war-e1632a6a19e8

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

This is the last of earth! I am content. - John Quincy Adams

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#459404

Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>
> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>>
>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>>
>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>>
>>>>>   I suggest watching it anyway; it's either blood-chilling or amusing
>>>>>   depending on your POV.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the Beach
>>>> SevenEves
>>>> The Forge of God
>>>>
>>>> immediately spring to mind.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think Lynn's prepper porn counts.
>>>
>>>
>>>Does _Lucifer's Hammer_ (Niven/Pournelle) count?
>>>
>>>Have a serving of prepper porn, if you please. :0)
>>>
>>>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/post-shtf-shopping-trip.jpg
>>>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/and-so-it-starts.jpg
>>>https://tensmiths.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/will-take-that-bet.jpg
>>
>> For that kind of thinking, _Farnham's Freehold._  I disliked most
>> of that book intensely, but the emergency packing lists were
>> interesting.
>
> Another reviewer [1] says about the same thing.
>
>    It's weird how technical and seemingly realistic Farnham's
>    Freehold becomes when it's about bomb shelters and logistics.
>    Especially considering how unrealistic the novel is when it
>    comes to its characters and world-building.
>
> "The Last Night of the World" (Bradbury) is yet another story that
> meets the OP's criteria, with a plot twist at the end.
>
> Note.
>
> 1. https://warisboring.com/how-not-to-write-about-atomic-war-e1632a6a19e8

In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
_Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.

        "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
    has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
        "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
        "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
    flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
    button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
        "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
    can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
    button?"
        "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
    let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
    that way."
        "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
    preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
        "Of course."

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

[To Ptolemy I:] There is no royal road to geometry. - Euclid

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#459445

In article <20161210c@crcomp.net>,
Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> said:

> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to
> one man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
>
>        "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>    has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>        "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>        "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>    flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>    button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>        "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>    can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>    button?"
>        "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>    let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>    that way."
>        "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>    preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>        "Of course."

Further proof, if any were needed, that Kurt Vonnegut _deserved_
Geraldo Rivera as a son-in-law.

-- wds

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#459517

William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <20161210c@crcomp.net>,
> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> said:
> 
>> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
>> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to
>> one man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
>>
>>        "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>>    has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>>        "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>>        "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>>    flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>>    button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>>        "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>>    can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>>    button?"
>>        "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>>    let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>>    that way."
>>        "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>>    preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>>        "Of course."
> 
> Further proof, if any were needed, that Kurt Vonnegut _deserved_
> Geraldo Rivera as a son-in-law.


I Did Not Know That[tm].  Thanks.
- Tony

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#459516

Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
> 
> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>>>
>>>>> 

<some snippage>

> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
> man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
> 
>         "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>     has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>         "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>         "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>     flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>     button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>         "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>     can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>     button?"
>         "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>     let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>     that way."
>         "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>     preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>         "Of course."


Speaking of Vonnegut, would Cat's Cradle fit?  Though it was
mostly off-stage, it seems to me the world knew it was coming
and could do nothing about it.

ACC's Childhood's End feels like it doesn't fit, but I'll mention
it for other people's consideration.

Tony

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#459520

On 12/12/2016 1:00 PM, Anthony Nance wrote:
> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>
>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
> <some snippage>
>
>> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
>> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
>> man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
>>
>>         "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>>     has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>>         "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>>         "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>>     flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>>     button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>>         "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>>     can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>>     button?"
>>         "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>>     let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>>     that way."
>>         "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>>     preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>>         "Of course."
>
>
> Speaking of Vonnegut, would Cat's Cradle fit?  Though it was
> mostly off-stage, it seems to me the world knew it was coming
> and could do nothing about it.
>
> ACC's Childhood's End feels like it doesn't fit, but I'll mention
> it for other people's consideration.
>
> Tony
>

It is a situation where after a certain point humanity knows that it is 
facing inevitable extinction and react with predictable despair.  It fits.

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#459523

David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 12/12/2016 1:00 PM, Anthony Nance wrote:
>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>> <some snippage>
>>
>>> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
>>> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
>>> man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
>>>
>>>         "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>>>     has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>>>         "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>>>         "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>>>     flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>>>     button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>>>         "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>>>     can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>>>     button?"
>>>         "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>>>     let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>>>     that way."
>>>         "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>>>     preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>>>         "Of course."
>>
>>
>> Speaking of Vonnegut, would Cat's Cradle fit?  Though it was
>> mostly off-stage, it seems to me the world knew it was coming
>> and could do nothing about it.
>>
>> ACC's Childhood's End feels like it doesn't fit, but I'll mention
>> it for other people's consideration.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>
> It is a situation where after a certain point humanity knows that it is
> facing inevitable extinction and react with predictable despair.  It fits.

If _Cat's Cradle_ fits, there's also "The Catalyst" (Yohe).

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

Trust not one night's ice. - Herbert

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#459543

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:55:54 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
> David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On 12/12/2016 1:00 PM, Anthony Nance wrote:
> >> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> >>>>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
> >>>>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
> >>>>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
> >>>>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
> >>>>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
> >>>>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
> >>>>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
> >>>>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
> >>>>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
> >>>>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >> <some snippage>
> >>
> >>> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
> >>> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
> >>> man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
> >>>
> >>>         "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
> >>>     has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
> >>>         "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
> >>>         "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
> >>>     flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
> >>>     button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
> >>>         "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
> >>>     can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
> >>>     button?"
> >>>         "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
> >>>     let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
> >>>     that way."
> >>>         "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
> >>>     preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
> >>>         "Of course."
> >>
> >>
> >> Speaking of Vonnegut, would Cat's Cradle fit?  Though it was
> >> mostly off-stage, it seems to me the world knew it was coming
> >> and could do nothing about it.
> >>
> >> ACC's Childhood's End feels like it doesn't fit, but I'll mention
> >> it for other people's consideration.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >
> > It is a situation where after a certain point humanity knows that it is
> > facing inevitable extinction and react with predictable despair.  It fits.
> 
> If _Cat's Cradle_ fits, there's also "The Catalyst" (Yohe).
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 

"When Worlds Collide" by Wylie and Balmer, and the sequel, "After Worlds 
Collide" spawned the film, which I caught just about every time it was
shown on NY area TV when I was a kid.  But the first "Earth's going to
get smacked by an asteroid and we are all doomed" story I remember 
encountering was, perhaps, the best and most sfnal episode of "The
Adventures of Superman" on TV - "Panic In The Sky!"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0506583/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt

In short, the Man of Tomorrow only partially succeeds in deflecting
a rogue asteroid.  It winds up in an unstable orbit around Terra, 
and our favorite Kryptonian immigrant winds up with a case of temporary
amnesia, from some combination of the terrific impact with which
he smacked the wandering rock, or exposure to unknown elements on it, 
possibly Kryptonite. The TV show never used "red kryptonite," and if 
this ep had been in color, like some of the later ones, it would have 
been a good idea to import that from the comics.

Decent acting from George Reeves as the confused "Clark Kent,"
and the best effects the producers ever sprang for, made this
an highlight of the series.

Kevin R

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#459545

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:10:52 PM UTC-5, Kevrob wrote:

> "When Worlds Collide" by Wylie and Balmer, and the sequel, "After Worlds 
> Collide" spawned the film, which I caught just about every time it was
> shown on NY area TV when I was a kid.  But the first "Earth's going to
> get smacked by an asteroid and we are all doomed" story I remember 
> encountering was, perhaps, the best and most sfnal episode of "The
> Adventures of Superman" on TV - "Panic In The Sky!"
> 
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0506583/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt

Concurrently with the TV episode, a different version of the Superman
v Asteroid story was published in WORLD'S FINEST COMICS #68, JAN-FEB
1954: "Menace From The Stars!"  (published in late 1953)

Kevin R

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#459564

On 12/12/2016 5:10 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:55:54 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
>> David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2016 1:00 PM, Anthony Nance wrote:
>>>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <20161210a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:f6633721-3875-473e-bb57-5f5fca9d00dd@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   How much SF has been written about how The World Will End in X Time
>>>>>>>>>>   And There's Nothing We Can Do About It, and the public knows it? The
>>>>>>>>>>   standard trope is "We can't let this go public or there will be
>>>>>>>>>>   widespread panic", but there must be some in which it *has* gotten
>>>>>>>>>>   out and various people deal with that certainty in various ways. I
>>>>>>>>>>   can think of a few but I don't want to constrain anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   What I don't mean is "weak" dystopian stuff like _FROOMB_ which
>>>>>>>>>>   presents a sort of pervasive sense that things are turning to shit,
>>>>>>>>>>   I mean the Vogons have made their announcement or we can see the
>>>>>>>>>>   asteroid coming or whatever.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   I was inspired to ask by this video:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIt93dDG1M
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TL;DNW: a professor emeritus from the University of Arizona says it's
>>>>>>>>>> Game Over, that humanity has less than ten years before we go extinct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <some snippage>
>>>>
>>>>> In yet another permutation of a tangent on the OP's request,
>>>>> _Slaughterhouse-Five_ (Vonnegut) reveals the end of the world to one
>>>>> man. He faces it in a Zen-like manner.
>>>>>
>>>>>         "We know how the Universe ends," said the guide, "and Earth
>>>>>     has nothing to do with it, except that it gets wiped out, too."
>>>>>         "How-how does the Universe end?" said Billy.
>>>>>         "We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our
>>>>>     flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter
>>>>>     button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.
>>>>>         "If You know this," said Billy, "isn"t there some way you
>>>>>     can prevent it? Can"t you keep the pilot from pressing the
>>>>>     button?"
>>>>>         "He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always
>>>>>     let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured
>>>>>     that way."
>>>>>         "So," said Billy gropingly, I suppose that the idea of,
>>>>>     preventing war on Earth is stupid, too."
>>>>>         "Of course."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of Vonnegut, would Cat's Cradle fit?  Though it was
>>>> mostly off-stage, it seems to me the world knew it was coming
>>>> and could do nothing about it.
>>>>
>>>> ACC's Childhood's End feels like it doesn't fit, but I'll mention
>>>> it for other people's consideration.
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is a situation where after a certain point humanity knows that it is
>>> facing inevitable extinction and react with predictable despair.  It fits.
>>
>> If _Cat's Cradle_ fits, there's also "The Catalyst" (Yohe).
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>
> "When Worlds Collide" by Wylie and Balmer, and the sequel, "After Worlds
> Collide" spawned the film, which I caught just about every time it was
> shown on NY area TV when I was a kid.  But the first "Earth's going to
> get smacked by an asteroid and we are all doomed" story I remember
> encountering was, perhaps, the best and most sfnal episode of "The
> Adventures of Superman" on TV - "Panic In The Sky!"
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0506583/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt
>
> In short, the Man of Tomorrow only partially succeeds in deflecting
> a rogue asteroid.  It winds up in an unstable orbit around Terra,
> and our favorite Kryptonian immigrant winds up with a case of temporary
> amnesia, from some combination of the terrific impact with which
> he smacked the wandering rock, or exposure to unknown elements on it,
> possibly Kryptonite. The TV show never used "red kryptonite," and if
> this ep had been in color, like some of the later ones, it would have
> been a good idea to import that from the comics.

Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.

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#459569

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:41:05 PM UTC+11, David Johnston wrote:

> Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
> that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.

I was always curious how they found out what Gold Kryptonite did...

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#459573

In article <31d3e8bd-e81a-4322-9fd8-450b5d9a2a93@googlegroups.com>,
 <hamish.laws@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:41:05 PM UTC+11, David Johnston wrote:
>
>> Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
>> that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.
>
>I was always curious how they found out what Gold Kryptonite did...

The first person to suffer its effects was an escaped Phantom Zone
criminal.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          |           "You do it.  I'm bitter."
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goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |                  -- MST3K

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#459593

On 2016-12-13, hamish.laws@gmail.com <hamish.laws@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:41:05 PM UTC+11, David Johnston wrote:
>> Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
>> that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.
>
> I was always curious how they found out what Gold Kryptonite did...

In the Silver Age, there were hundreds, if not thousands, of Kryptonians
available to use as test monkeys. Besides Kal, Kara, and Krypto, there were
dozens of Phantom Zone villians, some of which might even have deserved
de-powering... and of course the bottle city of Kandor, which has GOT to be
one of the most surreal plot ingredients in that eschatology.

Dave, especially since (pauses to check wikipedia) Clark & Jimmy Olsen had
 secret identities as super(science)heroes Nightwing and Flamebird _inside_
 said bottle city. NOT MAKING THIS UP
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#459597

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:48:47 AM UTC-5, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-12-13, hamish.laws@gmail.com <hamish.laws@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:41:05 PM UTC+11, David Johnston wrote:
> >> Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
> >> that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.
> >
> > I was always curious how they found out what Gold Kryptonite did...
> 
> In the Silver Age, there were hundreds, if not thousands, of Kryptonians
> available to use as test monkeys. Besides Kal, Kara, and Krypto, there were
> dozens of Phantom Zone villians, some of which might even have deserved
> de-powering... and of course the bottle city of Kandor, which has GOT to be
> one of the most surreal plot ingredients in that eschatology.

...ITYM 'in that mythology'

> Dave, especially since (pauses to check wikipedia) Clark & Jimmy Olsen had
>  secret identities as super(science)heroes Nightwing and Flamebird _inside_
>  said bottle city. NOT MAKING THIS UP

weird

pt

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#459598

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 8:12:13 AM UTC-5, Peter Trei wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:48:47 AM UTC-5, David DeLaney wrote:
> > On 2016-12-13, hamish.laws@gmail.com <hamish.laws@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:41:05 PM UTC+11, David Johnston wrote:
> > >> Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
> > >> that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.
> > >
> > > I was always curious how they found out what Gold Kryptonite did...
> > 
> > In the Silver Age, there were hundreds, if not thousands, of Kryptonians
> > available to use as test monkeys. Besides Kal, Kara, and Krypto, there were
> > dozens of Phantom Zone villians, some of which might even have deserved
> > de-powering... and of course the bottle city of Kandor, which has GOT to be
> > one of the most surreal plot ingredients in that eschatology.
> 
> ...ITYM 'in that mythology'
> 

For us,it was a mythology.  In story,for Krypton, it was eschatology. :)

> > Dave, especially since (pauses to check wikipedia) Clark & Jimmy Olsen had
> >  secret identities as super(science)heroes Nightwing and Flamebird _inside_
> >  said bottle city. NOT MAKING THIS UP
> 

Nitpick: Nightwing was Kal-el's Kandorian Secret ID, not "Clark's."

> weird
> 

That's where Dick (Robin) Grayson got his code name when he
went solo and changed his costume.

Kevin R

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#459599

In article <957f78fd-2381-4644-af0c-9122371ead99@googlegroups.com>,
Peter Trei  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:48:47 AM UTC-5, David DeLaney wrote:
>> On 2016-12-13, hamish.laws@gmail.com <hamish.laws@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:41:05 PM UTC+11, David Johnston wrote:
>> >> Except that the comics only started to use Red Kryptonite 6 years after 
>> >> that episode.  The Kryptonite rainbow was Silver Age wackiness.
>> >
>> > I was always curious how they found out what Gold Kryptonite did...
>> 
>> In the Silver Age, there were hundreds, if not thousands, of Kryptonians
>> available to use as test monkeys. Besides Kal, Kara, and Krypto, there were
>> dozens of Phantom Zone villians, some of which might even have deserved
>> de-powering... and of course the bottle city of Kandor, which has GOT to be
>> one of the most surreal plot ingredients in that eschatology.
>
>...ITYM 'in that mythology'

But it's all mythology, is it not?

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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