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  _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-03-09 19:06 -0600
    Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:56 -0500
      Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-03-09 19:27 -0800
      Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-03-09 21:41 -0600
        Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron -dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> - 2016-03-11 11:58 -0500
          Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-03-11 15:02 -0600
          Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-11 13:19 -0800
            Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-03-11 15:24 -0600
            Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 13:42 -0800
              Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-03-11 14:23 -0800
            Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-03-11 17:18 -0600
              Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 15:21 -0700
          Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2016-03-11 23:56 +0000
      Re: _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 15:25 -0700

#435124 — _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron

_Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron
    http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp/1468079158/

Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade paperback format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the other 
two books in the trilogy.

What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass ejection) event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book (and 
series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of event.  Basically, all of the entire electrical grids on the planet are 
irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and currents.  So are cell phone grids, etc.  Computers not connected to the grid or 
protected are not destroyed so cars still work.  Please note that the book was written before the 2012 CME event, it is just a 
conjecture.
    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm/

The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they work together to survive in the new world without the rule of law and 
minimal communications.

My rating:  4 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating:  3.5 out of 5 stars (257 reviews)

Lynn

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#435132

In article <nbqh4f$npb$1@dont-email.me>, lmc@winsim.com says...
> 
> _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron
>     http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp/1468079158/
> 
> Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade paperback format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the other 
> two books in the trilogy.
> 
> What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass ejection) event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book (and 
> series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of event.  Basically, all of the entire electrical grids on the planet are 
> irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and currents.  So are cell phone grids, etc.  Computers not connected to the grid or 
> protected are not destroyed so cars still work.  Please note that the book was written before the 2012 CME event, it is just a 
> conjecture.
>     http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm/
> 
> The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they work together to survive in the new world without the rule of law and 
> minimal communications.
> 
> My rating:  4 out of 5 stars
> Amazon rating:  3.5 out of 5 stars (257 reviews)

After "One Year After", my take on all EMP stories is "throw it at the 
wall on general principle".

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#435139

In article <MPG.314a9e4f9f755d7f989fd2@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <nbqh4f$npb$1@dont-email.me>, lmc@winsim.com says...
> > 
> > _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) 
> > (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron
> >     http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp/1468079158/
> > 
> > Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade paperback 
> > format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the other 
> > two books in the trilogy.
> > 
> > What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass ejection) 
> > event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book (and 
> > series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of event.  Basically, 
> > all of the entire electrical grids on the planet are 
> > irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and currents.  So are cell 
> > phone grids, etc.  Computers not connected to the grid or 
> > protected are not destroyed so cars still work.  Please note that the book 
> > was written before the 2012 CME event, it is just a 
> > conjecture.
> >     http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_supersto
> >     rm/
> > 
> > The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they work together 
> > to survive in the new world without the rule of law and 
> > minimal communications.
> > 
> > My rating:  4 out of 5 stars
> > Amazon rating:  3.5 out of 5 stars (257 reviews)
> 
> After "One Year After", my take on all EMP stories is "throw it at the 
> wall on general principle".

I know I've read (well, played as audiobooks) both One Second After and 
One Year After, but for the life of me, I can't remember a blinkin' 
thing about either of them beyond the "lost the juice" backdrop, and a 
vague "Why did I bother?" feeling. Oh, wait - didn't they take place in 
n fbhgurea fgngr? Znlor bar bs gur Pnebyvanf? Naq abj gung V gel gb 
erpnyy, qvqa'g gur "ureb" snzvyl (jub V pbhyqa'g anzr vs cnvq) svaq 
gurzfryirf va cbffrffvba bs na Rqfry, fb gung gurl jrer cneg bs gur 
sbeghangr srj va gur nern jub unq jbexvat jurryf?

-- 
Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q

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#435141

On 3/9/2016 7:56 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <nbqh4f$npb$1@dont-email.me>, lmc@winsim.com says...
>>
>> _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron
>>      http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp/1468079158/
>>
>> Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade paperback format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the other
>> two books in the trilogy.
>>
>> What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass ejection) event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book (and
>> series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of event.  Basically, all of the entire electrical grids on the planet are
>> irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and currents.  So are cell phone grids, etc.  Computers not connected to the grid or
>> protected are not destroyed so cars still work.  Please note that the book was written before the 2012 CME event, it is just a
>> conjecture.
>>      http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm/
>>
>> The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they work together to survive in the new world without the rule of law and
>> minimal communications.
>>
>> My rating:  4 out of 5 stars
>> Amazon rating:  3.5 out of 5 stars (257 reviews)
>
> After "One Year After", my take on all EMP stories is "throw it at the
> wall on general principle".

I have yet to read _One Year After_.  Bad, I take it?
    http://www.amazon.com/One-Year-After-A-Novel/dp/0765376709

62% of the 872 reviewers on Amazon gave it 5 stars.  Of course, there were 5,754 reviewers for its predecessor, _One Second After_.

Lynn

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#435322

On 2016-03-10, Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> wrote:
> On 3/9/2016 7:56 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> In article <nbqh4f$npb$1@dont-email.me>, lmc@winsim.com says...
>>>
>>> _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron
>>>      http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp/1468079158/
>>>
>>> Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade paperback format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the other
>>> two books in the trilogy.
>>>
>>> What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass ejection) event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book (and
>>> series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of event.  Basically, all of the entire electrical grids on the planet are
>>> irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and currents.  So are cell phone grids, etc.  Computers not connected to the grid or
>>> protected are not destroyed so cars still work.  Please note that the book was written before the 2012 CME event, it is just a
>>> conjecture.
>>>      http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm/
>>>
>>> The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they work together to survive in the new world without the rule of law and
>>> minimal communications.

Why would there not be law? Prior to 1934, Tennessee pretty much didn't 
have electricity outside of Nashville and Memphis. That's a good two
centuries of European settlement with law and without electricity.

And cars are a lot faster than horses, and bicycles are a lot more useful
on paved roads than on dirt or gravel roads, so communications will, if
anything, be more efficient than 1730-1910.

Oh, and the wires are still up for telephones. 5ESS switches are generally
well protected against overvoltage, but even if they have to go back to
Strowger switches (1891) they can get those up and running, or code-key
telegraph services before that.

Yeah, intercity telegraph and in-city bicycle messengers. There's a
business opportunity there.

Not to mention light aircraft (minimal or no electronics) and lots of
commercial aircraft (hardened against lightning strikes).

Disastrous to the web economy? Survival and continuity of government? Not
so badly off.

-dsr-

-dsr-

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#435347

On 3/11/2016 10:58 AM, -dsr- wrote:
> On 2016-03-10, Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> wrote:
>> On 3/9/2016 7:56 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> In article <nbqh4f$npb$1@dont-email.me>, lmc@winsim.com says...
>>>>
>>>> _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron
>>>>       http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp/1468079158/
>>>>
>>>> Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade paperback format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the other
>>>> two books in the trilogy.
>>>>
>>>> What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass ejection) event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book (and
>>>> series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of event.  Basically, all of the entire electrical grids on the planet are
>>>> irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and currents.  So are cell phone grids, etc.  Computers not connected to the grid or
>>>> protected are not destroyed so cars still work.  Please note that the book was written before the 2012 CME event, it is just a
>>>> conjecture.
>>>>       http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm/
>>>>
>>>> The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they work together to survive in the new world without the rule of law and
>>>> minimal communications.
>
> Why would there not be law? Prior to 1934, Tennessee pretty much didn't
> have electricity outside of Nashville and Memphis. That's a good two
> centuries of European settlement with law and without electricity.
>
> And cars are a lot faster than horses, and bicycles are a lot more useful
> on paved roads than on dirt or gravel roads, so communications will, if
> anything, be more efficient than 1730-1910.
>
> Oh, and the wires are still up for telephones. 5ESS switches are generally
> well protected against overvoltage, but even if they have to go back to
> Strowger switches (1891) they can get those up and running, or code-key
> telegraph services before that.
>
> Yeah, intercity telegraph and in-city bicycle messengers. There's a
> business opportunity there.
>
> Not to mention light aircraft (minimal or no electronics) and lots of
> commercial aircraft (hardened against lightning strikes).
>
> Disastrous to the web economy? Survival and continuity of government? Not
> so badly off.
>
> -dsr-

No power when all of the backup generators run out of fuel in a week to a month.  And very few backup generators have more than a 
week of fuel.

Getting the three electric grids back up in the USA will require many years, maybe a couple of decades.  No ten+ million dollar 
spares ready for all the fried transformers, motors, and generators.  After all, it has taken 100 years to build the three electric 
grids in the USA.

Lynn

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#435351

On 3/11/16 8:58 AM, -dsr- wrote:

> Why would there not be law?

Because the author is a gun nut and needs roving gangs of evil doers so
his gun nut hero characters can express their fantasies by wiping out 
the miscreants.

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#435352

On 3/11/2016 3:19 PM, lal_truckee wrote:
> On 3/11/16 8:58 AM, -dsr- wrote:
>
>> Why would there not be law?
>
> Because the author is a gun nut and needs roving gangs of evil doers so
> his gun nut hero characters can express their fantasies by wiping out the miscreants.

+ 0.5

Lynn

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#435354

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:19:47 PM UTC-5, lal_truckee wrote:
> On 3/11/16 8:58 AM, -dsr- wrote:
> 
> > Why would there not be law?
> 
> Because the author is a gun nut and needs roving gangs of evil doers so
> his gun nut hero characters can express their fantasies by wiping out 
> the miscreants.

As a firearms hobbyist, I've see this. There are some 'preppers' out there 
who secretly yearn for TEOTWAWKI so they can get out and be the hero they 
know they'd be if only their wives would let them.

In my experience, the overwhelming majority of US gunowners in this situation 
would get in touch with the local PD to see if and how they can help maintain 
public safety.

pt

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#435358

On 3/11/2016 1:42 PM, Peter Trei wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:19:47 PM UTC-5, lal_truckee wrote:
>> On 3/11/16 8:58 AM, -dsr- wrote:
>>
>>> Why would there not be law?
>>
>> Because the author is a gun nut and needs roving gangs of evil doers so
>> his gun nut hero characters can express their fantasies by wiping out
>> the miscreants.
>
> As a firearms hobbyist, I've see this. There are some 'preppers' out there
> who secretly yearn for TEOTWAWKI so they can get out and be the hero they
> know they'd be if only their wives would let them.
>
> In my experience, the overwhelming majority of US gunowners in this situation
> would get in touch with the local PD to see if and how they can help maintain
> public safety.
>
One suspects that many of the "preppers" automatically see the police as 
EVIL because -they- have guns.  (Maybe with a "too" at the end of that, 
maybe not.)


-- 
Privacy IS Security

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#435366

On 3/11/2016 3:19 PM, lal_truckee wrote:
> On 3/11/16 8:58 AM, -dsr- wrote:
>
>> Why would there not be law?
>
> Because the author is a gun nut and needs roving gangs of evil doers so
> his gun nut hero characters can express their fantasies by wiping out the miscreants.

BTW, the book is about a National Guard unit in the USA.

Lynn

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#435367

Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> wrote in
news:nbvjiu$f1p$1@dont-email.me: 

> On 3/11/2016 3:19 PM, lal_truckee wrote:
>> On 3/11/16 8:58 AM, -dsr- wrote:
>>
>>> Why would there not be law?
>>
>> Because the author is a gun nut and needs roving gangs of evil
>> doers so his gun nut hero characters can express their
>> fantasies by wiping out the miscreants. 
> 
> BTW, the book is about a National Guard unit in the USA.
> 
Or at least about the author's fantasies about what a National Guard 
unit should be.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#435370

-dsr- <dsr-usenet@randomstring.org> wrote:
> On 2016-03-10, Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> wrote:
>> On 3/9/2016 7:56 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> In article <nbqh4f$npb$1@dont-email.me>, lmc@winsim.com says...
>>>>
>>>> _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron
>>>>      http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp/1468079158/
>>>>
>>>> Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade
>>>> paperback format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the other
>>>> two books in the trilogy.
>>>>
>>>> What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass
>>>> ejection) event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book (and
>>>> series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of event.
>>>> Basically, all of the entire electrical grids on the planet are
>>>> irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and currents.  So are
>>>> cell phone grids, etc.  Computers not connected to the grid or
>>>> protected are not destroyed so cars still work.  Please note that
>>>> the book was written before the 2012 CME event, it is just a
>>>> conjecture.
>>>>      http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm/
>>>>
>>>> The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they work
>>>> together to survive in the new world without the rule of law and
>>>> minimal communications.
>
> Why would there not be law?

For the same reason that there was no law in New Orleans after Hurricane
Katrina?

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

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#435368

"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.314a9e4f9f755d7f989fd2@news.eternal-september.org: 

> In article <nbqh4f$npb$1@dont-email.me>, lmc@winsim.com says...
>> 
>> _Dark Grid: When The Lights Go Out...Permanently._ (The Dark
>> Grid Series) (Volume 1) by David C. Waldron 
>>     http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-Lights-Permanently-Series/dp
>>     /1468079158/ 
>> 
>> Book number one of a three book series.  I purchased the trade
>> paperback format in POD (print on demand).  I have ordered the
>> other two books in the trilogy.
>> 
>> What would have happened to the world if the CME (coronal mass
>> ejection) event of 2012 had not missed the planet?  This book
>> (and series) is a conjecture into the effects of that type of
>> event.  Basically, all of the entire electrical grids on the
>> planet are irretrievably destroyed due to high voltages and
>> currents.  So are cell phone grids, etc.  Computers not
>> connected to the grid or protected are not destroyed so cars
>> still work.  Please note that the book was written before the
>> 2012 CME event, it is just a conjecture.
>>     http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23
>>     jul_superstorm/ 
>> 
>> The book follows a small group of people in Tennessee as they
>> work together to survive in the new world without the rule of
>> law and minimal communications.
>> 
>> My rating:  4 out of 5 stars
>> Amazon rating:  3.5 out of 5 stars (257 reviews)
> 
> After "One Year After", my take on all EMP stories is "throw it
> at the wall on general principle".
> 
You actually had to read one to arrive at that conclusion? Or have 
you never met _anyone_ who works in the industry?

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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