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Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause?

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From djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause?
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Date 2016-10-05 00:00 +0000
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In article <d681535c-7379-4ca3-9e34-8c7904a8550b@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie  <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, 4 October 2016 14:00:03 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt  wrote:
>> Then I got a different job and had to learn to use a Mac, and
>> I've already discussed how I wanted to have so many hotkeys that
>> I never had to use the mouse, and didn't get my wish.
>
>Did I misread this as "so many hotkeys that I never
>had to leave the house" last time?

Dunno, I wasn't reading over your shoulder.
>
>There are a lot of key combinations there...

Yes, there are, but there were NOT enough to enable me never to
use the mouse.  I called Apple (even in those days when they
still had long distance, Cupertino was a local call) and got a
help-desker who started explaining to me about the hotkeys they
had, and I said, "Yes, but what I want is to find a way NEVER to
have to use the mouse at all."

And he said, in honest bewilderment, "But why would anyone never
want to use the mouse??"

Different worlds.

(Because I want to keep my fingers on the keyboard, silly
Applehead.)

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Madawc Williams <madawcnow@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 00:56 -0700
  Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-03 13:17 +0000
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 07:21 -0700
      Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 11:37 -0600
        Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 11:40 -0600
  Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 11:37 -0700
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-03 13:13 -0700
      Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-03 20:50 +0000
        Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:52 -0700
          Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 17:18 -0700
            Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-04 00:54 +0000
            Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 05:09 -0400
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-04 12:45 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-04 12:32 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 00:00 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 21:17 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 02:09 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 22:55 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-04 20:21 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 23:39 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 05:23 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 05:29 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 12:44 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 11:06 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 14:52 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-12 11:42 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:44 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-05 08:30 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 15:48 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 11:12 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-10-05 10:14 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-05 15:18 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-05 15:30 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-10-06 08:46 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-06 09:37 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-06 16:31 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-08 14:15 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 08:36 +0200
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:50 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:50 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-06 03:27 +0000
          Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-04 00:51 +0000
      Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 16:57 -0700
        Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 12:40 -0500
          Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 21:27 -0700
            Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 03:04 -0400
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 01:19 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-05 15:04 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:55 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-05 22:58 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 13:08 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2016-10-05 10:13 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 14:40 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 18:59 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 15:30 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-05 23:07 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:12 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-06 02:33 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:45 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-06 02:03 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 06:36 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-06 19:36 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-10-09 22:51 +0100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:43 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:44 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 23:23 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-07 14:33 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 08:03 -0500
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:53 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:49 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 23:25 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-06 18:08 +1100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-07 05:41 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:01 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-07 20:03 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-08 03:28 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-07 18:33 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-28 00:10 +1100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 21:13 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-07 04:55 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-07 14:32 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-10-09 23:06 +0100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-09 21:34 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-10-10 09:15 +0100
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-10-05 10:21 -0400
  Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? peterwezeman@hotmail.com - 2016-10-03 20:51 -0700
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-04 04:19 +0000
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-04 07:40 -0700

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