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| From | Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: This morning's crap idea. |
| Date | 2015-08-20 19:09 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20150820b@crcomp.net> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <ntCIIr.F3x@kithrup.com> <20150819b@crcomp.net> <ntDvI5.168s@kithrup.com> <mr4m4l$m62$1@dont-email.me> <55722650-be81-4583-9145-dce7f70400a7@googlegroups.com> |
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 9:55:11 AM UTC-4, William Vetter wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> > In article <20150819b@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>> >>> In article <mr2f0d$f46$1@dont-email.me>,
>> >>> William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> >>>>> In article <mr2cek$4kn$1@dont-email.me>,
>> >>>>> William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Has there ever been a story published where a lousy SF author
>> >>>>>> time-travels back to the Golden Age to throw his trunk stories over the
>> >>>>>> transom and into a 1930's slushpile?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There's something like it, a story by Harry Turtledove, let me
>> >>>>> look up the title.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The title is "Hindsight," and it's collected in _Kaleidoscope_.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ah, see, I wake up with an idea that I think is so crappy, I might as
>> >>>> well post it on usenet; and then you're telling me some guy got a
>> >>>> publication out of it. Make my day, why don't cha.
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, you weren't very far off. It's merely that the writer was
>> >>> not lousy, and, face it, in the Golden Age really lousy writing
>> >>> would probably not get bought either.
>> >>>
>> >>> At one point the 1950s writer says, "It's an old theme, go back
>> >>> in time and make a fortune..." and the time-traveler says, "A
>> >>> fortune? At three cents a word?"
>> >>>
>> >>> The nice thing about "Hindsight" is that Turtledove remembers
>> >>> 1950s California in detail, as I do, and put a lot of little
>> >>> details in and got them right.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you sharing Dorothy.
>> >>
>> >> "Hindsight" also appears under the pseudonym Eric G Iverson in Analog
>> >> Science Fiction/Science Fact, Mid-December 1984. "Hindsight" reminds me
>> >> of "Bob Dylan, Troy Jonson, and the Speed Queen" by F Paul Wilson.
>> >>
>> >> The travelers in both stories take rock music records and turntables
>> >> back with them in time. And both travelers plagiarize future works.
>> >> "Hindsight" has literature stolen while "Bob Dylan" has music stolen.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The motives of the travelers also differ. "Hindsight" wants to save the
>> >> world, while "Bob Dylan" wants to be a rock star.
>
> Does "Bob Dylan" have his own music stolen, or the stuff he put his name
> on that was recycled folk tunes [For example: Words of "With God On Our
> Side" but tune from the folk ballad "The Merry month Of May" by way
> of Dominic Behan's "The Patriot Game." Or the tune of "Nottamun Town"]
> is used for "Masters of War.]
The wannabe rock star hopes to arrange things so that Dylan picks him
over the Byrds for the upcoming debut cover of "Mr Tamborine Man." To
suitably impress Dylan the wannabe plays "originals" such as "Jumping
Jack Flash," "Summer in the City," "Taxman," "Bad Moon Rising," "Rikki
Don't Lose That Number," "Statesboro Blues," "American Tune," "Won't Get
Fooled Again," "Life During Wartime," and so on at a local club until a
suitably impressed Dylan shows up to catch wannabe's act. And that's
when the fun begins. :)
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,-. There was a young lady named Bright
\_/ Whose speed was far faster than light;
{|||)< Don Kuenz KB7RPU She set out one day
/ \ In a relative way
`-' And returned on the previous night.
What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say. - Emerson.
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